Remind me again how many threads @TigerRagRob has started that don't have to do with Trans issues? Dude, you need help.
The global leftist war against women
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Wait we are comparing one community who was not part of mass slavery, jim crow laws, mass segregation and red lining but did start to immigrate to the US after these issues were resolved?
What a long winded response that everyone sees as saying "pull yourself up by your bootstraps".
You said Kamala's politics are a "threat to America as we know." Your exact words. As I pointed out, America is always becoming different from what previous generations knew. That's the natural evolution of a free society. In 1864 you'd have been arguing that all these changes people want are a threat to the America as know. Ditto 1821, 1932, or 1958.
The only countries that stay the same are not great on human rights, like China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, etc. So, what is threatened? What are you trying to preserve, or conserve, as it were?
The fact that "where you end up" should be based on ability, talent, merit, achievement, etc within the bounds of equal opportunity. We should not shift to a state-supported model (ie more entitlements, more government programs, which democrats support), a model that somehow penalizes or restricts achievement (everyone should end up in the same place...), etc.
We can continue to grow as a country while maintaining core principles like personal responsibility, individual achievement, unlimited possibility and the opportunity to pursue the American Dream (not a guarantee of realizing it).
I don't disagree with that. But he last part is the key. The social situation. In large part, it is the black community that is damaging the black community. There needs to be encouragement within the community for people to do better. To tell them they can do better.
Also, it's hard to argue there are no successful black people. I don't think I have ever been in a town where there are no successful, educated black people. There are examples no matter where you live. More in some areas, for sure. How many kids go through school and never see a black teacher/guidance counselor/administrator? Particularly schools with large minority populations. Would more examples help? Sure it would, but to say they have no examples or reason to believe it is possible is disingenuous.
Care to address the difference between the black and hispanic communities? Do you think the hispanic community has some generational wealth/privilege advantage? If so, what is it? If not, why the disparate outcomes?
Okay, appreciate you answering honestly. But you know that's not possible, right? It is not possible to stay stuck in any particular time period if a free society. It can't be done.
Well, the long held argument is that white people have built in advantages due to the opportunities their ancestors received that black ancestors did not even if both technically have the same opportunity today since there are no longer legal limitations based on being black like jim crowe, mass segregation, etc. You can expand the argument to current racism if you like. I don't know any white nationalist, but I would assume that thinking the white race is the superior race does not include a love of hispanics.
My point being that people in those groups now. particularly the last few generations, have similar disadvantaged starting points(not being white) and disparate outcomes. Tell me what inherent advantages you think the hispanic community has NOW over the black community? How is their starting point more advantageous?
Similar to the bondage of slavery? What are some of the similarities?
All of this, and any like ethos, is reverse engineered to sound like something other than what it really is.
One difference is that the Hispanics came here by choice, in most situations to avoid Death at home. Africans.....
And my middle class....for lack of better classification......relatives in England and Germany are quite happy with their socio economic lives.
Sure tell her that, or better yet just keep telling yourself that. I guess she was crying because she's happy in your mind?
Holocaust victims suffered. Ukrainian citizens are suffering right now. Suffering traumatizes people, often for life
She had something unfair happen to her and she's rightly upset over it. She'll be fine. Trust me, y'all don't need to hold a prayer circle over it.
I am talking about black and hispanic people that are alive. Is that not what we were talking about? Opportunities for people that are, you know, alive right now? Not sure why I have to spell it out, but what advantages do hispanic people have over black people that are currently living?
my side lives it also moron. Do you think we live on a different planet? Your side doesnt acknowledge that they are the cause of it all. My side ended slavery, my side pushed the civil rights act. My side isnt Republican, its conservative. Im a Reagan Democrat. From the 60's thru the 90's there was a large number of conservative Democrats. They got push out of the Democrat Party after the 1994 election and into the Republican party. Thats when the big switch really happen. Now its the Republicans that are the party of the blue collar and the Democrats the party of the wealthy. The fact you acknowledge something and do nothing to fix what you did is even a bigger crime...But hey you still can just keep projecting like always. After all you only acknowledge the struggle once every 4 years...
I have specifically said people living NOW. Either you can't read or are being intentionally obtuse to avoid answering the question.
No just pointing out your hatred of women...Also why do you hate trans people so much? Every time somebody talks about a pedo story you claim its trans...
You can't separate the past from the present in a vacuum. I'm ignoring it because it's just as racist drivel the 4th time you said it as it was the first time.
Like I said, when you know you are full of it and have no logical argument, you just resort to name calling bc that's all you have. I expect nothing less from someone like you.
Tell me next that the civil war was only about states rights.
So this was a pedo story or a trans story? Seems you don't know the difference as you have demonstrated frequently.
Their families and entire history is dictated by the way they got here. To act as if Slavery and then Jim Crow doesn't have lasting impact is really naive.
Who would be surprised to learn that this boxer in question never failed a "gender test" at all. She just tested positive for too much testosterone at the previous event, and magas took that to mean she's trans.
These posters clearly aren't old enough to remember the Olympics when East German women competed.
These posters clearly aren't old enough to remember the Olympics when East German women competed.
I did. Jim Crow laws. Redlining. The practice of redlining has had massive impact on African Americans by denying them the chance to own a home. Hone ownership is the single best way to get a family out of poverty
That was not the discussion we were having. Slavery unquestionably played a huge role in the civil war.
So do you want to acknowledge at all that this boxer is actually a cisfemale from birth? Or are you just going to keep being horrible in every conceivable.
Alright, that was pretty vitriolic. I'm not perfect.
Jim crowe laws no longer exist. How is this a disadvantage compared to the hispanic community? Do they both not have the same opportunity for home ownership now? Did the hispanic community somehow benefit from jim crowe laws?
Read the article/study I linked. Are you just willfully trying to ignore facts?
Also, why are you comparing those two communities? Why not Asian Americans, Why not Indian Americans?
Reading deeper into this example, this is really hard. What do you do when the person is intersex, having the DNA and Chromosomes of both male and female? The articles I've read say that she has always lived and identified as a female. She has also always completed as a female. Also seems like the other fighter was scared. Got hit once and quit?
Tough to say what the right thing is. Definitely not trans though.
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All that article does is address differences from WHITE people. Not for nothing, many of the areas included in the study probably had a significant % of hispanic population as well. Which further supports my assertion.
We could easily use other communities like Asian communities, but he outcomes would be even more disparate. I chose the hispanic community bc the majority of that community came here with nothing and would have no advantage of possible generation favoritism/wealth that white people have. Yet they still seem to do vastly better despite not having any built in advantage over the black community that the white community enjoys.
Wokeness / leftwing liberal's have now pushed biological women back as 2nd class.
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The Hispanic community didn't face hundreds of years of discrimination and willful and intentional denial of human rights,education, or economic chances. Each of these communities have their own challenges, but to ignore the long lasting impact of slavery and Jim Crow is intellectually lazy.
You seem to keep coming back to "lazy" and similar terms, why and how do you think that happened? If you know that no matter what you do or how hard you work, you will never own a house,never go to college, never have equal chances, that will.kess with your motivation and trust.
Weird take in a case about a biological women. She is intersex and has both chromosomes. This isn't some choice she made.
