This has to STOP

[PawsFan_]

“How do WE turn their barrels against us?”
Great question, I don’t have enough time to type an answer. If you’re so inclined you can look up Scott Horton, he has several great books, articles and even a YouTube channel addressing the subject.

This is part 1 of a 3 part series done by Christian’s addressing the Muslim religion. A friend of mine turned me on to it and it revealed I had a lot of false understanding about the religion and how some sects became radicalized.

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Dude. I have been an instructor on Muslim culture and Radical Ideologies for the US Military. I can assure you, the US has done nothing to "turn their barrels against us" except by our support of Israel.

The Middle East has been my job since 2013. Two years of which I lived in Qatar.

 

[dpic73]

I haven't seen this video. Who is targeting them? Can you say without a shadow of a doubt is was IDF forces? Do you see an IDF soldier pulling the trigger. If not, it's not an IDF soldier. Hamas is the same organization that puts command and control facilities and weapons supply depots under hospitals, schools, mosques and family apartment buildings. They wage an intense IO campaign in an attempt to enrage the Muslim world against Israel.

Don't be so gullible.

If you haven't watched the video, do that first. I understand the level of barbarity that Hamas is capable of but it still stretches the imagination that they'd want to target their future in order to make Israel look bad. But then again, you probably think the FBI staged the insurrection to make Trump look bad.

Don't be so gullible.

 

[Budgripe86]

Dude. I have been an instructor on Muslim culture and Radical Ideologies for the US Military. I can assure you, the US has done nothing to "turn their barrels against us" except by our support of Israel.

The Middle East has been my job since 2013. Two years of which I lived in Qatar.

First of all, if you’re military or former military I do appreciate everything you’ve done/do.

Secondly, there’s no point in us continuing the convo if you’re not going to seriously consider the info I’ve offered for your review. Especially the info from Scott Horton among others who in detail, with receipts, document the history of radical Islam as it pertains to targeting the US and it’s Allies.

Do you see an IDF soldier pulling the trigger. If not, it's not an IDF soldier.

I’m sure you realize this is illogical. Did you see a Hamas radical pull the trigger?

 

[Budgripe86]

If you haven't watched the video, do that first. I understand the level of barbarity that Hamas is capable of but it still stretches the imagination that they'd want to target their future in order to make Israel look bad. But then again, you probably think the FBI staged the insurrection to make Trump look bad.

Don't be so gullible.

YouTube won’t let me share it, probably because it shows violence, but look up on the Aljazeera YouTube channel, “War on Gaza: Footage shows summary executions of Palestinians by Israeli soldiers”

Give me your opinion on what happened there please sir.

Edit- replied to wrong poster @PawsFan_

 

[TigerPrice03]

I completely understand what you’re saying, this is a terribly complicated situation.

To be clear- I am NOT antisemitic. I am anti- innocent civilians and children being purposefully targeted, especially by a nation we prop up.

If I were alive in the 1940’s I hope I’d being saying the same things about our bombing campaigns in Europe and the Pacific.

Let’s be clear there’s a huge difference between accidental civilian casualties (War is Hell) and purposefully targeting civilians. (War Crimes)

There are also those who claim that these stories and pictures are Hamas propaganda to give Israel a black eye. (This is the current belief of many evangelicals). Truly frightening.

So since you are against innocent civilians being targeted how do you feel about the innocent civilians being held hostage still or the ones killed by Hamas on October 7? What exactly do you propose Isreal do about it? Just leave there people there? Hamas isn't releasing those people until Israel makes them.

To put it in personal terms. Someone kidnaps my kid. There isn't a person on this planet I wouldn't kill to get them back.

The first priority of a parent is to protect their children. The first priority of a government is to protect its citizens.

 

[Budgripe86]

So since you are against innocent civilians being targeted how do you feel about the innocent civilians being held hostage still or the ones killed by Hamas on October 7? What exactly do you propose Isreal do about it? Just leave there people there? Hamas isn't releasing those people until Israel makes them.

To put it in personal terms. Someone kidnaps my kid. There isn't a person on this planet I wouldn't kill to get them back.

The first priority of a parent is to protect their children. The first priority of a government is to protect its citizens.

Is everyone on this board a troll?
Read my previous comments on how I feel about Hamas killing innocent Israeli’s and their children.

As to how Israel should get there hostages back, I’m not sure, I’m not a military tactics expert.

To put it in personal terms. Someone kidnaps my kid. There isn't a person on this planet I wouldn't kill to get them back.

So you’d kill little kids to get your kids back?

Please, educate me on how killing innocent Palestinian children will help bring back the hostages.

The first priority of a parent is to protect their children. The first priority of a government is to protect its citizens.

Yes, and the Israeli government failed miserably on Oct 7!! What’s the point? Kill innocent children to make atonement?

 

[CU Alumnus]

I’m sure you realize this is illogical. Did you see a Hamas radical pull the trigger?

An IDF soldier pulling that trigger serves no tactical or strategic purpose.

A Hamas soldier doing it does.

Bear that in mind.

So you’d kill little kids to get your kids back?

If I had to. I wouldn’t enjoy it. But I’d do it.