Tim Scott - Presidential Candidate

[scotchtiger]

If fiscall conservatism is what you care about, the republicans have consistently voted to sky rocket our debt with tax cuts and NO spending cuts while they are in power. They keep playing the game of cutting taxes while they are in power and boycotting debt ceiling raises when dems are in power.... WHY DO GOP VOTERS GO ALONG WITH THIS OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?

Well for me, because the alternative is worse. I’ve been pretty vocal about my dissatisfaction with the GOP.

 

[scotchtiger]

Also true about how spoiled we are. Travel really opened my eyes up to how rich we are in comparison.

This is true. I work for a company founded in Europe and talk to colleagues there all the time. We’re incredibly blessed to be in the US and have what we have. To live the lifestyles we live.

Which begs the question, why do we want to be more like them?

 

[scotchtiger]

Sure, that’s the “best” way as it is right now, but is that the “best” was we, as a society, can protect workers?

I’ve seen, and I’m sure you’ve seen, good hardworking people who bring value let go because the company has decided to cut costs. And typically who they decide to let go feels rather arbitrary, rarely based on performance and instead based on whatever cost cutting metric the company has decided on. Those people lost their salary, their health insurance all in an instant and it wasn’t because they weren’t valuable.

We give so much power over our lives away to the companies that employ us. Socialized healthcare reclaims some of that power.

I think that your response here is pretty typical of someone who has had financial success and is in a position to say “well just work harder” when the reality on the ground for a lot of people isn’t that their jobs are particularly protected just by “adding value.” I myself have been searching for a higher paying job and have largely been unable to even secure interviews and I’ve got 9 years of sales management experience with a successful track record and an MBA.

The “just work harder” model simply isn’t the reality in much of America anymore.

I just don’t agree with the principle. We live in the USA. We have a higher average income than everyone in Europe other than Switzerland and Luxembourg. We have tons of entitlement benefits already that provide safety nets. Life is great here.

If you are laid off arbitrarily, but are good at what you do, it’s not hard to find another job. My previous company has gone through multiple rounds of layoffs over the last few years. Almost all of the high quality associates ended up in a better position than they were in before.

I understand your position, but you should also understand what a normal income is for someone in many European countries. I work a lot with people in Portugal. Their average salary is $25K vs. $60K in the US. They cap out wayyy earlier too, so the countless opportunities to earn 6 figures+ here just don’t exist there.

I’m sure you want to earn more. Everyone does. But it’s not the government’s job to make that happen. Or to “free” you from your employer.

I agree my perspective may be jaded. But I also think yours is as well. You have it GREAT in the US relative to other places. Let’s not F it up by mimicking less successful countries.

 

[dbjork6317]

I just don’t agree with the principle. We live in the USA. We have a higher average income than everyone in Europe other than Switzerland and Luxembourg. We have tons of entitlement benefits already that provide safety nets. Life is great here.

If you are laid off arbitrarily, but are good at what you do, it’s not hard to find another job. My previous company has gone through multiple rounds of layoffs over the last few years. Almost all of the high quality associates ended up in a better position than they were in before.

I understand your position, but you should also understand what a normal income is for someone in many European countries. I work a lot with people in Portugal. Their average salary is $25K vs. $60K in the US. They cap out wayyy earlier too, so the countless opportunities to earn 6 figures+ here just don’t exist there.

I’m sure you want to earn more. Everyone does. But it’s not the government’s job to make that happen. Or to “free” you from your employer.

I agree my perspective may be jaded. But I also think yours is as well. You have it GREAT in the US relative to other places. Let’s not F it up by mimicking less successful countries.

And cost of living is less in Portugal than in the US. So it’s all relative, no? I don’t put much stock into the idea that because things are good here doesn’t mean that things can’t get better or that other countries don’t have good ideas that we can utilize. Because the truth is it’s great for you in the US, it’s great for me in the US, it’s not great for everyone in the US.

 

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[yoshi121374]

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You shared this, apparently not understanding how insulting,demeaning,and racist this is.

 

[TigerGrowls]

You shared this, apparently not understanding how insulting,demeaning,and racist this is.

I am not worried about your warped sense of feelings Shirley.

 

[adgjunior]

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Hopefully, Tim Scott learned some lessons from Mike Pence. You HAVE to sell your soul to Donald Trump, which means eventually you will be put in the crosshairs of doing what is right (maybe even Constitutional) versus loyalty to Trump. Not to mention that you cannot run a campaign on being a positive change, then saddle up with the man who re-wrote the rules on the politics you are trying to put behind us.

 

[clemsontiger02]

Trump said he's 'just going to say nice things' about fellow presidential candidate Tim Scott: report

Trump has had a longstanding relationship with Scott and always spoke favorably of the senator when he was in the White House.

www.businessinsider.com