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What do you all think of all these objects flying over/near the US?

I tried to buy a balloon for someone at the hospital yesterday. The gift shop was out of helium. I bet the Chinese used it all up. They being aggravatin’.
 
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Alright, back on topic. The first missile actually missed. And we dont know what happened to it.

The object was too small for bullets. To smalll for accurately hitting with a radar tracked missile as well. We simply tried again and got a hit.

This is some bizarre stuff all the way around.


Guess china and everything now knows that if they create really small drones, they’re all set to face off against us.
 
Valley, if you're right and @areeves is wrong.......does it really matter?

But, If you're wrong and @areeves is right........
I don't know the bible like @areeves , but it seems pretty simple to me. Make sure Jesus Christ is your savior. And if all hell breaks loose, don't get the chip. You may be killed, but you will go to heaven. If you get the chip you won't go to heaven.

I may or may not believe everything he says, but it is still pretty simple. All you have to do right now is accept Jesus Christ as your savior. If he's wrong about the rest, then it doesn't matter. If all hell does break out then you know what to do.
 
I don't know the bible like @areeves , but it seems pretty simple to me. Make sure Jesus Christ is your savior. And if all hell breaks loose, don't get the chip. You may be killed, but you will go to heaven. If you get the chip you won't go to heaven.

I may or may not believe everything he says, but it is still pretty simple. All you have to do right now is accept Jesus Christ as your savior. If he's wrong about the rest, then it doesn't matter. If all hell does break out then you know what to do.
Well said Brother! Believe me, everything I’ve shared will come to pass. What I share comes from the Bible & GOD putting credible people with first hand knowledge. Like the Special Ops guy who told me about the shuttle full of enriched plutonium, which was launched on December 13th, 2012. He specializes in Hand to Hand Combat, Counter Terrorism & Demolition. He confirmed 9/11 was an inside job. He said, “Buildings don’t fall straight down unless they’re imploded, especially buildings as tall as the towers. He also confirmed the dump trucks picking up the steel 24/7 was headed to China on a barge. The barge conveniently sunk before reaching China. This was done because an independent study would have revealed the residue on the steel. Also, Marvin Bush, George Bush’s brother was in charge of all three buildings. The third building that fell was Building 7, which fell 7 hours after the towers fell. The guy who owned the 47 story structure took out a 7 Billion dollar insurance policy on Building 7, two days before 9/11. The plane that allegedly crashed in the field in PA was Shot down. He said, “If the plane had crashed, the wreckage would have been 1/4 of a mile. Not 5 miles. He also said, “There were only small fragments of the plane left.” Before our conversation ended, I asked him, “I work with a guy @ our car dealership who was Special Ops & ran software projects for the CIA, can you give me 5 key words or phrases that he would recognize? He rattled off five words & phrases. On Monday, I met with Mike Loesekann @ the dealership, I told him about the guy I met & asked him if he recognized these words or phrases. Mike recognized 3 of them & said the other two were probably missions specific to him. Mike’s background as a Special Ops was helping to get the hostages out of Iran in 79. Going after Noriega & boarding the cruise ship in 85 when 14 Syrian Terrorists boarded the cruise ship, pushed a Jewish guy in a wheelchair overboard. He said, the terrorists mixed in with the passengers & it took him & the other special ops guys 48 hours to separate the passengers from the terrorists They killed 9 of the the 14 Terrorists. The other five surrendered. Mike had a plaque on his wall @ the dealership that had a black spade with a skull in the middle of the ♠️ With the inscription…. “Never Has So Few Been Foul To So Many.”
Mike had a folder full of his Special Ops Camp black & white photos in Vietnam. In many of the pictures, there were dead North Vietnamese. This is just one example of the people GOD put in my life to confirm what’s really going on.
 
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Alright, back on topic. The first missile actually missed. And we dont know what happened to it.

The object was too small for bullets. To smalll for accurately hitting with a radar tracked missile as well. We simply tried again and got a hit.

This is some bizarre stuff all the way around.


Guess china and everything now knows that if they create really small drones, they’re all set to face off against us.
They aren’t too small for bullets, but bullets aren’t effective at bringing them down. They can continue floating for hours or days after being shot. Plus, they’re shooting explosive rounds with an effective range of a couple thousand feet. Staying above stall speed means an f16 or f22 is traveling at a speed that would give them a few seconds at best to fire and avoid any debris. Less of there was some sort of dead man switch capability/payload. A trained fighter pilot and the aircraft itself are worth way more than our cheapest A2A missile.
 
Well said Brother! Believe me, everything I’ve shared will come to pass. What I share comes from the Bible & GOD putting credible people with first hand knowledge. Like the Special Ops guy who told me about the shuttle full of enriched plutonium, which was launched on December 13th, 2012. He specializes in Hand to Hand Combat, Counter Terrorism & Demolition. He confirmed 9/11 was an inside job. He said, “Buildings don’t fall straight down unless they’re imploded, especially buildings as tall as the towers. He also confirmed the dump trucks picking up the steel 24/7 was headed to China on a barge. The barge conveniently sunk before reaching China. This was done because an independent study would have revealed the residue on the steel. Also, Marvin Bush, George Bush’s brother was in charge of all three buildings. The third building that fell was Building 7, which fell 7 hours after the towers fell. The guy who owned the 47 story structure took out a 7 Billion dollar insurance policy on Building 7, two days before 9/11. The plane that allegedly crashed in the field in PA was Shot down. He said, “If the plane had crashed, the wreckage would have been 1/4 of a mile. Not 5 miles. He also said, “There were only small fragments of the plane left.” Before our conversation ended, I asked him, “I work with a guy @ our car dealership who was Special Ops & ran software projects for the CIA, can you give me 5 key words or phrases that he would recognize? He rattled off five words & phrases. On Monday, I met with Mike Loesekann @ the dealership, I told him about the guy I met & asked him if he recognized these words or phrases. Mike recognized 3 of them & said the other two were probably missions specific to him. Mike’s background as a Special Ops was helping to get the hostages out of Iran in 79. Going after Noriega & boarding the cruise ship in 85 when 14 Syrian Terrorists boarded the cruise ship, pushed a Jewish guy in a wheelchair overboard. He said, the terrorists mixed in with the passengers & it took him & the other special ops guys 48 hours to separate the passengers from the terrorists They killed 9 of the the 14 Terrorists. The other five surrendered. Mike had a plaque on his wall @ the dealership that had a black spade with a skull in the middle of the ♠️ With the inscription…. “Never Has So Few Been Foul To So Many.”
Mike had a folder full of his Special Ops Camp black & white photos in Vietnam. In many of the pictures, there were dead North Vietnamese. This is just one example of the people GOD put in my life to confirm what’s really going on.
You’re fvcking insane. You also know what SPECOPS guys don’t do. Talk about anything of value with the insane religious zealot that likes to run his mouth about his operator buddies on the internet.
 
You’re fvcking insane. You also know what SPECOPS guys don’t do. Talk about anything of value with the insane religious zealot that likes to run his mouth about his operator buddies on the internet.
Everything I said is coming right in your face
 
This thread has completely derailed, but I’m going to throw out an idea to combat these balloons. Couldn’t we release our own balloon(s) in the general flight path of one of these balloons? Let’s assume our balloon(s) have some ability to maneuver. Couldn’t our balloons somehow trap or hook the foreign balloon and carry it out into space? I say this partly in jest, but they sell these cheap RC controlled balloons on Amazon that can maneuver pretty well… obviously it would take a lot more engineering than that, but wouldn’t it be plausible? Or just another bad idea?
 
Why would he hate me? Because I’m telling you the Truth. I haven’t fabricated anything I’ve told you. Everything I said is True.
Your inane ranting and personal beliefs don’t make something true. A basis in fact is implicit when you say something is true. Rambling passages from a 2000 year old book based on even older oral histories aren’t truth.
 
It personally pisses me off. The fact that these Jackas*es feel they can send these balloons over America infuriates me. However I’m even more ticked off we’ve allowed them to think they can and how we’ve responded to it.
 
I’ll concede that this is something you probably do know a lot about.
It is, I wouldn’t lie to you or anyone else. My motives are pure in sharing what I’ve shared. I know a lot of what I’ve said is a tough pill to swallow, especially hearing it for the first time. I Appreciate you taking the time to read what I’ve written.
 
They had to adjust our radar scanning in order to pick up these types of vessels. So now since we’ve changed this, they can now attack without being picked up on radar.
 
For anyone with any interest in Area 51, this is a good listen….
Long but very interesting


 
I guess I'm curious as to what they actually accomplish, if in fact they are spy balloons. With satellite technology being what it is, what could they accomplish that these satellites couldn't. Hell I can zoom in on my grill in the back yard with google earth, I imagine that spy satellites have better resolution.
Listening. Jamming?
 
Your inane ranting and personal beliefs don’t make something true. A basis in fact is implicit when you say something is true. Rambling passages from a 2000 year old book based on even older oral histories aren’t truth.
There are Many Bible Prophecies that have already come true such as JESUS’s death on the Cross & the many horrible things the Roman soldiers did to JESUS before HE died on the Cross & GOD raised HIM from the dead.

Israel being recognized by the United Nations as a nation on May 14, 1948. The Prophet Isaiah said, “Can a nation be born in a day.”

Nuclear Weapons…. “This is the plague GOD will send against those who come against Israel, “Their eyes will be consumed in their holes & the tongues in their mouths before their corpse hits the ground.” This is taking about Nuclear War where after a nuclear explosion, it produces heat of 150 million degrees Fahrenheit.
The Jewish people being transported back to Israel from Russia after being scattered abroad. “Men would no longer say Blessed is GOD who brought us up out of Egypt but rather, Blessed Is GOD who brought us up out of the north country (Russia) this happened in the nineties as hundreds of thousands of Jews were brought from Russia back to Israel.

JESUS’s death & resurrection, Israel being recognized by the UN in 1948 & the Jews being transported back to Israel from Russia are just a few of the prophecies that have already been fulfilled.

Twenty-Five percent of the Bible is Bible Prophecy. GOD wants us to know what’s going to happen & the time frame in which it will occur.

I’m sorry if you think I’m ranting, that’s not my intention. I didn’t start talking about Bible Prophecy on here until 2020. I didn’t want to mess with people’s peace because many of the things I share are very troubling. But after Covid-19, GOD put it on my heart to start sharing the Truth with people about what’s already happened, what is happening & why & what’s going to happen. I share what’s going to happen before it happens so when it does happen people will know I’ve been accurate & truthful. Hopefully, they’ll also believe me when I share what to do (Accepting JESUS as Savior & Lord… HE’s The ONLY Way for our souls to be saved so we can spend Eternity in Heaven with HIM.) & what NOT to do…. Receiving The RFID Chip (Mark Of The Beast… Revelation 13, Revelation 14 & Revelation 20:4) & Worshiping The Beast/Antichrist. Participating in either one of these will bring the Judgement of GOD on those who do & when one perishes who have participated in either one of these, will spend ETERNITY in the Lake of Fire. I have a Responsibility & a Obligation to share the Truth with people no matter how much persecution I may receive. If I don’t share the Truth, I’ll be held accountable by GOD as to why I didn’t.

When you have a moment, I encourage you to read Revelation 6 & following. Revelation 14 goes into great detail about why it’s imperative that we’re saved by Trusting in JESUS & why, under No circumstance, do we want to Receive The Mark Of The Beast & or Worship The Beast/Antichrist. Both lead to Eternal Damnation.

We’re LATE in the Game! We’re currently in the Third Seal, Which is Hyper-Inflation. When China invades Taiwan, it will bring about out of control Inflation.

The Next Seal Is The BAD One…. It’s The Rider On The Pale Horse which represents Death. In fact, The Rider’s Name is Death & Hell Follows Behind Him. He’s given authority over 1/4 Of The Earth’s Population, that’s about 2 Billion People. He’s given authority to Kill with The Sword (weapons, Guillotines @ the FEMA Camps) Famines (NWO is buying up farmland globally… food shortages are coming) Pestilence… Covid-19, Aides, The Bird Flu & The Ebola Virus is on deck) Wild Beasts of the Earth (People Will flee into the wilderness to prevent being detained in a FEMA Camp & they will encounter Bears, Mountain Lions, Wolves, coyotes & in Asia, Tigers)

The Fourth & Fifth Seals go together…. The Fifth Seal says, “I saw the souls of those who were killed for their witness for CHRIST (They refused to Worship The Beast/Antichrist)

Unfortunately, we’re NOT far away from this happening. Have you heard about The Great Reset & Re-Education? Where do you think this takes place? At the FEMA Camps!

Now do you have a better understanding why I’m Warning people? I hope you do!
 
Because that’s the only thing liberals have. Country is heading in the wrong direction under current administration but it’s trumps fault. Come on man! It’s the truth! I’m not not lying!

Joe Biden is a train

His admin is a wreck.

I can't believe half the country voted for this guy.

I don't think they did.

A few generations from now, they will go back and find out that Joe was not elected but placed in power.
 
Astute observation and good question (I hate how condescending that sounds. Sorry in advance).

Methinks the real intel gathering is concerned with SIGINT... i.e. sniffing electronic transmissions. That's no bueno...unless we knew all along and we're feeding them crap...also possible.

Bottom line: we don't know and won't know. This could have been the end to a brilliant spy v. spy operation, a demonstration of American impotence, or something in between. I certainly hope it's the first.
SIGINT ...... I like the way you think!

Intellectually, they (China) are too smart and can recognize propaganda and I don't think we are smart enough to "feed them crap" and expect it to actually work. The fact that this "weather balloon" had the ability to loiter the longest over one of our most significant strategic defense sites is pretty coincidental. Couple that with the fact that they have so embedded their spy network right here among us, complete transparency, it would be so simple to confirm expectations with ground surveillance.

Preparation of battle space is a planned phase of warfare and a natural transition between phases.
 
SIGINT ...... I like the way you think!

Intellectually, they (China) are too smart and can recognize propaganda and I don't think we are smart enough to "feed them crap" and expect it to actually work. The fact that this "weather balloon" had the ability to loiter the longest over one of our most significant strategic defense sites is pretty coincidental. Couple that with the fact that they have so embedded their spy network right here among us, complete transparency, it would be so simple to confirm expectations with ground surveillance.

Preparation of battle space is a planned phase of warfare and a natural transition between phases.
You think that thing was capable of transmitting anything once we knew it was there?
 
No they don’t. China’s Ministry of State Security is a garbage outfit. Not even a top 20 foreign intel agency. Now, yea. They are foreign enemy number one. But, the IP theft thing is overblown. They pay or coerce foreign nationals and citizens living abroad for IP. They might run a few embedded employees of foreign companies. They don’t have spies everywhere. That myth has been perpetuated because of a few high profile instances. Anyone that thinks they have “spies” everywhere doesn’t know what “spies” actually do. The biggest issue with China is their pushing to proliferate proxy fights via other state and non state actors. They are actually pretty successful on that front.
I think the poster was being a bit factious when they wrote "everywhere." I think it's safe to say that they have IO's everywhere "that they need them!"

GPC 2+3 happens to be our current focus but we know that at any given moment of any given day, there are more than 50 countries actively pursuing and using intelligence gathering TTPs against the US.
 
You think that thing was capable of transmitting anything once we knew it was there?
Hard to say. Electronic communications are protected when initiated from within the US regardless as to whether they are US citizen or not. It also could have been that anything coming from the "balloon" wasn't being monitored, countered.

Either way, anything that enters US airspace that wasn't launched from within the US or known friendly should have been taken down immediately upon recognition. I also think it's okay for us to question why that didn't happen.
 
I think the poster was being a bit factious when they wrote "everywhere." I think it's safe to say that they have IO's everywhere "that they need them!"

GPC 2+3 happens to be our current focus but we know that at any given moment of any given day, there are more than 50 countries actively pursuing and using intelligence gathering TTPs against the US.
Not really. The MSS basically leverages citizens abroad in potentially advantageous places by using their families at home as collateral. They don’t have highly placed agents all over the place much less some big network of embedded intel officers.
 
Hard to say. Electronic communications are protected when initiated from within the US regardless as to whether they are US citizen or not. It also could have been that anything coming from the "balloon" wasn't being monitored, countered.

Either way, anything that enters US airspace that wasn't launched from within the US or known friendly should have been taken down immediately upon recognition. I also think it's okay for us to question why that didn't happen.
That thing was not allowed to communicate while in US airspace.
 
Not really. The MSS basically leverages citizens abroad in potentially advantageous places by using their families at home as collateral. They don’t have highly placed agents all over the place much less some big network of embedded intel officers.
Their involvement regardless of level implicates them and unless you have direct knowledge into their TTPs, you're simply speculating. And even if you have some level of access to knowledge on how their methods and technologies are executed, you're still speculating. The only difference is to the degree of which you base your sources. I'm aware of varying indicators that forces me to disagree with you.

So, we'll simply have to agree to disagree on this exchange.
 
That thing was not allowed to communicate while in US airspace.
You know that for a fact?

When you say "not allowed", was that because you personally were not allowing it to communicate?

I'm curious to know what evidence you have that it was "not allowed" to communicate.
 
You know that for a fact?

When you say "not allowed", was that because you personally were not allowing it to communicate?

I'm curious to know what evidence you have that it was "not allowed" to communicate.
Comms are limited for something like that. Would have to be low power omnidirectional antenna. Chinese L-band capacity would be pretty limited in US airspace. Almost certainly used US or UK based satcom operator. We knew how it was transmitting. Plus, we had assets in the air using active measures to monitor and disrupt comms.
 
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Their involvement regardless of level implicates them and unless you have direct knowledge into their TTPs, you're simply speculating. And even if you have some level of access to knowledge on how their methods and technologies are executed, you're still speculating. The only difference is to the degree of which you base your sources. I'm aware of varying indicators that forces me to disagree with you.

So, we'll simply have to agree to disagree on this exchange.
It’s all speculation to some degree. Impossible to prove a negative in this case. But, based on the body of knowledge we do have, historical operations, known capabilities, etc., i am fairly confident in what I stated.
 
It’s all speculation to some degree. Impossible to prove a negative in this case. But, based on the body of knowledge we do have, historical operations, known capabilities, etc., i am fairly confident in what I stated.
Comms are limited for something like that. Would have to be low power omnidirectional antenna. Chinese L-band capacity would be pretty limited in US airspace. Almost certainly used US or UK based satcom operator. We knew how it was transmitting. Plus, we had assets in the air using active measures to monitor and disrupt comms.
It's not impossible to prove and even less difficult given what you stated in your previous post saying that "we knew how it was transmitting." I haven't seen any report(s) that confirms this so if your source is from other channels, let's tread lightly. You indicate that EA was conducted; by who and when was that order given? What air assets were used?

When you say “we” do you mean the US, IC, your org? I’m just curious.
 
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