I don’t get it. Not that we should be allies with Hamas or Iran, but what do they do for us other than drag us into the middle of their “holy” war?
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I don’t get it. Not that we should be allies with Hamas or Iran, but what do they do for us other than drag us into the middle of their “holy” war?
This is just sad.@Superica28 , this is unfortunately the answer, religious crazies who think we need to support Israel to bring about the apocalypse and salvation or that we think we need some whities as allies in the middle east because brown people = bad.
so religion or racism. Take your pick.
jew here too...
This is just sad.
You’re blind right now my friend...that too, is biblical...@Superica28 , this is unfortunately the answer, religious crazies who think we need to support Israel to bring about the apocalypse and salvation or that we think we need some whities as allies in the middle east because brown people = bad.
so religion or racism. Take your pick.
jew here too...
Yikes@Superica28 , this is unfortunately the answer, religious crazies who think we need to support Israel to bring about the apocalypse and salvation or that we think we need some whities as allies in the middle east because brown people = bad.
so religion or racism. Take your pick.
jew here too...
Yeah maybe it has more to do with protection since we helped create the country after the worst genocide in history.Love he thinks he is the enlightened one when he just generalized a whole bunch of different people. Typical racist liberal IMO
Love he thinks he is the enlightened one when he just generalized a whole bunch of different people. Typical racist liberal IMO
UhhhIt’s obviously way more complex than this, but it’s not racist or radically religious, it’s humane.
Yeah saving millions of lives is humane, you read it correctly. One of the posters above said choosing to be allies with Israel is for religious crazies or needing “white allies in the Middle East because brown people = bad.”Uhhh
I was the Special Agent in Charge of then Vice President Biden’s U.S. Secret Service Division while he attended the funeral of Ariel Sharon. Rockets were fired from Gaza (Iron Dome knocked them down) while the burial service was performed at Sharon’s farm/residence. Israel is a our friend and our ally. Some people have absolutely no clue what really goes on in the world. ZERO.
I’m seated directly behind the Vice President. Shin Bet next to me in red tie. Do some research.
Directly behind VP wearing yarmulke. Wake up
You have no clue. None. You are arguing with a man that has been briefed by National Security Advisors in The Situation Room in The White House. It’s amazing to me. Truly amazing.How many people have those rockets killed? How many palestinian children have advanced targeted munitions from the IDF killed?
You should be aware of the concept of proportionality in international law. You think Israel's response here is proportional? Is it ever?
Is it ok that Israelis have to have bomb shelters in their houses in case a rocket lands on their heads? Of course not.
Is it ok for Israel to commit war crimes in response? Of course not.
But the question was why we are still allies with a country that frequently commits war crimes. The answer is racism or religion.
You have no clue. None. You are arguing with a man that has been briefed by National Security Advisors in The Situation Room in The White House. It’s amazing to me. Truly amazing.
the things i typed were wrong? or are you just gonna keep pumping your chest in the air?
you think the israeli response is proportional to the rocket threat?
from what i can see, it looks like a war crime.
Wait. Israelis are white but 50 miles east is brown?@Superica28 , this is unfortunately the answer, religious crazies who think we need to support Israel to bring about the apocalypse and salvation or that we think we need some whities as allies in the middle east because brown people = bad.
so religion or racism. Take your pick.
jew here too...
Wait. Israelis are white but 50 miles east is brown?
Cool pics. I only see intelligence and having a democracy as attractions to form an allience.Today, the intel pice makes perfect sense, but 20+ years ago?I was the Special Agent in Charge of then Vice President Biden’s U.S. Secret Service Division while he attended the funeral of Ariel Sharon. Rockets were fired from Gaza (Iron Dome knocked them down) while the burial service was performed at Sharon’s farm/residence. Israel is a our friend and our ally. Some people have absolutely no clue what really goes on in the world. ZERO.
I’m seated directly behind the Vice President. Shin Bet next to me in red tie. Do some research.
Directly behind VP wearing yarmulke. Wake up
Hey man. I like your style. We may not agree on everything, but if everyone agrees, no one is thinking.Cool pics. I only see intelligence and having a democracy as attractions to form an allience.Today, the intel pice makes perfect sense, but 20+ years ago?
Israel is a small nation that is threatened by most of it’s neighbors daily...their responses to the threats & attacks they face are always justified...so you wont engage, and just continue to talk about your dick size? got it.
I personally just found out. I’ve always just believed that it was two countries just fighting over claim to a holy land.I can't tell if this is joke? Are you just totally unaware of how Israel was created?
Haha thanks I guess. I knew we had some history buffs on here....wanted their takes since things have flared up again.Hey man. I like your style. We may not agree on everything, but if everyone agrees, no one is thinking.
You are like Woody Woodpecker...the consummate instigator. Kudos Go Tigers. BillyD
Unrelated but close friend of mine is part of a very small special ops team. Said if he could pick two guys from any countries in the world to have by his side in close combat, it would be Israel and Australia.
As far as our relationship with Israel... being an ally of theirs is a necessity. Especially when you consider what that area of the world would look like had we not been by their side.
Any arguments that point to religious favoritism or it being a “white country” as the driving forces behind why we need them as an ally just means they spend too much time on Instagram.
How many people have those rockets killed? How many palestinian children have advanced targeted munitions from the IDF killed?
You should be aware of the concept of proportionality in international law. You think Israel's response here is proportional? Is it ever?
Is it ok that Israelis have to have bomb shelters in their houses in case a rocket lands on their heads? Of course not.
Is it ok for Israel to commit war crimes in response? Of course not.
But the question was why we are still allies with a country that frequently commits war crimes. The answer is racism or religion.
What you can see doesn't mean shit.the things i typed were wrong? or are you just gonna keep pumping your chest in the air?
you think the israeli response is proportional to the rocket threat?
from what i can see, it looks like a war crime.
If you've ever been to Israel, you can get a good sense of what they face just by looking at the signs in buildings, schools, street corners, etc around rocket attacks/bombs and nearest shelters. Imagine getting attacked so much you have to have signs up that tell you what to do in the event one occurs? They teach rapid evacuation and triage medical assistance in schools for example.This is not one of your better posts. It has nothing to do with racism. It probably has to do with the fact that Jews have been persecuted forever and we have been helping protect them since Israel came into existence.
And Israel has to be tough considering every country that borders them wants to wipe them off the face of the planet.
What specifically are you saying is a war crime?the things i typed were wrong? or are you just gonna keep pumping your chest in the air?
you think the israeli response is proportional to the rocket threat?
from what i can see, it looks like a war crime.
I was the Special Agent in Charge of then Vice President Biden’s U.S. Secret Service Division while he attended the funeral of Ariel Sharon. Rockets were fired from Gaza (Iron Dome knocked them down) while the burial service was performed at Sharon’s farm/residence. Israel is a our friend and our ally. Some people have absolutely no clue what really goes on in the world. ZERO.
I’m seated directly behind the Vice President. Shin Bet next to me in red tie. Do some research.
Directly behind VP wearing yarmulke. Wake up
THIS. First thing is, there are no "good guys" in the middle east. These folks have been merrily killing each other for all of recorded history. The current mess started after WWII when the Allies created a country for the Jews. The problem is that while this was indeed the historical home of the Jews, the land wasn't unoccupied... And those people were basically told to get out and if they didn't move, they were moved by force.Yeah maybe it has more to do with protection since we helped create the country after the worst genocide in history.
THIS. First thing is, there are no "good guys" in the middle east. These folks have been merrily killing each other for all of recorded history. The current mess started after WWII when the Allies created a country for the Jews. The problem is that while this was indeed the historical home of the Jews, the land wasn't unoccupied... And those people were basically told to get out and if they didn't move, they were moved by force.
To put this in perspective, think how you'd feel if an Alliance of France, Germany, Russia, and China came to the US and said that the Cherokee and other tribes that used to live in SC had been treated very poorly. And that they were giving them a new homeland in what used to be SC/NC. "Here's a couple hundred bucks, now grab your stuff and get out". How would that go over with you? So in my opinion, the Palistinians have a gripe...
But that in NO WAY excuses the attacks on civilians and innocents that the PLO and other groups have done.
Israel is kind of in the same boat though. They got placed in a part of the world where everyone wants them dead. Not just behind the scenes, the countries around them say it all out loud and every single one of them has attacked Israel at one time or another. Their backs are figuratively to the wall. There's no place to go, and losing to any of these countries literally means death. That make you either die in a hurry or makes you ruthless and totally bad-ass.
But that in NO WAY excuses the attacks on civilians and innocents that they have done over the decades.
Bottom line here is that EVERYONE's hands are covered in blood (including ours). There are no easy solutions here and this is just the latest installment of people killing each other over different religions in a place where that's always happened.
This 100%. Both sided in this conflict suck, and both have a legitimate beef. Trying to say that one side is wrong and the other is right is just ignorant. I do believe we have some obligation to protect Israel (as does Great Britain). That's probably why we looked the other way when they stole nuclear bomb technology from us.