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Winning. Biden brings $20B intel semiconductor plant to Ohio.

Well done on the fact that you included a link in your response to the news "source" where you copied and pasted this drivel, a website called firepelosi.com. That is some A+ critical thinking on your part.

How freakin weak was Donald Trump? He didn't want to shut down the country but he was forced to by the meanie scientists and MSM? What a bitch boy. Not fit to lead the country if that is the case. I honestly cannot believe you are using the "it doesnt count b/c he didnt really want to do it" defense.

Because now it’s more monetarily advantageous for unemployed people to sit their asses at home that find a J.O.B!

If that was true, you would have MORE people on unemployment, not 16MM fewer people. Are you talking about the stimulus checks that went out last March? That was almost a year ago. And if you forgot, a certain morbidly obese former president also sent those checks out, with his name on them.

Good lord man. Take a lap and let the adults talk this one out. It's past your bedtime.

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So you can't refute anything I posted and no name calling. You're coming around, ole boy!

btw...you should be careful what you click on! 😂😂
 
Infrastructure: Passed a much needed, bi-partisan infrastructure package. Something that his predecessor tried and failed to do multiple times. Even republicans that voted against it are now back in their districts trying to take credit for it.

This one is true. Trump stumbled over himself on this one, but I must say Mitch did not do him any favors and the dems were okay with that. They knew they’d get it passed if they won the WH, so its been one of their shinning moments, if you want to call it that.

I am in the water/wastewater sector so this Trump infrastructure accomplishment was a shinning star in my book, but people forget about it. (President Trump signed into law the America's Water Infrastructure Act of 2018, allocating more than $6 billion on water infrastructure spending of all kinds. This bipartisan bill authorizes the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to manage water resource projects and policies nationwide.)


Did not shut down the economy: Unlike his predecessor, Biden has battled COVID without calling for a national shut down and quarantine.
Trump never wanted to shut down anything, you buffoon. Why would he? His health experts and the freakin’ MSM tortured his ass for going against “The Science”. Biden hasn’t shut anything down recently because we have a worldwide vaccine (which it's not) that was put in his lap to distribute! Give me freaking break with this one!

Vaccines: "490 million shots in arms ... At this time last year: less than 1% of Americans were fully vaccinated. Today: More than 71% of American adults are fully vaccinated."

Slow Clap here…not because this is great, it is, but any US President with any sense of logistics within his administration should be able to get this done.

First shot: "At the start of the year: just one-third of adults were eager to get vaccinated. Today, 85% of adults have had their first shot." Wonder how many and how long it will take those adults to get…….”THE BOOSTER!” ?

Schools open: When Biden took office, "46% of schools were open. Today, 99% of schools are open."
LMAO!!! We where in the beginning and middle of a PAN-DEMIK! (in my best Sam Kinison voice) Yes, finally schools began to reopened as we learned more over time….OH WAIT, did I just hear that many democratic run cities just went back to virtual learning? Nah, that can’t be…I need to get my ears checked!

Jobs: "The economy added nearly six million jobs this year — the most of any first-year president in history. When POTUS took office, ... unemployment was 6.3%. Today it's 4.2%."
Am I living in a different universe than you?????

BIDEN’S ECONOMIC CRISIS BY THE NUMBERS:


  • The U.S. economy added 210,000 jobs in November, missing the expected 573,000 new jobs.
  • Motor vehicles and parts manufacturing LOST 10,000 jobs.
  • General merchandise stores LOST 20,000 jobs.
  • Clothing and clothing accessories stores LOST 18,000 jobs.
  • Sporting goods, hobby, book, and music stores LOST 9,000 jobs.
  • The Labor Force Participation Rates decreased for the following demographics:
    • Black Workers
    • Black Women
    • Asian Workers
    • Hispanic and Latino teenagers
    • Those with less than a high school diploma
    • Those with some college
  • Inflation is taxation and it has gone up every month of Joe Biden’s presidency.
  • In October, the CPI increased by 0.9% to 6.2%, a 30-year record high.
  • Americans are paying more for just about everything because of inflation.
  • Real wages have decreased under Biden 7 out of 9 months since his first full month in office.
"The average number of Americans filing for unemployment over the last four weeks is at its lowest level since 1969. When POTUS took office, over 18 million were receiving unemployment benefits. Today, only 2 million are."
Because now it’s more monetarily advantageous for unemployed people to sit their asses at home that find a J.O.B! All the good hard working restaurateurs, mom n pops & travel industry thank you A LOT!

Child poverty: "Because of the [$1.9 trillion] American Rescue Plan and historic economy recovery, child poverty was cut in half."

Pump the Breaks Dude!! of course I did not type all this (I’m a lazy old man…)

but I’ll leave you this:

While the economy has recorded some strong numbers in 2021, a previous fact-check of the president's claims noted that much of the progress actually happened under former President Donald Trump.

"Since shrinking by more than 30% in the first six months of 2020, the US economy has recorded a strong bounce back and returned to above pre-pandemic levels," read a BBC analysis of Biden's economic claims last month. "Under Mr. Biden, the US economy has continued to grow this year, but a large part of the recovery happened under former president Donald Trump."
Biden also inherited an economy ravaged by the shutdown policies in response to COVID-19, a fact that BBC noted the president often leaves out of his talking points.

"But this job growth comes from a low base point, given that in April last year, unemployment hit its highest level since the Great Depression of the 1930s," the analysis read. "More than 22 million jobs were lost in the space of two months because of the impact of coronavirus."



Long-term unemployed: "In President Biden’s first 10 months, long-term unemployment fell by 1.8 million — the greatest drop in long-term unemployment in U.S. history."

Again, due to extenuating circumstances, but let’s hope this stays true! (plus I’m tired of typing)

This was fun! Can we do one on Kamala next?

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Facts don’t matter to the 5-10 posters on this board and neither does common sense. I’m done with taking the bait. Great job with refuting the bs. Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears with these people.
 
Well done on the fact that you included a link in your response to the news "source" where you copied and pasted this drivel, a website called firepelosi.com. That is some A+ critical thinking on your part.

How freakin weak was Donald Trump? He didn't want to shut down the country but he was forced to by the meanie scientists and MSM? What a bitch boy. Not fit to lead the country if that is the case. I honestly cannot believe you are using the "it doesnt count b/c he didnt really want to do it" defense.

Because now it’s more monetarily advantageous for unemployed people to sit their asses at home that find a J.O.B!

If that was true, you would have MORE people on unemployment, not 16MM fewer people. Are you talking about the stimulus checks that went out last March? That was almost a year ago. And if you forgot, a certain morbidly obese former president also sent those checks out, with his name on them.

Good lord man. Take a lap and let the adults talk this one out. It's past your bedtime.

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Oh the irony in your post. You are the most childish poster on this board. Can’t wait for the name calling responses.
 
How has Biden directly affected the price of gas? Be specific.
Here is 25 specific reasons for you my northern brainwashed friend.


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These twenty-five Biden administration policies are raising energy costs​

DEC 4, 2021 BY ABIGALE TARDIF
Americans who drove to their Thanksgiving destinations faced rising gas prices. (Not to mention higher costs for the gas station snacks!)

While holiday revelers were paying more at the pump, President Joe Biden announced the U.S. Department of Energy will release 50 million barrels of crude oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Energy experts told PBS interviewers that tapping the SPR won’t drive down gas prices. The decision was little more than “a drop in the ocean” when it comes to energy policy, one person said.

The decision also won’t counteract Biden administration policies that have caused rising energy costs — and that will continue to drive prices higher in the future.

Here are 25 decisions the president has made over the last 10 months that have affected gas prices, home heating costs, and other energy-related burdens U.S. families and businesses face.

#1 and 2: Adopting new EPA oil and gas rules​

Last month, the Environmental Protection Agency announced new regulations governing methane emissions from oil and gas production, transmission, storage, and distribution that would cost more than $1 billion a year.

In the spring, Biden signed a resolution that overturned Trump administration reforms to EPA oil and gas rules. This resolution will worsen energy poverty, reestablish burdensome regulations, and have a disproportionate impact on small businesses.

#3, #4, #5, #6, #7, and #8: Restricting or impeding energy projects​

One of Biden’s first actions after taking office was to halt new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters — a move that results in higher energy costs for the most vulnerable consumers.

The administration canceled the Keystone XL pipeline and suspended oil and gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and New Mexico (despite opposition from the Navajo Nation). It also resurrected the “Waters of the United States” rule, which would increase barriers to energy projects.

The White House is pursuing new standards for particulate matter and ozone, likely tightening them to unachievable levels for much of the country and creating new barriers for energy project permits. The president also has rescinded Endangered Species Act reforms, a move that will increase red tape and allow litigation to slow down energy projects.

#9: Rejoining the Paris agreement​

In April, without the consent of Congress, Biden rejoined the Paris agreement, which will result in onerous new regulations that could raise energy costs.

#10: Appointing unaccountable energy regulators​

The president has created several bodies within the White House charged with creating new policies to regulate energy. The people who run these councils are unelected and do not need Senate confirmation, but they have been given broad powers to come up with new executive actions — which do not need consent from Congress — to regulate U.S. energy production.

#11: Forcing states to restrict driving​

One section of the recently enacted Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, supported by the White House, would require every U.S. state to develop state carbon-reduction plans that must be approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation as well as be updated every four years. These plans are aimed at reducing driving all over the country — even for people in rural areas where public transportation is limited and driving is the only option.

#12, #13, and #14: Raising the prices of cars and trucks​

Biden has failed to take action on annual requirements and small refinery waivers for the Renewable Fuel Standard and in providing regulatory relief from this biofuel mandate due to economic hardship. His EPA also is pursuing a new rule regulating greenhouse gas emissions from cars and trucks. That single regulation could raise the average vehicle price by $1,000.

#15: Instituting a new policy on carbon taxes in organized wholesale electricity markets​

This carbon pricing policy statement, issued by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission in April 2021, is a blanket endorsement of top-down policies that have been demonstrated to be costly, ineffective, regressive, and consistently rejected by the American people.

#16: Raising the prices of common household necessities​

The EPA has issued a final rule to phase out a common, inexpensive refrigerant. This policy is a de facto tax on air conditioning and refrigeration.

#17: Stifling energy innovation​

In May, Biden issued a sweeping executive order that mobilized federal agencies, including the Securities and Exchange Commission, to enforce mandates on businesses, insurers, retirement funds, and suppliers. These policies will stifle innovation critical to improving the environment and will increase costs for a wide variety of businesses.

#18: Altering regulatory cost analyses​

The Biden administration has changed key inputs for economic and regulatory analysis, including raising the “social cost” of greenhouse gases. These policies will mask the true consumer cost of regulatory actions.

#19 and #20: Imposing new costs on power generation​

The administration resurrected an aggressive version of the Clean Power Plan for power sector mandates. This policy would impose burdensome regulations but would have little or no environmental benefit. The EPA also has mandated that even facilities with reduced emissions must remain on the list of “major” sources, subjecting these facilities to permitting burdens and higher costs.

#21: Impeding Americans exports​

The administration is considering potential restrictions on the export of crude oil that would increase, not decrease, energy prices.

#22 and #23: Raising taxes​

More than one-quarter of the administration-backed Build Back Better plan is pulled directly from the “Green New Deal.” The Build Back Better plan includes new taxes on natural gas and home heating. It also includes new taxes on petroleum and manufacturing.

#24: Picking energy winners and losers​

The Build Back Better plan would spend taxpayer dollars to push utilities to adopt more costly, politically preferred forms of energy, a move that would reduce Americans’ energy choices.

#25: Fueling the fire for future regulation​

Finally, through the Civilian Climate Corps, Build Back Better would fund the salaries of tens of thousands of anti-energy activists who would perpetuate high energy costs by demanding new and costly federal regulations and legislation.

Unlike releasing oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, these 25 steps are not just a “drop in the ocean.”

They have made, and will continue to make, a significant impact on Americans’ ability to afford the energy products that fuel their lives and livelihoods.
 
How has Biden directly affected the price of gas? Be specific.
Just for giggles here is some more links. A very nice summary though of how our vote has consequences.

Obummer - Gas prices go up for the duration.
Trump - Gas prices go way down for the duration.
China Joe - Gas prices go way up fast.

Its not a coincidence. You are making this too easy. Its like taking candy from a baby.



 
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You know what I meant, Trump ran on that strategy.......Joe ran on increasing corp tax, not cutting it regardless of what happens after the fact or in the background. If he wasn't faced with economic collapse and eroding approval ratings, he's not giving Intel huge tax shelters in return for help with lack of production driven inflation.

(I think I posted last year that even Barry was handing Nike huge tax wins while he was sticking it to tech giants)

The reality that both Trump and BIden have gotten wrong (which I also posted last year) is that the only way out of this mess is to force the economy to open back up, just like the UK are doing. What you're seeing in the market is public companies running out of creative ways to hide really bad fundamentals data and the supply chain can't be resolved with dumb mandate after dumb mandate no matter how many big firms decide to come back to the US. If you have access to a Bloomberg terminal, go check the velocity of cashflow through the economy and tell me why it's not looking so great for us. After that, go research the HUGE tax revenue gaps some states are facing which is going to be the next big debacle and after that, corporate debt once interest rates rise.

Last thing I'll say is that the intel move is too little too late.......the factory won't produce a single chip until 2025. We really needed Obama to openly adopt tax abatements in exchange for local investment in order to not be in this position right now and then we needed both dems and repubs to agree that it was in our best interest as a nation to ensure we maintained a unison approach so that we had little dependency on foreign assets for self-sustainability.

Not sure why we collectively don't want to blame both sides for where we are right now but fugg it, let's keep dividing the country into two halves.
Why do they even give af about taxes and tax rates? NO ONE in any level of DC elected government thinks we will pay off the debt. 30trillion. Add in unfunded liabilities and it's roughly 130trillion at the time of this post.
We are a country that, as our competitive efficiency has declined has replaced it with leverage. Leveraging debt. There is nothing JPowell, Biden, Trump, AOC or DeSantis can do to prevent the debt crisis that is coming. Who will this crush? The poor and middle class. Hell, Bezos and the gang will probably add another 20% to their wealth like they did during the rona.
 
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Just for giggles here is some more links. A very nice summary though of how our vote has consequences.

Obummer - Gas prices go up for the duration.
Trump - Gas prices go way down for the duration.
China Joe - Gas prices go way up fast.

Its not a coincidence. You are making this too easy. Its like taking candy from a baby.




There is one problem with your statement. It is bullshit. You are not taking candy from anyone.

The only reason gas fell during Trump's presidency is because global demand plummeted after Trump shut down the country and told everyone to stay home for 30 days. There was a overflow of supply, and the price of crude fell below $0.

And if the current price of gas is because of Biden's policies, then he must have gone back in time and implemented them in 2020 when Trump is president. The sharp spike in prices started when Trump was still president.


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Oh the irony in your post. You are the most childish poster on this board. Can’t wait for the name calling responses.

If you dont like being embarrassed by someone who operates in the real world of facts, then I suggest you run back to your safe space and cry about it there.
 
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There is one problem with your statement. It is bullshit. You are not taking candy from anyone.

The only reason gas fell during Trump's presidency is because global demand plummeted after Trump shut down the country and told everyone to stay home for 30 days. There was a overflow of supply, and the price of crude fell below $0.

And if the current price of gas is because of Biden's policies, then he must have gone back in time and implemented them in 2020 when Trump is president. The sharp spike in prices started when Trump was still president.


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The last part of your post is so inaccurate, and now you're even getting further into a rabbit hole of make believe.

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Not saying the numbers lie. This is what you DO NOT understand!
Demand for gas has increased coming out of the pandemic, and for this reason, the supply and demand rule takes effect. So we need more supply.

Despite the need for more supply, the White House has not only not encouraged more domestic production, but actually taken steps to discourage it. For instance, President Biden has proposed a ban on production on federal lands and waters—which constitute 22 percent of U.S. crude oil production. While the current supply and demand issues can’t be attributed to this ban specifically — courts have ordered that leasing continue for the time being — over time, taking this supply offline will further exacerbate supply issues and could push prices higher. In addition, other moves such as cancelling the Keystone XL pipeline — a priority of both President Obama and President Biden — and repeated calls from progressive politicians to ramp down oil and natural gas production are sending the wrong signal.
 
There is one problem with your statement. It is bullshit. You are not taking candy from anyone.

The only reason gas fell during Trump's presidency is because global demand plummeted after Trump shut down the country and told everyone to stay home for 30 days. There was a overflow of supply, and the price of crude fell below $0.

And if the current price of gas is because of Biden's policies, then he must have gone back in time and implemented them in 2020 when Trump is president. The sharp spike in prices started when Trump was still president.


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I call BS on your statement...LOL!!
 
Not saying the numbers lie. This is what you DO NOT understand!
Demand for gas has increased coming out of the pandemic, and for this reason, the supply and demand rule takes effect. So we need more supply.

Despite the need for more supply, the White House has not only not encouraged more domestic production, but actually taken steps to discourage it. For instance, President Biden has proposed a ban on production on federal lands and waters—which constitute 22 percent of U.S. crude oil production. While the current supply and demand issues can’t be attributed to this ban specifically — courts have ordered that leasing continue for the time being — over time, taking this supply offline will further exacerbate supply issues and could push prices higher. In addition, other moves such as cancelling the Keystone XL pipeline — a priority of both President Obama and President Biden — and repeated calls from progressive politicians to ramp down oil and natural gas production are sending the wrong signal.

Did you even read what you copied and pasted? It proved my point.

Nothing Biden has done is affecting the current gas prices. The keystone pipeline was not going to start delivering oil until 2023.

Biden's federal land ban is on NEW leases only. Not existing ones. The oil companies have enough leases already on federal land to last throughout Biden's first term. The only people currently limiting oil production are oil execs and their shareholders (I am one of them).
 
why are you waiting for someone else to do that? do you not have the information at hand to discredit anything he posted?

i think it's more along the lines of you don't know anythi

Did you even read what you copied and pasted? It proved my point.

Nothing Biden has done is affecting the current gas prices. The keystone pipeline was not going to start delivering oil until 2023.

Biden's federal land ban is on NEW leases only. Not existing ones. The oil companies have enough leases already on federal land to last throughout Biden's first term. The only people currently limiting oil production are oil execs and their shareholders (I am one of them).
I knew this little bit of give and take with you would end up with you not being able to give an inch on why you are wrong about certain things! I posted this, giving light to what you mentioned about oil execs, etc.

Biden's canceling the pipeline and his evident war on oil, and his administrations anti-oil fanaticism, has done NOTHING to help the cause.
 
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Plenty of good things happening in our country right now. Of course you won't here about any of them since you live in a right wing echo chamber. Their job is to convince you that everything is terrible in our country, until an R is elected and then magically, everything will be great the next day.
Yeah guys. Turn on MSNBC and you can hear about the couple of good things he's done over, and over, and over. The other 58 minutes of the hour you can hear about how much they hate Trump.
 
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Did you even read what you copied and pasted? It proved my point.

Nothing Biden has done is affecting the current gas prices. The keystone pipeline was not going to start delivering oil until 2023.

Biden's federal land ban is on NEW leases only. Not existing ones. The oil companies have enough leases already on federal land to last throughout Biden's first term. The only people currently limiting oil production are oil execs and their shareholders (I am one of them).
What do you think banning FUTURE exploration does to market FUTURES in energy??? The economy has not even started to get back on track. When travel and serious industry get back to 100% you'll see crude approaching 200/barrel. We need to get off fossil fuels at some point but this is more about placating radical base at best or destroying the middle class at worst. A well thought out conversion from coal/ff to nuclear, wind and solar would be appropriate.
 
What do you think banning FUTURE exploration does to market FUTURES in energy??? The economy has not even started to get back on track. When travel and serious industry get back to 100% you'll see crude approaching 200/barrel. We need to get off fossil fuels at some point but this is more about placating radical base at best or destroying the middle class at worst. A well thought out conversion from coal/ff to nuclear, wind and solar would be appropriate.
Oil at $200/B = potential economic collapse. It even starts to get tough at $100 but you get to 2 bills and it gets really really ugly.
 
2008 collapse was roughly $120/bar. Did you see the foia release of the 2008-10 bailout? We were told $3trillion. Ahh...it was $29trillion. Much of that going to foreign banks. Move along...nothing to see here.
 
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What do you think banning FUTURE exploration does to market FUTURES in energy??? The economy has not even started to get back on track. When travel and serious industry get back to 100% you'll see crude approaching 200/barrel. We need to get off fossil fuels at some point but this is more about placating radical base at best or destroying the middle class at worst. A well thought out conversion from coal/ff to nuclear, wind and solar would be appropriate.

The discussion is about current prices of gas, not futures. Fix News is telling the mouth breathers that the current prices at the pump is all Biden's fault, despite the fact that it started happening before Biden became president and that his policies have not affected the CURRENT price of gas. If you want to move the goal posts and talk about futures that is fine.

As for the second half of your statement. We are stuck between two extremes. While I agree slower move from fossil fuels to a more efficient energy would be more pragmatic, I don't see that the current admin has much choice but to move quickly. If Trump/Desantis/Taylor-Greene take the White House, we are right back to other extreme. Coal subsidies, climate change denial, etc.

And the TI braintrust will celebrate that they are "owning the libs!"
 
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The discussion is about current prices of gas, not futures. Fix News is telling the mouth breathers that the current prices at the pump is all Biden's fault, despite the fact that it started happening before Biden became president and that his policies have not affected the CURRENT price of gas. If you want to move the goal posts and talk about futures that is fine.

As for the second half of your statement. We are stuck between two extremes. While I agree slower move from fossil fuels to a more efficient energy would be more pragmatic, I don't see that the current admin has much choice but to move quickly. If Trump/Desantis/Taylor-Greene take the White House, we are right back to other extreme. Coal subsidies, climate change denial, etc.

And the TI braintrust will celebrate that they are "owning the libs!"
Happening on your watch is a political fact. It may not be logical, and you might not like it but it's fact. I didn't vote for Trump either time. Also, I have more in common with traditional 1st ammendment type liberals than I do the current far leftists. Biden spent most of his time in the senate as a sensible liberal. Something happened.
 
The discussion is about current prices of gas, not futures. Fix News is telling the mouth breathers that the current prices at the pump is all Biden's fault, despite the fact that it started happening before Biden became president and that his policies have not affected the CURRENT price of gas. If you want to move the goal posts and talk about futures that is fine.

As for the second half of your statement. We are stuck between two extremes. While I agree slower move from fossil fuels to a more efficient energy would be more pragmatic, I don't see that the current admin has much choice but to move quickly. If Trump/Desantis/Taylor-Greene take the White House, we are right back to other extreme. Coal subsidies, climate change denial, etc.

And the TI braintrust will celebrate that they are "owning the libs!"
Current price of "gas" is based on futures. Smfh.
 
Current price of "gas" is based on futures. Smfh.

It's a factor, but a much, much, much smaller one than current supply and demand. And Biden has done nothing to affect the current supply of oil. If you are looking to place blame, perhaps place it on our previous president who allowed so many domestic oil companies to go bankrupt during the pandemic. SMFH.
 
The discussion is about current prices of gas, not futures. Fix News is telling the mouth breathers that the current prices at the pump is all Biden's fault, despite the fact that it started happening before Biden became president and that his policies have not affected the CURRENT price of gas. If you want to move the goal posts and talk about futures that is fine.

As for the second half of your statement. We are stuck between two extremes. While I agree slower move from fossil fuels to a more efficient energy would be more pragmatic, I don't see that the current admin has much choice but to move quickly. If Trump/Desantis/Taylor-Greene take the White House, we are right back to other extreme. Coal subsidies, climate change denial, etc.

And the TI braintrust will celebrate that they are "owning the libs!"
What did you think was going to happen in the markets and on business decisions when China Joe got the steal? He has bragged long and loud about his green new deal and saying he would put the oil and coal industry out of business continuously. I gave you 25+ reasons already anyway.
 
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It's a factor, but a much, much, much smaller one than current supply and demand. And Biden has done nothing to affect the current supply of oil. If you are looking to place blame, perhaps place it on our previous president who allowed so many domestic oil companies to go bankrupt during the pandemic. SMFH.
He's blocked "future" exploration. Larry Fink has disabled investing in FF related companies. ESG will indirectly kill blue collar jobs.
 
It's a factor, but a much, much, much smaller one than current supply and demand. And Biden has done nothing to affect the current supply of oil. If you are looking to place blame, perhaps place it on our previous president who allowed so many domestic oil companies to go bankrupt during the pandemic. SMFH.
Futures is based on current supply and demand. You want to formulate your political ends and then adjust your means on the way. Have at it. Reality wins in the end. I'm done. Moving on.
 
Futures is based on current supply and demand. You want to formulate your political ends and then adjust your means on the way. Have at it. Reality wins in the end. I'm done. Moving on.

Just to recap...

My argument: The current price of oil is based on the current supply and demand (more than anything else).

Your argument: SMDH No! The current price of oil is based on futures! And futures are based on current supply and demand.
 
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