“Where is Nancy?”
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Yes. We already get it. You can't tell the difference between fact and nonsense. You've made that abundantly clear. That's why you should go back to only reading the paper so that people smarter than you can handle that task for you.
Facts are facts. We dont have our own facts. There tends to be some truth told by each side but not the whole truth. The hard part is figuring out what the whole truth is. Starting point being what both agree on about a story. In this story that would be a bad guy attacked Mr Pelosi . What each side doesnt agree with is motive. All the other stuff doesnt matter. Figure out the motive then the rest falls into place. The security footage might shed a bunch of light on things...
Well we know your not one of those people dont we? Did you runout of xanax? Better get a refill nov 8 is almost here...
Looks like Pelosi and Depape knew each other at minimum.
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EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi Home Is Surrounded by CCTV Cameras and Security Detail - Unlikely Anyone Could Break In Unnoticed | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
The Pelosi home in San Francisco is surrounded by CCTV cameras and security detail. It would have been almost impossible for anyone to enter that house and not be noticed. David DePape was identified by the police at the Pelosi home on early Friday morning at around 2:30 am.
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What did Nancy do when the supreme court was under attack ? She did nothing but delay protection until Kavanaugh was almost killed by leftist trash stirred up by Pelosi and Shumer
"The Security Cameras Are Everywhere" - Attorney Harmeet Dhillon on the Security in the Pelosi Neighborhood | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
One main question still unresolved is how did David DePape break into the Pelosi house and not get caught?
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Yep, just like the potus and his staff encouraging protestors outside supreme court justice homes and refusing to enforce the laws prohibiting such. Short memory on the dem side of things.
Also, a dem protestor was just convicted of murder this week during george floyd riots, wisc parade driver just convicted of 6 counts of murder - but yeah, one attack by a nut job on a dem politician and all logic goes right out the window.
Dem political attacks vastly outnumber pub attacks. I would also agree it is pretty directly tied to the political rhetoric coming from dem politicians and dem media.
What lead to this attack was mental instability and a severe drug problem. You have no more evidence that right wing political rhetoric was the driver over others suggesting that this was an alternative lifestyle booty call. The reality is, the house is surrounded by CCTV security cams and the cops will eventually release the body cam footage so we will all know in due course what happened at the scene. If they don't release the CCTV footage or the body cam footage, then you have your answer.
The attacker seemed more mentally f*cked up than a football bat but sure, let's blame MAGA.........you're trying to incriminate the millions of conservative voters for literally .0001% of the crazies on the far right, it's disingenuous and is commonplace in politics on both sides. The harsh reality though is both the left and the right have had ample opportunity to stamp out politically related violence but both would rather use it as a vote getting whipping stick versus actually putting effort towards solving it. This a great reminder that politics and elections are nothing more than popularity contests.
Your issue (and a few others) is that you want everyone on here that doesn't vote the same as you to agree with your stance that it's right wing violence but to achieve that, you would have to admit the left has helped normalize the violence against the other party........so despite you seeming somewhat pragmatic and rational, you don't seem capable of doing that so finger pointing will resume.
Also, the take that these guys are driving what lead to the attack is nonsense.......why is reposting tweets from someone they don't know, any different than the left jumping to the conclusion that this was a right wing radical who wanted to kill Nancy Pelosi? You literally have no facts yet, no different than the other narrative. It's a message board for christ's sake. If you're angry about bad information making it to the public sphere, start with media and work your way down.
Excerpts from the Paul Pelosi Story Elon Musk Tweeted and Then Took Down | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
As reported earlier today, Elon Musk called out Hillary Clinton for sharing a LA Times article that aimed to paint Paul Pelosi’s “attacker” David DePape as a far-right conspiracy theorist.
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Is Nancy Pelosi a 'Beard'? Does this Explain Her Unceasingly Angry Disposition? | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
Beard – Beard is an American slang term describing a person who is used, knowingly or unknowingly, as a date, romantic partner (boyfriend or girlfriend), or spouse either to conceal infidelity or to conceal one’s sexual orientation.
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Pretty tough to fabricate a riot but nothing would surprise me in this day and age
I think I clearly said educate me based on rumors I an hearing
If the scrutiny is a problem then it speaks for itself
That you disparage me inferring me asking to be enlightened is a problem then I see where the problem begins
I will wait till the investigation is further along so i can be better informed
Paul Pelosi Encounter Draws Comparisons To FL Governor Candidate Andrew Gillum's Drug Orgy | The Gateway Pundit | by Jacob Engels
With the first-hand accounts from law enforcement in the alleged late-night home invasion of the Pelosi’s San Fransisco residence that left husband Paul Pelosi hospitalized after he was supposedly bludgeoned by left-wing Berkeley nudist David Depape, mainstream media journalists and Democrats...
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Scrutiny should never be a problem. Especially when a political party is using the event as a cudgel for their desired narrative. Don't want scrutiny? Don't politicize the event.
Glad there was football to distract me from this thread this weekend... Wish Paul the best, he's a human first and foremost. Regardless of politics, imagine if it was your grandfather that was attacked. Horrific, glad he seems to be rebounding/is expected to make a full recovery
Couple of notes:
1. CBS made a reporting error so there wasn't a third person in the house - People should discard that.
2. Protective glass often breaks outward when struck so any efforts to indicate that the glass was broken from the inside seem flimsy at best.
3. The Police information seems pretty accurate.
4. Pelosi referred to the assailant as a friend. It seems highly likely he did that because he was trying to calm the person when he was on the phone with 911. Very viable tactic and doesn't mean he knew the guy. This whole "they were lovers" thing is absurd. Lots of people sleep in their underwear or less.
IMO, seems like all the conspiracy crap is just that, crap. We should let it go and deal with the bigger issues which is people who are mentally ill roaming the streets. Especially people who have a history of abuse toward their kids and their romantic partners. I mean really, why the hell was he not locked up?
1. CBS made a reporting error so there wasn't a third person in the house - People should discard that.
2. Protective glass often breaks outward when struck so any efforts to indicate that the glass was broken from the inside seem flimsy at best.
3. The Police information seems pretty accurate.
4. Pelosi referred to the assailant as a friend. It seems highly likely he did that because he was trying to calm the person when he was on the phone with 911. Very viable tactic and doesn't mean he knew the guy. This whole "they were lovers" thing is absurd. Lots of people sleep in their underwear or less.
IMO, seems like all the conspiracy crap is just that, crap. We should let it go and deal with the bigger issues which is people who are mentally ill roaming the streets. Especially people who have a history of abuse toward their kids and their romantic partners. I mean really, why the hell was he not locked up?
Given its Halloween today, how many scary movies do the people wake up to an intruder and they don't get dressed? Uhhhh like probably 99%; and yes the 911 operator was likely attempting to deescalate the situation, which is part of their job
I think it's great that you are acknowledging that the right wing BS about this story is just that... BS. (even after you started another thread promoting the BS) But it's too late, IMO. The cat is out of the bag. Just like the "stolen election" BS, once it is out there, it is never coming back. The majority of the mouth breathers in this thread are going to believe the BS, no matter how many times they are shown that it is not true.
I have not seen a bunch of info on the 911 call, but what I saw said he was able to make the call when he convinced the assailant to let him go to the bathroom. Doesn't sound like the attacker let him call the police. Begs the question why would you not lock yourself in the bathroom if you had enough privacy to make a phone call.
Biggest question is how he got in to start with. Did security have the night off? How did he break the windows?
Hopefully we all wait to hear the details
First and foremost the health and well being of all involved is paramount
Based on the additional information I have seen in the media it appears that the guy broke in and was in a daze
Thats why Paul Pelosi had time to call 911 and talk
or that is what I think
Let’s be respecful of the family in this time
I posted something that came from a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who has had a history of breaking big stories no one would have believed otherwise. He didn't start something unfounded. He just said there are questions that should be answered. Again, scrutiny is always warranted. Saying we want to scrutinize things doesn't mean we want to conjure up conspiracy theories. When this happened, you were all too eager to run with the Trump effect causing this. We are also finding out that isn't really the case now that information is coming out about the mental state of this man and his history overall. Also, maybe you should realize you're one of the mouth breathers you seem to dislike so much. Your history shows you're about as balanced as a one man tied to a 500lb. anchor.
Your history shows you're about as balanced as a one man tied to a 500lb. anchor.
WTF does that even mean, you mouth-breathing yokel? That is the kind of nonsense I would expect from the #28 ranked mortgage guy in Calhoun, Ga.
They just lie and change the story when it suits them. It not just one side of the MSM it all sides of the MSM...
Politico is owned by a hardcore conservative. Let someone else do this for you. Please!
^^^^^
This guy would give apptiger a run for his money in a smoothest brain contest
That’s awfully revisionist and claiming kavanaugh was almost killed is hilariously hyperbolic
No they misinterpreted the sheriff’s words during this press conference, and then modified it as they got additional info. Kind of goes to show you how easy it is to get information wrong when you’re rushing to be the first person to release an article.
From the DA - “The other thing is we want to make it clear that there were only two people in the home at the time that the police arrived, Mr. Pelosi and the suspect, there was no third person present,” she said.
An attack by an illegal immigrant in a sanctuary city/state. Who would have ever guessed this could happen? hope some of the lib politicians are working to get him released and not held on bail.
kavenaugh had to exit the fancy steak restaurant that he was eating in through the back door in order to not get hassled by protesters who were peacefully protesting.
Excellent article that addresses the denialism and whataboutism on the right. Copied and pasted below since it's behind a paywall.
"It should not be controversial to say that America has a major problem with right-wing political violence. The evidence continues to accumulate — yet the GOP continues to deny responsibility for this horrifying trend.
On Friday, a man enflamed by right-wing conspiracy theories (including QAnon) entered the San Francisco home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and attacked her 82-year-old husband with a hammer, fracturing Paul Pelosi’s skull. “Where is Nancy?” he reportedly shouted, echoing the mob that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, at President Donald Trump’s instigation. This comes after years of Republican demonization of the House speaker, a figure of hatred for the right rivaled only by Hillary Clinton.
The same day as the Pelosi attack, a man pleaded guilty to making death threats against Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.). Two days earlier, three men who were motivated by right-wing, anti-lockdown hysteria after covid-19 hit were convicted of aiding a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D). In August, another man died after attacking an FBI office because he was so upset about the bureau’s search of Mar-a-Lago. “We must respond with force,” he wrote on Trump’s Truth Social website.
Then there are all the terrible hate crimes, in cities including Pittsburgh, El Paso and Buffalo, where gunmen were motivated by the kind of racist rhetoric — especially the “great replacement theory” — now openly espoused on Fox “News.”
This is where any fair-minded journalist has to offer an obligatory “to be sure” paragraph: To be sure, political violence is not confined to the right. Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) was shot in 2017 by a gunman with leftist beliefs, and in June, a man was arrested for allegedly plotting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh after becoming incensed about court rulings on abortion and guns.
Republican leaders cite those attacks to exonerate themselves of any responsibility for political violence. “Violence is up across the board,” Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said on Sunday, arguing that it’s “unfair” to blame anti-Pelosi rhetoric for the assault on Pelosi’s husband.
Violence is unacceptable whether from the left or right, period. But we can’t allow GOP leaders to get away with this false moral equivalency. They are evading their responsibility for their extremist rhetoric that all too often motivates extremist actions.
The New America think tank found last year that, since Sept. 11, 2001, far-right terrorists had killed 122 people in the United States, compared with only one killed by far-leftists. A study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies last year found that, since 2015, right-wing extremists had been involved in 267 plots or attacks, compared with 66 for left-wing extremists. A Washington Post-University of Maryland survey released in January found that 40 percent of Republicans said violence against the government can be justified, compared with only 23 percent of Democrats.
There is little doubt about what is driving political violence: the ascendance of Trump. The former president and his followers use violent rhetoric of extremes: Trump calls President Biden an “enemy of the state,” attacks the FBI as “monsters,” refers to the “now Communist USA” and even wrote that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has a “DEATH WISH” for disagreeing with him. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) has expressed support for executing Nancy Pelosi and other leading Democrats. Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.) has tweeted that “the America Last Marxists … are radically and systematically DESTROYING our country.”
That type of extremist rhetoric used to be confined to fringe organizations such as the John Birch Society. Now it’s the GOP mainstream, with predictable consequences. The U.S. Capitol Police report that threats against members of Congress have risen more than tenfold since Trump’s election in 2016, up to 9,625 last year.
The sickness on the right was on display after news broke about the attack on Paul Pelosi. While leading Republicans condemned the horrific assault, the MAGA base seethed with sick jokes making light of the violence and insane conspiracy theories. (Filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza suggested that the attack was “a romantic tryst that went awry.”)
Karen Tumulty: Glenn Youngkin's riff about the attack on Paul Pelosi is not just tasteless but dangerous
There was, alas, no sign of the GOP taking responsibility for fomenting hatred. Kari Lake, the GOP nominee for governor of Arizona, blamed “leftist elected officials who have not enforced the laws.” Naturally, Republicans accuse Democrats of being “divisive” for citing Republican rhetoric as a contributing factor to political violence.
It’s true that, by calling out GOP extremism, Democrats do risk exacerbating the polarization of politics. But they can’t simply ignore this dangerous trend. And it’s not Democrats who are pushing our country to the brink: A New York Times study found that MAGA members of Congress who refused to accept the results of the 2020 election used polarizing language at nearly triple the rate of Democrats.
So please don’t accept the GOP framing of the assault on Paul Pelosi as evidence of a problem plaguing “both sides of the aisle.” Political violence in America is being driven primarily by the far right, not the far left, and the far right is much closer to the mainstream of the Republican Party than the far left is to the Democratic Party."
"It should not be controversial to say that America has a major problem with right-wing political violence. The evidence continues to accumulate — yet the GOP continues to deny responsibility for this horrifying trend.
On Friday, a man enflamed by right-wing conspiracy theories (including QAnon) entered the San Francisco home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and attacked her 82-year-old husband with a hammer, fracturing Paul Pelosi’s skull. “Where is Nancy?” he reportedly shouted, echoing the mob that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, at President Donald Trump’s instigation. This comes after years of Republican demonization of the House speaker, a figure of hatred for the right rivaled only by Hillary Clinton.
The same day as the Pelosi attack, a man pleaded guilty to making death threats against Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.). Two days earlier, three men who were motivated by right-wing, anti-lockdown hysteria after covid-19 hit were convicted of aiding a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D). In August, another man died after attacking an FBI office because he was so upset about the bureau’s search of Mar-a-Lago. “We must respond with force,” he wrote on Trump’s Truth Social website.
Then there are all the terrible hate crimes, in cities including Pittsburgh, El Paso and Buffalo, where gunmen were motivated by the kind of racist rhetoric — especially the “great replacement theory” — now openly espoused on Fox “News.”
This is where any fair-minded journalist has to offer an obligatory “to be sure” paragraph: To be sure, political violence is not confined to the right. Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) was shot in 2017 by a gunman with leftist beliefs, and in June, a man was arrested for allegedly plotting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh after becoming incensed about court rulings on abortion and guns.
Republican leaders cite those attacks to exonerate themselves of any responsibility for political violence. “Violence is up across the board,” Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said on Sunday, arguing that it’s “unfair” to blame anti-Pelosi rhetoric for the assault on Pelosi’s husband.
Violence is unacceptable whether from the left or right, period. But we can’t allow GOP leaders to get away with this false moral equivalency. They are evading their responsibility for their extremist rhetoric that all too often motivates extremist actions.
The New America think tank found last year that, since Sept. 11, 2001, far-right terrorists had killed 122 people in the United States, compared with only one killed by far-leftists. A study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies last year found that, since 2015, right-wing extremists had been involved in 267 plots or attacks, compared with 66 for left-wing extremists. A Washington Post-University of Maryland survey released in January found that 40 percent of Republicans said violence against the government can be justified, compared with only 23 percent of Democrats.
There is little doubt about what is driving political violence: the ascendance of Trump. The former president and his followers use violent rhetoric of extremes: Trump calls President Biden an “enemy of the state,” attacks the FBI as “monsters,” refers to the “now Communist USA” and even wrote that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has a “DEATH WISH” for disagreeing with him. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) has expressed support for executing Nancy Pelosi and other leading Democrats. Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.) has tweeted that “the America Last Marxists … are radically and systematically DESTROYING our country.”
That type of extremist rhetoric used to be confined to fringe organizations such as the John Birch Society. Now it’s the GOP mainstream, with predictable consequences. The U.S. Capitol Police report that threats against members of Congress have risen more than tenfold since Trump’s election in 2016, up to 9,625 last year.
The sickness on the right was on display after news broke about the attack on Paul Pelosi. While leading Republicans condemned the horrific assault, the MAGA base seethed with sick jokes making light of the violence and insane conspiracy theories. (Filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza suggested that the attack was “a romantic tryst that went awry.”)
Karen Tumulty: Glenn Youngkin's riff about the attack on Paul Pelosi is not just tasteless but dangerous
There was, alas, no sign of the GOP taking responsibility for fomenting hatred. Kari Lake, the GOP nominee for governor of Arizona, blamed “leftist elected officials who have not enforced the laws.” Naturally, Republicans accuse Democrats of being “divisive” for citing Republican rhetoric as a contributing factor to political violence.
It’s true that, by calling out GOP extremism, Democrats do risk exacerbating the polarization of politics. But they can’t simply ignore this dangerous trend. And it’s not Democrats who are pushing our country to the brink: A New York Times study found that MAGA members of Congress who refused to accept the results of the 2020 election used polarizing language at nearly triple the rate of Democrats.
So please don’t accept the GOP framing of the assault on Paul Pelosi as evidence of a problem plaguing “both sides of the aisle.” Political violence in America is being driven primarily by the far right, not the far left, and the far right is much closer to the mainstream of the Republican Party than the far left is to the Democratic Party."
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I'm shocked you got your feathers rustled and started name calling. Are you ok @nytigerfan?
Protesting in any form against the judicial side of government is forbidden by law except if the libs and Dems disagree with you
Then they doxx you threaten assassination and have protests against the written law
So guess it was peaceful like the 574 riots the other year in which multiple people died across that year
Whats this? Are you threatening this guy now?lol
WAYNE ROOT: Is the Paul Pelosi Story the New Jussie Smollett Fraud, or the New Hunter Biden Laptop Scandal? | The Gateway Pundit | by Assistant Editor
By Wayne Allyn Root No one knows what happened at the Pelosi mansion.
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Can't tell if you're being intentionally dumb or just your normal dumb.
They arrested a man outside of his house who was geared up to kill him and his family, which the assailant openly admitted. Think he might have had zip ties too, probably a Jan 6th right winger masquerading as a purple haired "men can get pregnant" liberal.
