Dale was *checks notes* NOT fvcking around about that hose situation. The man takes his work serious.
⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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Thank you guys for filling in the blanks for those of us that don't get to watch. I really appreciate it as do others I'm sure.
Gotta appreciate a man who sleeps every night away in his recliner
Oh man that was classic. They tried to portray him as a "what were your whereabouts night of" sus character
"Go to bed or go to sleep?. I can you tell my routine. Every day I hit my shower by 4:30 - 5 and it's over"
"So you're saying you hit the recliner by 5 and that's it?"
"DONE"
LOL
I really liked Maggie's sister...and that was before I found out she was a "big big big Clemson fan."
State spent 20+ minutes building up to the water hose being meticulously stored at the kennel. Dale gave us the procedure he followed twice per day. I have to admit it was a big letdown that with a 1 second clip of the dog kennel video from Paul’s phone, sans sound, it obliterated the possibility of Alex washing off after the shootings. But then with one statement from Dale, the Defense’s efforts to paint the possibility of guns lying around the kennels waiting on killers to show up to use them to kill Maggie and Paul was also obliterated.
Griffin really messed up late yesterday. He asked a question/let Maggie’s sister give a long answer to a question. She mentioned the roadside shooting. That let the State ask about the shooting without bring in cousin Eddie. Griffin argued about it to the judge but lost. He was visibly very hurt/upset about it. I saw Poot give him a side eye that would’ve killed most men.
Maybe it's just me but Griffin comes off as very unlikable.
Recall @tigerbean posting he was like a witness for the state. Care to follow-up?
Griffin called the sister and told her Alex had been shot , and had been fired for “stealing money”. The judge asked him if he was going to end up testifying. It was a very bad day for Griffin.
I can't believe that they haven't hung the bastard yet.
He is soooooo guilty it's not a question anymore.
Now it's just theatrics by the defense attorneys.
They know he is guilty.
How could your moral compass defend a murderer.
Poor old dick being a dick...
He is soooooo guilty it's not a question anymore.
Now it's just theatrics by the defense attorneys.
They know he is guilty.
How could your moral compass defend a murderer.
Poor old dick being a dick...
like the response just below your post, Griffin was present at so much (as a friend and lawyer) and his questions are leading with information as if he is testifying
he had intimate knowledge because he was a friend before all this
that’s what I meant
but Alex knows this and it’s a way for Alex to testify through Jim in case Alex decides not to testify
Yes. Her husband is big buddies with Brownell apparently and was a leading fundraiser for the Littlejohn renovations and the alumni Association made him an honorary alumni (all his kids went to Clemson).
Also a rumor that a few days before the killing he, Brownell, Alex, and another person played a round of golf at the Reserve or somewhere nearby.
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the ME testified that she was shot in front -1 in thigh and one in stomach that hit kidney
very likely if she turned to run she was bent over or on all fours because of pain
then the upward shot came from behind and went through her body almost from butt through and through breast into her head
final shot came from above into the head execution style
so shooter likely facing with 2 shots
she ran and fell and shot a 3rd time up her body
and then shooter circled her and stood over her and shot her in the head
not sure but I think all with same gun so likely one shooter on Maggie And not multiple
in one of the videos of Alex he said that they were here for baby shower and all played golf (and a photo taken of the Murdaugh family at what appears to be the reserve)
Paul didn’t play because he didn’t play golf
he had driven separately and then left when they played golf
no mention of Brownell
My big question with the defense team. Who the heck is paying all these bills? If AM is so broke and everything he owns were $$$$. Theories may have been posted but I missed
www.foxnews.com
Alex Murdaugh's legal dream team strategizes at luxe South Carolina estate
Alex Murdaugh's legal team is staying at a luxurious estate with five homes, seven lakes and a sparkling swimming pool during the Walterboro, South Carolina, trial.
no it showed that if Dale left the hose meticulously hung, then it was on the ground when Paul filmed the dog
when the police arrived after the murders the hose was hung but not like Dale had done it “bunch of kinks in it” and the “nozzle not where I leave it”
so after they are killed WHO would hang the hose
I get that defense was trying to show water on ground and not a clean up job
but hose hung after murders shows more of a cover up and STILL the possibility that Alex cleaned up
His 401k was liquidated. 1/3rd went to the Beach family and 600k or so was reserved for his legal defense. It's long gone now.My big question with the defense team. Who the heck is paying all these bills? If AM is so broke and everything he owns were $$$$. Theories may have been posted but I missed
Alex Murdaugh's legal dream team strategizes at luxe South Carolina estate
Alex Murdaugh's legal team is staying at a luxurious estate with five homes, seven lakes and a sparkling swimming pool during the Walterboro, South Carolina, trial.
Defense staying in some fancy $20k/week plantation house.
Excellent point and one I was going to make this morning as well. Thought about this in the early morning hours while making my old man bathroom trip. It does show the hose in a different position between the video and the crime scene photo. It was definitely handled in that 1.5 hour time frame.
Thanks for sharing this Flopeye. I was wondering if they were making the trip daily to and from Columbia.My big question with the defense team. Who the heck is paying all these bills? If AM is so broke and everything he owns were $$$$. Theories may have been posted but I missed
Alex Murdaugh's legal dream team strategizes at luxe South Carolina estate
Alex Murdaugh's legal team is staying at a luxurious estate with five homes, seven lakes and a sparkling swimming pool during the Walterboro, South Carolina, trial.
So the defense gets top choice and the state gets the Hampton Inn. I wonder where the judge is staying. I think he's a cool operator and is doing an admirable job with the trial. It could easily become a circus but he's keeping things under control.
Definitely been impressed with how the judge has kept it flowing and under control
A lawyer's job is not to determine whether the client is guilty or innocent and not defend him if he is guilty. Most lawyers don't ask the client if they committed the crime for the reason the client could not testify if the client admitted the crime. Believe it or not I almost never knew whether my client committed the crime he was charged with. Often times I reached a conclusion, but it was never because my client admitted it.
Defense is trying to suggest that the hose could've been hung up prior to the murders.
So, here's all that would've needed happen in the few minutes between the video and the murders for the defenses apparent story to be true:
- Alex, Maggie or Paul tracks down Bubba the dog who's known to be stubborn.
- Alex, Maggie or Paul removes chicken from Bubbas mouth.
- Alex, Maggie or Paul puts Bubba back in a kennel.
-Alex, Maggie or Paul rolls hose back up into its rack.
- Alex leaves the kennel and returns to the house.
- murderer(s) arrive on property without alarming Maggie or Paul
- murderer(s) find guns left on property without alarming Maggie or Paul.
You would still have to convince me of why Alex lied about not being there, amongst a lot of other things.
Honestly thought in the beginning the prosecution was going to have to convince me that it was him without doubt
Now it is the defense needing to prove to me somehow that all this could have happened without AM being a part if it
They have to convince me why all these coincidences happened
-He was there but did not do it? Lied about being there
-There were random guns so happened to be left exactly where Paul and Maggie were after Maggies was talked into coming to the house
-AM changed clothes, clothes were completely dry like they had just come out of the dryer (words of investigator), but he was sweaty
-He immediately appears to be covering tracks calling the guy who PM sent the video too asking if he received it just after the murders
To me the prosecution has uncovered motive between finances, upcoming boat trial, potential rocky marriage, etc. They have placed him there when he said he was not, given a timeline that lays out dout, and uncovered lie after lie than Alex told in statements and questioning
To me, now it is up to the defense to throw some sort of curve ball to the prosecution to create doubt but right now the prosecution has me believing that there is basically no way he was not in someway involved
Also, in the interview with sled on June 10, in the car, he told them Maggie was at the house at moselle(sp) that morning when he got up. Just lie after lie.
it is impossible to keep up with all of them
Pretty damning that Maggie's sis was told by Maggie she was going to Moselle for the sole purpose of going to see his parents...and then he left without her.
Nice synopsis. The one item I would add (which I think is one of the most damning pieces of evidence) is ...
Where are the clothes from the "tree video" recorded a couple of hours before the murders?
A lot of things could've happened (murder(s) could've snuck on the property just after AM left, murder(s) could've used Murdaugh guns they took from the property earlier, shots could've been fired without AM seeing or hearing anything, AM could've innocently messed up his timeline about being at kennels, AM could've changed clothes to take a nap, etc.), but even if all of that was true (ha!), where are the clothes he was wearing that afternoon?
Clothes don't just disappear. So either AM stuffed them in a trash bag after he shot his wife & son and disposed of the clothes with the guns OR the real murders broke into the house after the killing, found the exact clothes he was wearing and took them.
yes I did leave that out...my guess is it burned in the shed but who knows. Another option is if there were 2 shooters which is possible, they could have disposed of them
But most definitely another mystery
Has anything been mentioned in the trial about the shed that burned? Didn't said shed belong to one of the brothers and was physically several miles from the Moselle property?
