⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

[yemassee]

I think he spent money like a drunk sailor to maintain his lifestyle and was basically living paycheck to paycheck.

I understand it is hard to comprehend how someone can make a million per year and be broke but his monthly expenses were enormous. He was paying multiple employees to take care of his home, farm and dogs. Paying for upkeep of two homes. Probably had 10 vehicles, multiple boats, multiple ATV's, multiple tractors, kids in private school, kids in college. He had made multiple improvements to his farm (waterfowl impounds, shooting range, dove fields, barns, sheds, etc). Wife probably bought new furniture every year and high dollar clothes. Expensive family trips. It goes on and on. You could burn through 50K/mo in no time.

If that’s the case then why does his defense team say he spent all of the money on drugs as opposed to just saying he lived beyond his means? Is it better to be a drug addict than a big spender? I don’t doubt he was spending some money but he was also reportedly making a million a year before the money he allegedly stole. Plus his family had a lot of money.

You are right that a hunting property, employees, wife, private school, and offshore fishing can burn through a lot of money.

 

[TigerTC]

I am listening but not watching...

Are they tying together the location of Maggie's phone when it was dumped with Alex's car?

 

[tigertommy1]

If that’s the case then why does his defense team say he spent all of the money on drugs as opposed to just saying he lived beyond his means? Is it better to be a drug addict than a big spender? I don’t doubt he was spending some money but he was also reportedly making a million a year before the money he allegedly stole. Plus his family had a lot of money.

You are right that a hunting property, employees, wife, private school, and offshore fishing can burn through a lot of money.

Sounds like the bad land deal on the islands wiped out everything he/they had. Put em in a financial hole that started the robbing Peter to pay Paul downward spiral

 

[MisterSlappy]

I am listening but not watching...

Are they tying together the location of Maggie's phone when it was dumped with Alex's car?

Yes, they advise he went by the phone's found location around 9:08pm on his route to his mother's home. He sped up after passing by the location so it appears they are insinuating he slowed down to dump it and then sped up.

 

[MojitoJoe]

Onstar GPS shows he did not park in the parking area at his mom... but out by the woods.

 

[Chefkdh]

Onstar GPS shows he did not park in the parking area at his mom... but out by the woods.

And only there for 20 mins. Not really enough time to be there and comfort mom...

 

[Tiger1031]

$2.6 million per year on a personal drug habit? That seems extremely farfetched

I'm guessing he might be getting blackmailed or fronting a drug syndicate. Total guess!

I think that money is in a Caribbean or swiss bank account somewhere. I also think that Alex's plan is to get acquittal for the murder charges, then plea bargain a sentence for the other charges, so that he can get out in 10 years or so on parole. Then the money will be sitting there waiting on him.

 

[Shevlin77]

Want to get their money back that's owed them. Scare the "moneyman" and get him to pay.

Killing Eddie or Alex gets them no money.

Doesn’t make sense to me if somebody murdered my family I definitely wouldn’t pay those MF’s. Send Buster out is the country and go after those dudes in a blaze of glory.

 

[Flopeye Mike]

Boom. 8:49. Their phones went silent forever.
8:55 someone has their phones.
Phone timeline - Vehicle Data timeline is finally tied together.

 

[Tigerbomb]

If that’s the case then why does his defense team say he spent all of the money on drugs as opposed to just saying he lived beyond his means? Is it better to be a drug addict than a big spender? I don’t doubt he was spending some money but he was also reportedly making a million a year before the money he allegedly stole. Plus his family had a lot of money.

You are right that a hunting property, employees, wife, private school, and offshore fishing can burn through a lot of money.

Because it sounds much more tragic to float a narrative that drugs broke you as opposed to he is broke due to an extravagant lifestyle.

 

[MisterSlappy]

Boom. 8:49. Their phones went silent forever.
8:55 someone has their phones.
Phone timeline - Vehicle Data timeline is finally tied together.

Did he say the phone was traveling 43mph?

 

[Tmassen1]

Ended up being a triple murder. Guy killed his ex wife, her new husband and the person he blamed for original breakup. Then supposedly burned himself up, however I’ve heard “hearsay” that he may have actually killed 4 people and got away with it and has been living somewhere in Canada for years.

Where was this?

 

[Flopeye Mike]

Did he say the phone was traveling 43mph?

I’m thinking vehicle data shows average 43 coming back to Moselle. High end going 80mph.

 

[Flopeye Mike]

Want to see defense handle this

 

[TeyeGER2]

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Want to see defense handle this

Turn out the lights….. this trial is OVER.

 

[Lot4tailgater]

One thing that bugs me. I don't understand how he hasn't folded up and confessed yet. He did about the botched "suicide" attempt. I still think that could be coming. What I've seen today with the car data is going to be pretty difficult to discredit.

 

[yemassee]

Because it sounds much more tragic to float a narrative that drugs broke you as opposed to he is broke due to an extravagant lifestyle.

I guess someone could think that. Either way, no one believes he did that much oxy.

 

[yemassee]

One thing that bugs me. I don't understand how he hasn't folded up and confessed yet. He did about the botched "suicide" attempt. I still think that could be coming. What I've seen today with the car data is going to be pretty difficult to discredit.

My guess is he won’t confess because he does not want his family to turn on him. What surprises me is that his family is still there supposedly supporting him. Seems one would have to be delusional to think he was innocent after what has been presented today.

 

[MisterSlappy]

I want to know what was the heat from Miami per the text message AM rec'd.

 

[Chefkdh]

I want to know what was the heat from Miami per the text message AM rec'd.

It was the picture of the woman in a bikini lol

 

[Chefkdh]

I want to know what was the heat from Miami per the text message AM rec'd.

 

[nmerritt11]

Damn sounds like I’m missing some good shit today.

 

[KennyRogersRoasters]

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Want to see defense handle this

Avery didn't need to say they were pot-hole riddled country roads. Every road in this state is pot-hole riddled

 

[MisterSlappy]

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Thanks man I was trying to listen and missed the photo.

 

[TeyeGER2]

I guess someone could think that. Either way, no one believes he did that much oxy.

If he did, he would be one CONSTIPATED son of a gun!!

 

[TopGun01]

Damn sounds like I’m missing some good shit today.

Bottom line, data shows AM pulled up to the kennels and exactly 20 seconds later called 911. Of course he was supposed to have found both bodies and checked for pulse in that amount of time. Less time than it took me to write these 3 sentences.

 

[nmerritt11]

Bottom line, data shows AM pulled up to the kennels and exactly 20 seconds later called 911. Of course he was supposed to have found both bodies and checked for pulse in that amount of time. Less time than it took me to write these 3 sentences.

Yeah and the investigator already stated that there is no way he could have checked for piles and tried to turn bodies over without having blood all over him earlier in trial.

Sounds like the timeline is even more shattered and the Onstar may be the final thing that the jury needed to convict him. At this point his whole story is fvcked and his alibi is shattered

 

[Chefkdh]

State also introduced text conversation from Paul that Maggie had found AM's pills.

Then showed email to Palmetto Bank asking for another $600k three days before the murders saying that his dad would cosign on it if needed. Dad was incapacitated in hospital...

 

[TeyeGER2]

Bottom line, data shows AM pulled up to the kennels and exactly 20 seconds later called 911. Of course he was supposed to have found both bodies and checked for pulse in that amount of time. Less time than it took me to write these 3 sentences.

AND......did it all without getting any blood on himself in 17 seconds.

 

[eubyscott]

I guess the state was saving the best for last. I believe this will be the information that puts it over the top for the jury.

This is the kind of evidence that makes one think that no one besides Alex could’ve committed these murders.

Hard to discredit literal cellphone and car evidence.

 

[AvenueOfChampions]

I want to know what was the heat from Miami per the text message AM rec'd.

 

[TeyeGER2]

I guess the state was saving the best for last. I believe this will be the information that puts it over the top for the jury.

This is the kind of evidence that makes one think that no one besides Alex could’ve committed these murders.

Hard to discredit literal cellphone and car evidence.

And makes me scared to own a phone or drive a car! Going back to smoke signals and riding mules but I guess the Environmentalists would get me then.

 

[Chefkdh]

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tweet of the day

 

[nmerritt11]

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This is amazing

 

[kell9941]

Where was this?

HH. If you know, you know.

 

[santee]

So defense has asked for a Directed Verdict saying prosecution has failed to prove their case.

Attorneys out there...would that come today after prosecution rests it's case

Do not see how that could happen after todays timeline was laid out

Obviously Smith will not be called to testify. Maybe Prosecusion feels he is too unreliable

 

[CLEMSON96JDH]

This is amazing

Yeah. Gunn's wife is pretty spectacular.

 

[CLEMSON96JDH]

So defense has asked for a Directed Verdict saying defense has failed to prove their case.

Attorneys out there...would that come today after prosecution rests it's case

Do not see how that could happen after todays timeline was laid out

Obviously Smith will not be called to testify. Maybe Prosecusion feels he is too unreliable

The directed verdict is a standard motion.

 

[Chefkdh]

So defense has asked for a Directed Verdict saying prosecution has failed to prove their case.

Attorneys out there...would that come today after prosecution rests it's case

Do not see how that could happen after todays timeline was laid out

Obviously Smith will not be called to testify. Maybe Prosecusion feels he is too unreliable

When the motion was made, the state said they had one more witness to call to the stand to which Judge Newman said "that is if the directed verdict doesn't come" or something along those lines. Im guessing he can make that call but more noteworthy was that he isn't just firm with the defense team.

 

[santee]

When the motion was made, the state said they had one more witness to call to the stand to which Judge Newman said "that is if the directed verdict doesn't come" or something along those lines. Im guessing he can make that call but more noteworthy was that he isn't just firm with the defense team.

I saw that.....Did not really understand the judge's comment or why he made it....seemed kinda weird to me like he favors the defense's case