I think it depends on the setting and the expert did not understand that.
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Maybe it’s only on iPhone 14’s and newer and that’s why it was pointed out she had a 14. I have a 12 with latest software
The iPhone 14 was made available on September 16, 2022, and iPhone 14 Plus was made available on October 7, 2022, priced at $799 and $899 respectively, and was launched with iOS 16. Pre-orders for the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus began on September 9, 2022.
And I am not even an expert. Maybe Maggie is still alive and hanging out with Princess Dianna, Elvis and Dale Earnhardt.
Still waiting on the evidence he pulled the trigger, and murder weapons. People being mind blown from a not guilty verdict will be great. Or a hung jury.
Episode 3 of the Netflix series...
"You don't lose your virginity at 4.3 million dollars"
-Satterfield family attorneys
Pretty strong statement
"You don't lose your virginity at 4.3 million dollars"
-Satterfield family attorneys
Pretty strong statement
For the record, I think a hung jury is possible. Not likely, but possible.
But what do you mean about the murder weapons. Do you think the prosecution must produce the murder weapons in order to get a guilty verdict?
Not what I am saying. I do however feel they must have some decent evidence that he pulled the trigger, which in my opinion, they do not. I would not give a guilty verdict at this point.
After watching the nexflix doc…I hope i am wrong and Alex goes to jail
Agree. Wife and I watched all 3 tonight. Really well done. Would highly recommend. We'll probably binge all 3 of the HBO one tomorrow. Shit is fascinating
i think the biggest piece of circumstantial evidence is that Murdaugh says he didnt know where his family was the night they were killed.
There’s evidence he was at the scene of the crime.
A) he went to the kennels, killed them the went to his parents
Or
B) he went to his parentss them came back and killed them
By his own words, one of those scenarios is impossible
There’s evidence he was at the scene of the crime.
A) he went to the kennels, killed them the went to his parents
Or
B) he went to his parentss them came back and killed them
By his own words, one of those scenarios is impossible
as much as I have watched
I can’t remember where the golf cart was in all of this
mentioned yesterday by Ball that it was at the house I think
also side by side was parked at shed where Maggie was on ground
I can’t remember where the golf cart was in all of this
mentioned yesterday by Ball that it was at the house I think
also side by side was parked at shed where Maggie was on ground
What reasonable alternative do you have for Paul and Maggie’s death? What evidence is there, that in your mind, gives rise to any other scenario being realistic that someone else not named AM perpetrated this horrible crime?
Do you not think the cell phone and car data absolutely blows his alibi and places him at the scene during the murders? There is ample evidence the two missing guns from Mosell were the weapons that killed Paul and Maggie.
Help me understand what you would need to convict AM?
I cant imagine anyone thinking otherwise. I also found it interesting that the shotgun that was used showed a turkey shot and buck shot was in the chamber and two other guns were loaded the same way including the shotgun AM retrieved after pulling up to the kinnils.
I think the expert understood it. The prosecution didn’t make his point about what phone and iOS she had clear at all.
It’s shocking to me that this is the best the state has to offer. If there is validity in what they are trying to point out they should have hammered it and made it clear. They didn’t. Instead they let an expert punch all kinds of holes in their cell phone data.
If I am ever charged with murder then I hope you are on the jury! Unless of course there is video evidence and two eye witnesses!
Seriously, what would they need for you to say they had enough evidence? No flame but just curious.
I think if he beats the murder charges then he will be out in ten years.
I’m not entirely certain as a juror what I would need to convict. That’s not my burden. That burden belongs to the state and for me they haven’t proven beyond reasonable doubt he did it or even why he would have done it. In fact the defense almost did a better job of proving motive with their witness yesterday.
The prosecution was dealt a bad hand by the way law enforcement handled everything. In fact the way law enforcement handled this makes me believe they were trying to make sure proper steps weren’t followed and evidence gathered.
I can’t bring any pre conceived notions into the courtroom. I have to go based on the information given to me in the courtroom. That’s the only way our system is fair.
You didn't respond to my post yesterday where you stated he's a "pathological liar," but maybe you will today.
Keep in mind that the state does not have to prove motive. They've clearly done so, but they don't have to. And you just admitted that the defense "almost did a better job of proving motive with their witness yesterday," lol. I agree with you.
So the state has shown Maggie was shot with the same 300 blackout that is missing and had been fired at various places on the property previous to the murders. The state has shown Alex was with Maggie and Paul at 8:45 and they are dead at or near 8:50. The state has shown Alex lied to LE, friends, and family about being at the kennels with them. They've shown he lied about taking a nap. They've shown he lied about why Maggie came to Moselle in the first place. They've shown he never checked their pulse and could not have done so in the 17 seconds between arriving at kennels and calling 911.
How do you not convict? Do you need video of him shooting them? Do you need the 300 blackout? I'm honestly fascinated by anyone who wouldn't convict right now. Appreciate your thoughts.
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Possibly, but the feds still haven’t charged him with anything yet, correct? I think they are holding back in the hopes that he rots in regular prison.
He obviously needs a video of Alex pulling the trigger and then handing the weapons directly to SLED.
I think they will have to prosecute him on the financial crimes even if he is found guilty of murder, because so many people were affected by what he did. But, if he is already in jail, there will be a plea bargain and it will likely never go to trial.
My question to the people who are hung about the guns not being found is what would you do with them if they were found? They know the ballistics says those were the guns used based off the spend shells, they know that Alex Murdaugh bought the guns and they know they were widely used all around the property.
What other evidence would you really get off of them? Fingerprints? The defense would concede that and say of course they were on there, they were his guns. It really is shocking to me how some people simply refuse to connect the dots.
Should he? Sure. Will he? Who knows what happens between now and then.
It's a setting under Display & Brightness "Raise to Wake"
Does this open the door to Maggie confronting Paul, Paul shooting Maggie and AM shooting Paul in retaliatory self defense?
Based on the evidence presented, the only scenario I see where Alec wasn’t the trigger man is that he had someone do it but he set everything up for the perfect crime. “Someone came on the dark dangerous Moselle property to commit a crime without a gun” because it was prearranged where the guns would be for them. They wore gloves or booties or a full black gorilla suit, I don’t know. Then they fled thru the woods/swamp to be undetected, to a waiting getaway car that was stationed somewhere else.
But I don’t believe I’m any of that, with any reasonable doubt, because there are so many factors of what would’ve had to go right in order to pull it all off. Namely, Alec getting both of them down by the kinnil at just the right time and right positioning while the 12 year old in the gorilla suit was hiding behind a tree.
The level is “reasonable doubt,” not zero doubt or show me the video or have a confession. All of these other “what if maybe” scenarios are riddled with a ridiculous level of reasonable doubt (at best) while the prosecution’s actual case is not (though it should be picked apart to find if reasonable doubt exists).
What’s more plausible- a 5’2” drug mule snuck onto the property to execute a mother and son who just happened to be there (without bringing a weapon) OR of the 3 people proven to be at the kennels, 2 are dead and 1 is not…and that 1 has a million things wrong.
But I don’t believe I’m any of that, with any reasonable doubt, because there are so many factors of what would’ve had to go right in order to pull it all off. Namely, Alec getting both of them down by the kinnil at just the right time and right positioning while the 12 year old in the gorilla suit was hiding behind a tree.
The level is “reasonable doubt,” not zero doubt or show me the video or have a confession. All of these other “what if maybe” scenarios are riddled with a ridiculous level of reasonable doubt (at best) while the prosecution’s actual case is not (though it should be picked apart to find if reasonable doubt exists).
What’s more plausible- a 5’2” drug mule snuck onto the property to execute a mother and son who just happened to be there (without bringing a weapon) OR of the 3 people proven to be at the kennels, 2 are dead and 1 is not…and that 1 has a million things wrong.
He will definitely be prosecuted for the financial crimes. All the charges I've seen have been from the state. I could be wrong about that, but seems like the feds are content to see what he gets from the state and then come in if it's not good enough.
Glad you could join the party, Larry! The only podcasts I listen to are the ones related to this trial and the dub cast!
