and there is nothing clemson could do to make you say differently, is there? or would a 17 point win while forcing tua to throw 3 picks be enough? and no im predicting that
Any one see Ed Oliver acting like
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Dang so you attended Clemson, ride Bama’s bandwagon & now claiming to be a yankee??
I love the south. I’m going to move down south at some point. I think Clemson is a solid school and I received a solid education, even though the business school does leaves something to be desired, but I was referring to the education I received as a kid through high school. My high school academic experience was much more difficult and stressful than my college academic experience, relative to the learning level I was at each stage. I’ll never forget going to an open house at Paul VI in 8th grade and listening to some alumni talk about how well prepared they were for college and that it was a breeze compared to PVI. I rolled my eyes at the time, but it couldn’t have ended up being more true.
That’s not true either. Based off what we know at this time, @okclem ‘s statement is ridiculous. But things can change.
well i grew up in columbia, sc and had the exact same experience so its not the whole south...follow the poverty and follow the educational shortfalls
i was asking you a question ..and you answered...if clemson does somehow look convincing beating bama, you might concede they are the better team? btw, i felt clemson was better in 2015 and bama was better in 2016 so i get what you are saying
I did answer. I was responding to your first question which means that my answer was saying that your scenario would change my mind
Of course. I just don’t see the point in stating the obvious that there are always exceptions to every rule or generalization. There were many southerners I knew at Clemson who were very intelligent and also a good amount who I thought shouldn’t be allowed in a community college, let alone Clemson.
I don’t disagree. But I would say that’s true of a lot of places across the country.
How is that an excuse? I guess you think that UMBC was a better team than UVA last March. Of course you don’t. They were just better on that night
How did you come to that conclusion?
You need to be committed for your own safety.
We would have removed him physically if he had pulled this on our team. This attitude don’t fly, just doesn’t.
I'm kind of disappointed that this thread got moved to the round table. I wonder which late night mod pulled the trigger on that? I bet it wasn't Ard...
Ha! I just saw in another thread that you're a millennial, @NovaTiger77. That explains everything, the know it all mindset, the condescension, the front running, etc. You're just a friggin idiot kid.
If you would like a friendly wager that Oliver doesn't go in the top 10 I'm interested.
I'll take he goes in the Top 10 picks.
I'll think about that. But in the meantime would you be interested in a wager saying that someone who has 1st round talent slips to the 2 nd of 3rd round because of character issues?
Some very valid points and should be weighed in. I'm just not sure I've seen a bigger playmaker as a DT than Donald was in college. Just seems on another level IMO. Shoot he's been in the league only 4 years. He's been to the Pro Bowl all 4 years and was selected as a 1st team All Pro 3 of the 4 seasons. Rookie of year and Defensive Player of the year already. I'm not sure we'll see another DT have this kind of impact in college and so early in their NFL career for quite awhile.
Obviously it can happen because it did with Tunsil. Do you think he would have fell as far as he did if it didn't happen right before the draft and teams didn't have time to vet the information? I don't know, but I think not.
Nkemdiche is another who fell. I would argue though their red flags were much worse than Oliver. Oliver just got pissed at treatment, both of Tunsil and Nkemdiche had drug issues. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think teams shy away from that more. If teams were truly concerned about character issues they wouldn't draft a player period. Not just draft him later.
Again in Oliver's case It will be vetted by teams. He may fall a few spots, but no way he falls out of the first round.
Sure it can but when you make claims like smoking weed is worse than threatening someone, I can't take you seriously
