Dexter is coming on strong. Everyone else will be vying for second place
Any one see Ed Oliver acting like
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Maybe, but I don't think the NFL cares whether college players care about their team. All they care about is whether they'll play hard and play well for the money they're going to give them. It would be nice if NFL teams cared more about how committed to their college teams their prospects are, but NFL teams are just about the bottom line. That's part of why I'm much more into college sports, and hate to see guys like Oliver who are singularly focused on playing professionally, tot he point of skipping half their last season.
He should kick him off the team. Period
I don't see how he leaves him on the team if he wants to maintain control, but you see what that was about now right? He didn't care about the jacket policy, he wants him to play.
Just here to say Oliver is better than Lawrence/Wilkins.
And to all the "he plays against scrubs" takes, see Louisville 2016. Oliver completely wrecked the guy that rang up 1000 yds against Wilkins and co.
He was also a bitch for taking a jacket meant for the team that was playing and getting pissed when he didn't get his way.
And to all the "he plays against scrubs" takes, see Louisville 2016. Oliver completely wrecked the guy that rang up 1000 yds against Wilkins and co.
He was also a bitch for taking a jacket meant for the team that was playing and getting pissed when he didn't get his way.
My question is this: If the guy refuses to play why has he not been suspended from the team. Why was he even on the sideline. He should not have been allowed in the stadium unless he bought a ticket.
I don't think you can really separate the two things, since the reason he wasn't supposed to be wearing the jacket is that he wasn't playing. Still, Applewhite is encouraging Oliver's behavior by keeping him on the team on the off-chance Oliver decides he wants to play.
Oliver being great and also playing against scrubs are not mutually exclusive realities. Yes he played great against Louisville in 2016, but that is not a valid sample size to draw any kind of meaningful conclusion. My argument isn't that Oliver would struggle playing in the power 5, but rather that Wilkins and Lawrence would both put up similar numbers to Oliver playing in Houston's conference.
Nah the ACC isn't as pathetic as the American, even though it does have some bad teams, and I'm also not just talking about this season, I'm talking about the 2-3 before it as well.
My hunch is that Applewhite isn't going to kick him off the team because that could possibly damage his draft stock. He's being diplomatic by allowing the biggest punk bitch to ever play college football to remain on the team, despite the fact that he is a selfish, punk bitch quitter.
They both weigh more, and despite that weight, they move freakishly quick. This is especially true for Lawrence. You would be hard pressed to find a DT of his size that possesses his quickness. With Wilkins is about his quickness and his motor. I have no clue if either are stronger than Oliver....I'm sure they are all about the same in that area.
This may be a moot point because Oliver might not be comparable to Wilkins/Lawrence considering Oliver isn't big enough to play DT in the NFL IMO. He might be listed as a DE.
I tend to think that Lawrence ends up going Top 5 after the combine. His quickness and agility for a man of 330 pounds is not normal.
Saw this transpire in real time last might, which initially had me like @BAnksMcFadden and all "punk ass bitch." It sparked a convo in my fam, though. I have zero problem w/ a dude not wanting to risk his body, but imo, that dude needs to completely walk away from the team and the school. No more scholarship at that point. No more hanging out w/ the team. No more of whatever benefits the players are entitled to. And certainly no more jackets. JMO.
Oliver cost himself some money last night. Showing your butt on t.v. to your head coach will hurt. Scouts will interview HC's and they can hurt players stock in more ways than one, commitment, coach ability, drive, coaches can undermine a players natural ability.
I'm not saying Applewhite WILL do that but he may not have to after last night. That can not be dismissed as "dawg" in a player or will to win...that was insubordination.
I remember years ago Les Miles at LSU put up a sign to scouts that if they were here to talk about certain players...don't bother!
http://thecomeback.com/crystalballr...iles-uses-a-sign-to-call-out-his-players.html
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You're forgetting that @NovaTiger77 is an Elite Bammer Fan and that makes him the authority on all college football talent.
Tebow just mentioned on First Take that both guys were in the wrong in his opinion. Said they should have enough jackets for everyone, lol.
He went on to say it's a bad look for Applewhite and recruiting. Then said he wouldn't want to play for him - he would want to play for Dabo. Said Dabo has the players backs and mentioned the Kelly Bryant situation. Doing things the right way pays off.
He went on to say it's a bad look for Applewhite and recruiting. Then said he wouldn't want to play for him - he would want to play for Dabo. Said Dabo has the players backs and mentioned the Kelly Bryant situation. Doing things the right way pays off.
He didnt recruit the punk ass bitch he was
RECRUITED BY Tom Herman, asst coaches Meekins and Giles.
Applewhite was stuck with the entitled little snot. He should kick his ass
off the team immediately!
LOL you really are a punk ass little snot. How about a little bet that Clemson wins the National Title? Here's the bet: If Clemson wins the title you will never come back here and you will ask Cris Ard to perma ban you forever. If Bammer wins the title I'll do the same.
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He will never get passed on. Supreme talent always out weighs red flags/character issues in the NFL. I make that statement in general and not as an assumption on Oliver. I have never really heard of major issues with him prior and don't care to research. If this is the first incident he had, then teams want care.
I will say he was in the wrong for taking a jacket from one of his teammates that was playing. If that is the facts. If he was asked to remove the jacket and refused, then I give the coach more leeway in jerking the jacket off of him. What's the coach supposed to do say pretty please with sugar on top.
It's a little concerning for top players with nothing left to play for and quitting. I understand the financial decision and can't deny that decision.
Should the player remain with the team? How do the players feel? Is it a distraction of is he going to play isn't he going to play?
After putting in 3-4 years has earned the right to do anything he wants, even if it's a distraction to the team?
I almost think Applewhite should come out, say Oliver is no longer with the team, thank him for always being a great teammate and student athlete, and that he has bright future ahead of him in the NFL and wishes him well as he prepares for the next stage of his life. maybe even state the incident on the sideline was handled poorly by everyone involved and is not indicative of the coaches or Ed's character and again wish him the best.
Fine, so 1 game isn't a good sample size.
He also played against Oklahoma in 2016 and had 2 sacks and 7 tackles.
So against the last two Heisman winners - which also happen to be two of the most difficult QB's to tackle in recent memory - you've got a DT that's averaging 2 sacks, 2.5 tackles per loss, and 6.5 tackles per game. That is absolutely sick.
The other thing about Oliver is that he's the only one getting any significant attention on that line and he's still racking up ridiculous stats. We can say Dex gets double teamed so his impact doesn't show up in the stats. Oliver gets double teamed and he still puts up ridiculous stats. Wilkins gets the benefit of playing next to Dex and still can't put up anywhere near Oliver's stats.
Dex is a more prototypical DT in the NFL so I can see a scenario (albeit unlikely) where he gets drafted earlier but to say either one of our guys is a better collegiate player than Ed Oliver is absurd. Y'all need to take off the glasses on this one.
dont mind nova...he is the self proclaimed smartest man in the room
this is all i was trying to say...ive gone on record saying Oliver (had he not gotten hurt) might have deserved to be in NYC with his play, however I might draft Lawrence before him
If you don't understand that the HC is in a position of authority I don't know what to tell you. LMFAO at "undress someone like that ...". Everyone has an opinion, but sorry my friend you are absolutely wrong ITT.
Aaron Donald is 6’1 280. Jon Allen is 6’3 290 (he’s a DT in a 4-man front) - exact same size as Oliver. Geno Atkins is 6’1 300. Grady Jarrett is 6’0 300. Malik Jackson is 6’5 290. Damion Square is 6’2 293. You want me to keep going? Thought so.
LOL you really are a punk ass little snot. How about a little bet that Clemson wins the National Title? Here's the bet: If Clemson wins the title you will never come back here and you will ask Cris Ard to perma ban you forever. If Bammer wins the title I'll do the same.
Please tell me you are serious. Not that it matters because you’ll just join under a different username.
level with me, how many times have you had your ass beat?Hard to refute that fact
