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Biden Inches Closer to WWIII: US Troops on Ukraine-Romania Border in “Combat Deployment” Prepare to Invade and Fight Russian Forces in Ukraine

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This is insanity in progress.


By Kristinn Taylor
Published October 23, 2022 at 3:30pm
A report by CBS News this past week shows the Biden administration has about 4,700 U.S. troops with the 101st Airborne Division near the Ukraine border in Romania holding live fire exercises with the NATO ally, practicing ground and air assaults in preparation for invading Ukraine and fighting Russian forces there.
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The war game comes at the same time that NATO is holding a long-planned nuclear war exercise in Europe as concerns about a wider war increase.
Earlier this week British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace made an emergency flight to Washington where he met with Biden officials about the war in Ukraine.
Following that visit a sudden uptick in contact between Russia and NATO took place this week, with two phone calls (Friday and Sunday) between Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. Shoigu also spoke to NATO defense chiefs in the UK, France and Turkey on Sunday (excerpt via Reuters):
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Moscow provided no details on the conversation with Austin, which came after the two men spoke on Friday for the first time since May. Its readouts on the other calls said Shoigu had said the situation in Ukraine was worsening.
“They discussed the situation in Ukraine which is rapidly deteriorating,” the Russian defence ministry said of Shoigu’s call with French Defence Minister Sebastien Lecornu. “It is trending towards further uncontrolled escalation.”
Other reports on the calls say Shoigu warned of a dirty bomb attack by Ukraine. That warning is being taken as Russian propaganda laying the groundwork for a Russian false flag attack.



CBS reporter Charlie D’Agata embedded with the 101st Airborne Division in Romania for the exercises and also accompanied officers on a helicopter flight over the Black Sea coast.
Brigadier General John Lubas, the division’s Deputy Commander, told D’Agata on camera this is a “combat deployment”.
Excerpt:
Mihail Kogălniceanu, Romania — The U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division has been deployed to Europe for the first time in almost 80 years amid soaring tension between Russia and the American-led NATO military alliance. The light infantry unit, nicknamed the “Screaming Eagles,” is trained to deploy on any battlefield in the world within hours, ready to fight.
CBS News joined the division’s Deputy Commander, Brigadier General John Lubas, and Colonel Edwin Matthaidess, Commander of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, on a Black Hawk helicopter for the hour-long ride to the very edge of NATO territory — only around three miles from Romania’s border with Ukraine.
…”We’re ready to defend every inch of NATO soil,” Lubas told CBS News. “We bring a unique capability, from our air assault capability… We’re a light infantry force, but again, we bring that mobility with us, for our aircraft and air assaults.”
Skirting northward along Romania’s Black Sea coast, the Black Hawk eventually touched down at a forward operating site where U.S. and Romanian troops were pounding targets during a joint ground and air assault exercise.
The tank rounds and artillery fire were real. The drill was meant to recreate the battles Ukraine’s forces are fighting every day against Russian troops, just across the border. The war games so close to that border are a clear message to Russia and to America’s NATO allies, that the U.S. Army is here.
..The “Screaming Eagles” commanders told CBS News repeatedly that they are always “ready to fight tonight,” and while they’re there to defend NATO territory, if the fighting escalates or there’s any attack on NATO, they’re fully prepared to cross the border into Ukraine.
Video report:



This version has different language and the comment by Gen. Lubas on ‘combat deployment’:
D’Agata described the war games as, “A drill designed to replicate the exact battle conditions in Ukraine”
Gen. Lubas, “Yeah. this is not a training deployment, this is a combat deployment for us. We understand that we need to be ready to fight tonight depending on how the situation escalates across the border.”


In this update on Sunday, D’Agata included a clip of Lubas saying he was ready to deploy to the frontlines in Ukraine 250 miles away, “We’re about two-hundred and fifty miles from the front line of Russian troops. Uh, and the way we are dispersed right now we are ready to transition from our current locations where we’re currently at to combat operations on order.”


D’Agata noted the 101st has moved its headquarters to Romania, the first time their HQ has been stationed in Europe since World War Two.
 
This is insanity in progress.


By Kristinn Taylor
Published October 23, 2022 at 3:30pm
A report by CBS News this past week shows the Biden administration has about 4,700 U.S. troops with the 101st Airborne Division near the Ukraine border in Romania holding live fire exercises with the NATO ally, practicing ground and air assaults in preparation for invading Ukraine and fighting Russian forces there.
US-Troops-Romania-Ukraine-Border-Screen-Image-CBS-News-10212022-e1666554728556.jpg

The war game comes at the same time that NATO is holding a long-planned nuclear war exercise in Europe as concerns about a wider war increase.
Earlier this week British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace made an emergency flight to Washington where he met with Biden officials about the war in Ukraine.
Following that visit a sudden uptick in contact between Russia and NATO took place this week, with two phone calls (Friday and Sunday) between Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. Shoigu also spoke to NATO defense chiefs in the UK, France and Turkey on Sunday (excerpt via Reuters):
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Other reports on the calls say Shoigu warned of a dirty bomb attack by Ukraine. That warning is being taken as Russian propaganda laying the groundwork for a Russian false flag attack.



CBS reporter Charlie D’Agata embedded with the 101st Airborne Division in Romania for the exercises and also accompanied officers on a helicopter flight over the Black Sea coast.
Brigadier General John Lubas, the division’s Deputy Commander, told D’Agata on camera this is a “combat deployment”.
Excerpt:

Video report:



This version has different language and the comment by Gen. Lubas on ‘combat deployment’:
D’Agata described the war games as, “A drill designed to replicate the exact battle conditions in Ukraine”
Gen. Lubas, “Yeah. this is not a training deployment, this is a combat deployment for us. We understand that we need to be ready to fight tonight depending on how the situation escalates across the border.”


In this update on Sunday, D’Agata included a clip of Lubas saying he was ready to deploy to the frontlines in Ukraine 250 miles away, “We’re about two-hundred and fifty miles from the front line of Russian troops. Uh, and the way we are dispersed right now we are ready to transition from our current locations where we’re currently at to combat operations on order.”


D’Agata noted the 101st has moved its headquarters to Romania, the first time their HQ has been stationed in Europe since World War Two.
US troops showing solidarity with a NATO ally. Nothing more. It's the right thing to do.
 
US troops showing solidarity with a NATO ally. Nothing more. It's the right thing to do.
I think its putting the dynamite too close to the fire. First time in 80 years that a US division has been on the ground in that part of the world.
 
I think its putting the dynamite too close to the fire. First time in 80 years that a US division has been on the ground in that part of the world.
The "fire" is a very mentally unstable Putin. It'd be better not to stoke this fire in this manner. 🔥
 
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I can’t wait for dictator Putin either!
If Putin detonates, not sure there's a world left in which he can be a dictator. If stories of Putin being terminally ill are true, then he has the weapons to take the world out if he decides he's ready to go. If f the USA is taken out, Biden better retatalite because it would be a crime to leave the vestiges of the world under the control of Russia, who started this unnecessary showdown.
 
If Putin detonates, not sure there's a world left in which he can be a dictator. If stories of Putin being terminally ill are true, then he has the weapons to take the world out if he decides he's ready to go. If f the USA is taken out, Biden better retatalite because it would be a crime to leave the vestiges of the world under the control of Russia, who started this unnecessary showdown.
Go Putin Go! Have you picked up your simple russian phrase book yet? Amazon really does have everything.

Amazon product ASIN 1523763590
 
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Ukraine keeps pushing them back. Russia may get some gains here and there but Ukraine has come back swinging each time. Don't think we will get anymore involved than we already are. Give them the means to fight and dammit they are fighting.
 
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I think its putting the dynamite too close to the fire. First time in 80 years that a US division has been on the ground in that part of the world.
First time in 80 years we've needed to send a signal that we will stand by Romania.

A Russian pilot fired on a UK Rivet Joint in the Black Sea a couple of weeks ago.
 
Go Putin Go! Have you picked up your simple russian phrase book yet? Amazon really does have everything.

You know this is real funny considering it was you dems that hired a Russian to come up with dirt on Trump.

Your boy Obama did everything he could to buddy up to Putin at the US Expense. Including not putting a missile defense system in Europe, allowing Putin to sell the SA-300 to Iran, not calling out Russia on cyber attacks, and giving Putin a chip in the game in Syria. But I guess you've forgotten all of this.
 
You know this is real funny considering it was you dems that hired a Russian to come up with dirt on Trump.

Your boy Obama did everything he could to buddy up to Putin at the US Expense. Including not putting a missile defense system in Europe, allowing Putin to sell the SA-300 to Iran, not calling out Russia on cyber attacks, and giving Putin a chip in the game in Syria. But I guess you've forgotten all of this.
And then trump called Putin a genius. Blew his load all over thinking about setting up a dictatorship in America. I wonder that is the failure that will haunt him to his oversized grave?
 
MacGregor goes after Petraeus


Playing at War in Ukraine​

Congress should signal its readiness to invoke the War Powers Act, while demanding that the Biden administration broker peace.

Douglas Macgregor
Oct 24, 20221:00 PM
As the astute author Hunter S. Thompson noted, “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” Weird is indisputably the condition in Great Britain, where Liz Truss, an arguably empty and talentless prime minister, is out—and was, it seemed for a moment, very nearly replaced by her vacuous predecessor, Boris Johnson.
Weirdness, however, is not foreign to American politics. An indicator of just how weird Washington is becoming is the apparent interest in General (ret.) David Petraeus’s recent suggestion that Washington and its allies may want to intervene in the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kiev.
According to Petraeus, the military action he advocates would not be a NATO intervention, but “a multinational force led by the US and not as a NATO force.” In other words, a U.S.-led Multi-National Force on the Iraq model composed of conventional ground, air, and naval forces.
Petraeus does not explain why U.S. military action is needed. But it’s not hard to guess. The intervention is designed to rescue Ukrainian forces from defeat and presumably compel Moscow to negotiate on Washington’s terms, whatever those terms might be.
Admittedly, the whole business seems weird, but Petraeus’s suggestion should not be dismissed. Not because Petraeus’s military expertise warrants consideration—it doesn’t. Rather it merits attention because Petraeus would never make such a recommendation unless he was urged to do so by powerful figures in Washington and on Wall Street. And as Jeffrey Sachs tells Americans, globalist and neocon elites clearly want a direct armed confrontation with Russia.
For Petraeus, it is business as usual. He rose through the ranks by checking with everyone in a position of authority above him before doing anything. Seeking permission to ensure no one in authority is offended (like a “coalition of the willing”) is key to promotion. It works well in peacetime, or during wars of choice against weak, incapable enemies that present no existential military threat to Western forces. But Ukraine is not Iraq nor is the Russian Army an Iraqi-like force, or mounted on “technicals”—pickup trucks with automatic cannon.
These points notwithstanding, Petraeus’s suggestion confirms two critical insights. First, the perilous state of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Absent the foreign fighters and Polish soldiers fighting in Ukrainian uniform, Ukraine has little left to withstand the Russian winter offensives. The series of Ukrainian counterattacks over the last 60 to 90 days have cost Ukraine tens of thousands of lives, human capital in uniform that Kiev cannot replace.
Second, it is the 11th hour. The Russian sledgehammer scheduled to fall on the Zelensky regime in the November or December timeframe, or whenever the ground freezes, will crush whatever remains of Ukrainian forces.
In other words, Petraeus’s real message is that the only way to prolong the life of the Zelensky regime is for Washington and its coalition of the willing to intervene directly before it's too late. The usual war hawks in the White House, the Pentagon, the CIA, and on the Hill probably assume that a quiescent American electorate will buy the argument that the commitment of U.S. forces in Ukraine without a declaration of war could facilitate a face-saving deal with Moscow.
It's dangerous and stupid to think so, and Americans should reject this notion, but it’s not unreasonable to assume this deluded thinking is prevalent inside the beltway. George F. Kennan, American diplomat and historian, insisted 30 years ago that, “We [Americans] tend to overemphasize military factors at the expense of political ones, and in consequence, overmilitarize our responses.” The result, Kennan argued, is Washington’s chronic failure to relate the development and use of American military power to attainable ends of national strategy.
In Washington’s halls of power, the “going in” assumption always presupposes certain conditions: a subservient Congress that will ignore its responsibility to invoke the War Powers Act, unconstrained financial resources for military action, and senior military leaders ready to comply with whatever dumb idea the politicians in charge advocate. For Petraeus and his peers there is also the high probability that some tangible reward is promised in the form of future appointments or financial gain.
The questions of how much ground combat operations in Eastern Europe and Ukraine would demand in terms of U.S. manpower, logistical infrastructure, ammunition, medical support, and evacuation are relegated to secondary consideration. For example, in the 11 months after the landings in Normandy, when the U.S. Army was sustaining 90-100,000 casualties a month, the divisions that landed at Normandy replaced 100-300 percent of their fighting strength.

The commitment of U.S. ground forces to battle combined with the dispersion of U.S. military power at the end of a 5,000-mile lifeline across Ukraine, an area the size of Texas, will unavoidably weaken and dissipate the attacking army’s fighting strength. Finally, Petraeus’s critical assumption that President Putin wants to avoid a larger war is no doubt valid, but this assumption should not be interpreted to mean the Russian military opponent will treat U.S. bases in Western Europe or U.S. warships transiting the Atlantic as inviolate. Moscow enjoys escalation dominance, not Washington.
As noted at the beginning, weirdness in politics is not a new phenomenon. Then again, Petraeus’s remarks signal something far more troubling than mere weirdness. The intellectual and professional caliber of America’s senior military leaders is deplorable. In his landmark work, August 1914, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn described Aleksandr Samsonov, the Russian general who at the beginning of the war was renowned as the leading strategist of the Russian Army: “The truth was that his forehead was solid bone, his mind moved at a snail’s pace, and the thoughts that passed through it were worthless.” Solzhenitsyn’s words were harsh, but not inaccurate.
In Ukraine going forward, Washington’s path is clear. Congress should do its duty and signal its readiness to invoke the War Powers Act, while also demanding that the Biden administration broker peace, not expand the war.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR​

Douglas Macgregor​

Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran, and the author of five books.
 
MacGregor goes after Petraeus


Playing at War in Ukraine​

Congress should signal its readiness to invoke the War Powers Act, while demanding that the Biden administration broker peace.

Douglas Macgregor
Oct 24, 20221:00 PM
As the astute author Hunter S. Thompson noted, “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” Weird is indisputably the condition in Great Britain, where Liz Truss, an arguably empty and talentless prime minister, is out—and was, it seemed for a moment, very nearly replaced by her vacuous predecessor, Boris Johnson.
Weirdness, however, is not foreign to American politics. An indicator of just how weird Washington is becoming is the apparent interest in General (ret.) David Petraeus’s recent suggestion that Washington and its allies may want to intervene in the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kiev.
According to Petraeus, the military action he advocates would not be a NATO intervention, but “a multinational force led by the US and not as a NATO force.” In other words, a U.S.-led Multi-National Force on the Iraq model composed of conventional ground, air, and naval forces.
Petraeus does not explain why U.S. military action is needed. But it’s not hard to guess. The intervention is designed to rescue Ukrainian forces from defeat and presumably compel Moscow to negotiate on Washington’s terms, whatever those terms might be.
Admittedly, the whole business seems weird, but Petraeus’s suggestion should not be dismissed. Not because Petraeus’s military expertise warrants consideration—it doesn’t. Rather it merits attention because Petraeus would never make such a recommendation unless he was urged to do so by powerful figures in Washington and on Wall Street. And as Jeffrey Sachs tells Americans, globalist and neocon elites clearly want a direct armed confrontation with Russia.
For Petraeus, it is business as usual. He rose through the ranks by checking with everyone in a position of authority above him before doing anything. Seeking permission to ensure no one in authority is offended (like a “coalition of the willing”) is key to promotion. It works well in peacetime, or during wars of choice against weak, incapable enemies that present no existential military threat to Western forces. But Ukraine is not Iraq nor is the Russian Army an Iraqi-like force, or mounted on “technicals”—pickup trucks with automatic cannon.
These points notwithstanding, Petraeus’s suggestion confirms two critical insights. First, the perilous state of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Absent the foreign fighters and Polish soldiers fighting in Ukrainian uniform, Ukraine has little left to withstand the Russian winter offensives. The series of Ukrainian counterattacks over the last 60 to 90 days have cost Ukraine tens of thousands of lives, human capital in uniform that Kiev cannot replace.
Second, it is the 11th hour. The Russian sledgehammer scheduled to fall on the Zelensky regime in the November or December timeframe, or whenever the ground freezes, will crush whatever remains of Ukrainian forces.
In other words, Petraeus’s real message is that the only way to prolong the life of the Zelensky regime is for Washington and its coalition of the willing to intervene directly before it's too late. The usual war hawks in the White House, the Pentagon, the CIA, and on the Hill probably assume that a quiescent American electorate will buy the argument that the commitment of U.S. forces in Ukraine without a declaration of war could facilitate a face-saving deal with Moscow.
It's dangerous and stupid to think so, and Americans should reject this notion, but it’s not unreasonable to assume this deluded thinking is prevalent inside the beltway. George F. Kennan, American diplomat and historian, insisted 30 years ago that, “We [Americans] tend to overemphasize military factors at the expense of political ones, and in consequence, overmilitarize our responses.” The result, Kennan argued, is Washington’s chronic failure to relate the development and use of American military power to attainable ends of national strategy.
In Washington’s halls of power, the “going in” assumption always presupposes certain conditions: a subservient Congress that will ignore its responsibility to invoke the War Powers Act, unconstrained financial resources for military action, and senior military leaders ready to comply with whatever dumb idea the politicians in charge advocate. For Petraeus and his peers there is also the high probability that some tangible reward is promised in the form of future appointments or financial gain.
The questions of how much ground combat operations in Eastern Europe and Ukraine would demand in terms of U.S. manpower, logistical infrastructure, ammunition, medical support, and evacuation are relegated to secondary consideration. For example, in the 11 months after the landings in Normandy, when the U.S. Army was sustaining 90-100,000 casualties a month, the divisions that landed at Normandy replaced 100-300 percent of their fighting strength.

The commitment of U.S. ground forces to battle combined with the dispersion of U.S. military power at the end of a 5,000-mile lifeline across Ukraine, an area the size of Texas, will unavoidably weaken and dissipate the attacking army’s fighting strength. Finally, Petraeus’s critical assumption that President Putin wants to avoid a larger war is no doubt valid, but this assumption should not be interpreted to mean the Russian military opponent will treat U.S. bases in Western Europe or U.S. warships transiting the Atlantic as inviolate. Moscow enjoys escalation dominance, not Washington.
As noted at the beginning, weirdness in politics is not a new phenomenon. Then again, Petraeus’s remarks signal something far more troubling than mere weirdness. The intellectual and professional caliber of America’s senior military leaders is deplorable. In his landmark work, August 1914, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn described Aleksandr Samsonov, the Russian general who at the beginning of the war was renowned as the leading strategist of the Russian Army: “The truth was that his forehead was solid bone, his mind moved at a snail’s pace, and the thoughts that passed through it were worthless.” Solzhenitsyn’s words were harsh, but not inaccurate.
In Ukraine going forward, Washington’s path is clear. Congress should do its duty and signal its readiness to invoke the War Powers Act, while also demanding that the Biden administration broker peace, not expand the war.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR​

Douglas Macgregor​

Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran, and the author of five books.
forget all this. we should be sending arms to russia. that's the only way to make them happy and end this peacefully. you know, because that's what we care about.
 
You know this is real funny considering it was you dems that hired a Russian to come up with dirt on Trump.

Your boy Obama did everything he could to buddy up to Putin at the US Expense. Including not putting a missile defense system in Europe, allowing Putin to sell the SA-300 to Iran, not calling out Russia on cyber attacks, and giving Putin a chip in the game in Syria. But I guess you've forgotten all of this.

Obama, Obama, Obama. Black man bad. You have ODS!

I hope you realize the irony here. In any thread about the economy or inflation, you are always the guy blasting people for talking about trump. As if everything magically reset the day Biden took office. Now you are going two presidents back? It's almost as if you are admitting that current events could have been affected by the decisions of previous presidents.

The thing is, I don't disagree with you. Both Obama and trump showed pretty significant weakness when dealing with Putin. From Obama's "redline in syria" to trump's bending over and taking it in the @ss in Helsinki, they both had a hand in the events we are witnessing today.

I would argue that Biden has shown more resolve than either. And he is getting plenty of heat for it from the right. The same pubs that argued that we should have moved troops into Romania before Putin invaded will now attack Biden for doing it for partisan political points.

It is very sad that foreign policy is so politicized now. I didn't question trump for taking out Soleimani like others. I just assumed some pretty smart generals told him we needed to do it. It is sad that now republicans are literally taking russia's side in this conflict.

If Joe Biden thwarted a terrorist attack in times square by jumping out of a helicopter and plugging terrorists rambo style, fox news and tucker carlson would find a way to criticize it.
 
And then trump called Putin a genius. Blew his load all over thinking about setting up a dictatorship in America. I wonder that is the failure that will haunt him to his oversized grave?
If you are going to respond, at least come up with something pertinent. Trump calling Putin a "genius" pales in comparison with Obama the enabler and Dem's Russian collusion lie.
 
Obama, Obama, Obama. Black man bad. You have ODS!

I hope you realize the irony here. In any thread about the economy or inflation, you are always the guy blasting people for talking about trump. As if everything magically reset the day Biden took office. Now you are going two presidents back? It's almost as if you are admitting that current events could have been affected by the decisions of previous presidents.

The thing is, I don't disagree with you. Both Obama and trump showed pretty significant weakness when dealing with Putin. From Obama's "redline in syria" to trump's bending over and taking it in the @ss in Helsinki, they both had a hand in the events we are witnessing today.

I would argue that Biden has shown more resolve than either. And he is getting plenty of heat for it from the right. The same pubs that argued that we should have moved troops into Romania before Putin invaded will now attack Biden for doing it for partisan political points.

It is very sad that foreign policy is so politicized now. I didn't question trump for taking out Soleimani like others. I just assumed some pretty smart generals told him we needed to do it. It is sad that now republicans are literally taking russia's side in this conflict.

If Joe Biden thwarted a terrorist attack in times square by jumping out of a helicopter and plugging terrorists rambo style, fox news and tucker carlson would find a way to criticize it.
Trump, Trump, Trump. Rich man bad. You have ODS!

Biden's resolve? Or his handlers? Either way, it's pretty easy to do what Biden's done when there's a clear reason to bring sanctions on Putin.

I guess Trump doesn't get credit for any of his dozens of sanctions against Russia or counter Russian policies?

 
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Trump, Trump, Trump. Rich man bad. You have ODS!

Biden's resolve? Or his handlers? Either way, it's pretty easy to do what Biden's done when there's a clear reason to bring sanctions on Putin.

I guess Trump doesn't get credit for any of his dozens of sanctions against Russia or counter Russian policies?


Not surprising. You missed the point of my post.

Carry on.


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If you are going to respond, at least come up with something pertinent. Trump calling Putin a "genius" pales in comparison with Obama the enabler and Dem's Russian collusion lie.
you are all over the map today. you guys have been having a rough week. im seriously thinking about switching sides.
 
Not good.

 
Not good.

Almost like people can be trained to operate equipment. Who knew!
 
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