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Oh ok, so everyone can count votes in a timely manner except the dumbass Democrats. Got it

seriously. what are you talking about?

this is how the process works every cycle. Unsurprisingly, there were more mail-in ballots this cycle than ever before, and republicans blocked money that would have gone to states and local county clerks to help them staff up to count them. but other than that, you must be new to elections? this is basically how the process works every cycle.
 
I would say they rejected socialism and defunding the police, both of which are distortions of the positions of the vast majority of democrats. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out over the next 2-4 years in terms of actual policy and marketing.

which is to say they rejected whatever platform we thought would break through those distortions.
 
Not her biggest fan, but she doesn’t pretend to be a medical professional. She jokes about it. Not surprising that you don’t see that.
That is not true. I have been in more than one thread where she stated such.
 
Wow - just read your extremely condescending post. I don’t know “amyhop” or even care about what you idiots choose to argue about (you’re supporting crooks on each side of the aisle by the way - you naive fool). But to insult someone by putting down a whole group of professionals cause I guess they’re beneath you ? Wow. You must be some kind of giant dick. Engineer by your handle I guess? I’m impressed. I bet you’re real smart too. In addition to being an internet tough guy. What a dick.
If hes really an engineer hes probably an idiot like everyone I've ever had to deal with.
 
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Fair points but he acted like an 8 year old about it from day one and will never admit he screwed this up. Not many people voted for Biden. They voted against Trump. Even people that thought he did some positive things as president, myself included couldn’t stand to listen to or read after him. He’s a 74 year old 8 year old narcissistic egomaniac who never figured out how to control himself and talk about the issues when he had the opportunity.
And biden cant stop himself from sniffing little girls.
 
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Why has this not been moved yet? The deprogramming after a cult collapses is one of the most difficult phases. Unfortunately the media apparatus on the right has brainwashed their adherents to such agree they are resistant to letting the delusion go. No healing yet.
Oh now let's not start talking about a brainwashing media apparatus.
 
Fair points but he acted like an 8 year old about it from day one and will never admit he screwed this up. Not many people voted for Biden. They voted against Trump. Even people that thought he did some positive things as president, myself included couldn’t stand to listen to or read after him. He’s a 74 year old 8 year old narcissistic egomaniac who never figured out how to control himself and talk about the issues when he had the opportunity.
You always vote for policy over personality....ALWAYS...

Doesn't matter if you don't like him personally, his policies are what mattered...

Always vote for the "mean" guy with the solid policies that puts America first over the "nice" guy whos policies will run this country down the shitter....ALWAYS
 
When was the election on the verge of being called for Trump? Which network(s) were you watching, OAN? There was never a moment that any legitimate news service or broadcast network was on the verge of calling the race for Trump.
All networks were showing Trump's lead in several swing states widen becoming quite clear Trump was gonna win...
The Chinese yuan value dropped like a rock at that time & didn't recover until the next morning bc, ya know, 4 am ballot drops ...
A simple google search will confirm what I'm telling you...
 
All networks were showing Trump's lead in several swing states widen becoming quite clear Trump was gonna win...
The Chinese yuan value dropped like a rock at that time & didn't recover until the next morning bc, ya know, 4 am ballot drops ...
A simple google search will confirm what I'm telling you...
You can't make this kind of stupidity up!
 
All networks were showing Trump's lead in several swing states widen becoming quite clear Trump was gonna win...
The Chinese yuan value dropped like a rock at that time & didn't recover until the next morning bc, ya know, 4 am ballot drops ...
A simple google search will confirm what I'm telling you...

Do you just not understand how elections work?
 
Do you just not understand how elections work?
Yes, I do...it's the way we choose our political leaders...
However, we do it differently....
Republicans vote legitimately...
Democrats prefer to cheat...
Pretty simple process...
 
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i appreciate you trying to take a reasonable look at this, but you are wrong on both fronts here.

first, nothing stopped the trump campaign from doing the same thing they did in 2016. The innovative work they did in 2016 was to identify pain points and the types of messages that moved people by combining ad testing in facebook with data and information purchased about voters outside of Facebook. Then they ran hundreds of iterations of each until they found the one that worked. nobody had ever been that sophisticated with Facebook targeting before. The problem here, is that they didn't innovate again. Everyone does this now, not just the trump campaign, and dem campaigns had ready access to this same kind of data and testing that allows us to microtarget messages. All the way down to state leg campaigns. Nothing the social media companies did stopped us or the trump campaign from doing it again.

Debates don't win or lose elections. They are a partisan spectacle. They might make one group of voters more excited to vote for a candidate, but unless you absolutely have the worst night of your career, you arent losing based on a debate. I do think trump was bad, but I don't think it was nearly as bad as you are positing. He's never been presidential, the debate didn't change people's minds.

voters rejected the democratic platform across the country last week. But they also rejected donald trump. They had enough, and they didn't trust him to handle the pandemic. Its as simple as that. To be frank, without the pandemic, trump likely wins in a landslide.

I’m definitely not going to get into an argument with someone who does this for a living over the importance of televised presidential debates. That would be argumentative suicide!! Lol

but televised debates definitely play some role (albeit minor) in convincing or dissuading the independent voter to go one way or the other.

I think it was true with Kennedy/Nixon and I think it still is true today

With regard to social media, however, that is an area that I heavily engage in with my business. On a daily basis I find myself knee deep in social media trends and data analysis. It fascinates me how people can be persuaded or manipulated by this form of advertising

While I agree Dems learned how to effectively target the same people and in the same way that Trump did in 2016, the social media censorship guidelines that were recently imposed had a huge impact on Trumps ability to get his message across to independent voters.

when a very large portion of your social media posts are regularly taken down by the social media platforms it makes it very difficult to get your message across to any group of voters.

And those censorship guidelines were applied differently between Trump and the Dems.

And FTR i fall into the: “social media is not a public forum in the sense of legally determining whether free speech has been violated, so the platforms can do whatever they want” group

Trump needed to move faster in figuring out the rules and adapt and adjust accordingly which might have led him to pivot to another (albeit more expensive) form of advertising
 
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Switching out Russia for a China? Breitbart told you that. Or was it QAnon?

Trump era is over and the majority of the great nation have spoken!
#NotMyPresident

Am I doing it right? Or do I have to break a window & loot a local Dollar General as well??
 
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You always vote for policy over personality....ALWAYS...

Doesn't matter if you don't like him personally, his policies are what mattered...

Always vote for the "mean" guy with the solid policies that puts America first over the "nice" guy whos policies will run this country down the shitter....ALWAYS
And there is an extreme and Trump surpassed it with his personality. People voted against him, not for Biden
 
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And there is an extreme and Trump surpassed it with his personality. People voted against him, not for Biden
Doesn't matter...ALWAYS VOTE POLICY OVER PERSONALITY...ALWAYS.

Trump is a fighter & yes, he has a huge ego...but his policies are solid & put America first....& that's what we voted him in for...

But for all those people who voted against him...you reap what you sow. You got a "nice" politician that's about to put this country through the ringer...& if that somehow get control of the Senate, God help us...
 
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Doesn't matter...ALWAYS VOTE POLICY OVER PERSONALITY...ALWAYS.

Trump is a fighter & yes, he has a huge ego...but his policies are solid & put America first....& that's what we voted him in for...

But for all those people who voted against him...you reap what you sow. You got a "nice" politician that's about to put this country through the ringer...& if that somehow get control of the Senate, God help us...
He had every opportunity to tell everyone about those great policies that you mention but he chose to na-na-nee-boo-boo his opponent instead. I voted for him but I don’t feel sorry for him one bit. He did this to himself. He should have won in a landslide based on those policies you make mention of. I voted for him. He got beat by a corpse and an unqualified socialist.
 
I’m definitely not going to get into an argument with someone who does this for a living over the importance of televised presidential debates. That would be argumentative suicide!! Lol

but televised debates definitely play some role (albeit minor) in convincing or dissuading the independent voter to go one way or the other.

I think it was true with Kennedy/Nixon and I think it still is true today

With regard to social media, however, that is an area that I heavily engage in with my business. On a daily basis I find myself knee deep in social media trends and data analysis. It fascinates me how people can be persuaded or manipulated by this form of advertising

While I agree Dems learned how to effectively target the same people and in the same way that Trump did in 2016, the social media censorship guidelines that were recently imposed had a huge impact on Trumps ability to get his message across to independent voters.

when a very large portion of your social media posts are regularly taken down by the social media platforms it makes it very difficult to get your message across to any group of voters.

And those censorship guidelines were applied differently between Trump and the Dems.

And FTR i fall into the: “social media is not a public forum in the sense of legally determining whether free speech has been violated, so the platforms can do whatever they want” group

Trump needed to move faster in figuring out the rules and adapt and adjust accordingly which might have led him to pivot to another (albeit more expensive) form of advertising

if Trump didn’t lie so much he would but have so many censorship problems on Facebook. The guy just constantly lies. The sharpie on the hurricane map was the most absurd thing we saw, but there were many. Pretty much every day.
 
Doesn't matter...ALWAYS VOTE POLICY OVER PERSONALITY...ALWAYS.

Trump is a fighter & yes, he has a huge ego...but his policies are solid & put America first....& that's what we voted him in for...

But for all those people who voted against him...you reap what you sow. You got a "nice" politician that's about to put this country through the ringer...& if that somehow get control of the Senate, God help us...

boy you really got your panties in wad. My advice to you is you need to pace yourself. You will never make it though eight years of Biden and another eight years of Kamala if you don’t learn to relax.
 
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boy you really got your panties in wad. My advice to you is you need to pace yourself. You will never make it though eight years of Biden and another eight years of Kamala if you don’t learn to relax.
None of us would make it through that bud...you just don't realize it yet...
 
Fair points but he acted like an 8 year old about it from day one and will never admit he screwed this up. Not many people voted for Biden. They voted against Trump. Even people that thought he did some positive things as president, myself included couldn’t stand to listen to or read after him. He’s a 74 year old 8 year old narcissistic egomaniac who never figured out how to control himself and talk about the issues when he had the opportunity.
Well said. I'm glad I didn't vote for either one. Green Party had its appeal over these two freaks.
 
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I don't have a subscription to the National Enquirer
I'm sure you love CNN...check out their website...search Chinese yuan & read what happened to it overnight Tuesday night. Let's you know who the Communist nation is rooting for...here's a hint: it's not Republicans.
 
I'm sure you love CNN...check out their website...search Chinese yuan & read what happened to it overnight Tuesday night. Let's you know who the Communist nation is rooting for...here's a hint: it's not Republicans.
I did notice that the US Market futures are absolutely CRASHING to the news that Biden won. They're UP between 1.5% and 2.7%.
 
seriously. what are you talking about?

this is how the process works every cycle. Unsurprisingly, there were more mail-in ballots this cycle than ever before, and republicans blocked money that would have gone to states and local county clerks to help them staff up to count them. but other than that, you must be new to elections? this is basically how the process works every cycle.
Everyone gets the same funding and only Dumbocrats can’t fvcking count. That’s a fact!
 
I did notice that the US Market futures are absolutely CRASHING to the news that Biden won. They're UP between 1.5% and 2.7%.
I love how you keep dodging the Chinese yuan issue...
And NASDAQ futures were up more than that Tuesday night when it appeared like Trump was gonna be re-elected but nice try...
 
seriously. what are you talking about?

this is how the process works every cycle. Unsurprisingly, there were more mail-in ballots this cycle than ever before, and republicans blocked money that would have gone to states and local county clerks to help them staff up to count them. but other than that, you must be new to elections? this is basically how the process works every cycle.

But why were there more mail in ballots this year than ever before? I didn't request a mail-in, one was automatically sent to me because our governor didn't open up in person voting. Mail-in ballots were by request and most states required justification in every other election. So when you send out a mail in ballot to everyone in the state, you're overly dependent on a census or local state/county records having accurate data.

If I read your post correctly, you're suggesting that federal funding be allocated to states to staff up but the decisions for how voting will be carried out are made at the state level? So PA for example, decide to stretch out the deadline for counting weeks before the election and then need federal funding to actually pull it off? Republicans blocked funding because they wanted people to show up in person and vote. Much like those same mail-in voters showed up to celebrate the last two days and much like protesters took the streets all year.

We went from 4 years of constant Russian rigged election blasts to elections can't be rigged. I hope Trump concedes this week. In all honesty and sincerity, just end it and move on so some of you can collect your Biden prize and we can stop wasting tax dollars trying to prove dems cheated. Even with evidence, the outcome won't be flipped.

Trump should buy a media company (CNN just happens to be for sale) and spend the next 4 years running negative Biden stories, much like they did to him.
 
But why were there more mail in ballots this year than ever before? I didn't request a mail-in, one was automatically sent to me because our governor didn't open up in person voting. Mail-in ballots were by request and most states required justification in every other election. So when you send out a mail in ballot to everyone in the state, you're overly dependent on a census or local state/county records having accurate data.

If I read your post correctly, you're suggesting that federal funding be allocated to states to staff up but the decisions for how voting will be carried out are made at the state level? So PA for example, decide to stretch out the deadline for counting weeks before the election and then need federal funding to actually pull it off? Republicans blocked funding because they wanted people to show up in person and vote. Much like those same mail-in voters showed up to celebrate the last two days and much like protesters took the streets all year.

We went from 4 years of constant Russian rigged election blasts to elections can't be rigged. I hope Trump concedes this week. In all honesty and sincerity, just end it and move on so some of you can collect your Biden prize and we can stop wasting tax dollars trying to prove dems cheated. Even with evidence, the outcome won't be flipped.

Trump should buy a media company (CNN just happens to be for sale) and spend the next 4 years running negative Biden stories, much like they did to him.

Poor trump. He had the media against him while he was president. Obama and Biden never any news channel that ran constant negative stories about them... oh wait, what? Fox News was negative about Obama / Biden? The whole time? But Obama still granted interviews to them b/c he wasnt a huge pussy? And what? Trump led an unsubstantiated birtherism movement against Obama on Fox News? That doesnt sound right.

Poor little Trump. He is like most of you Trumpsters on this site. You can dish it out, but you cant take it.
 
Poor trump. He had the media against him while he was president. Obama and Biden never any news channel that ran constant negative stories about them... oh wait, what? Fox News was negative about Obama / Biden? The whole time? But Obama still granted interviews to them b/c he wasnt a huge pussy? And what? Trump led an unsubstantiated birtherism movement against Obama on Fox News? That doesnt sound right.

Poor little Trump. He is like most of you Trumpsters on this site. You can dish it out, but you cant take it.

And back to the name calling. Make no mistake, I can take it.

Offer still stands for beers in the city.
 
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