Who cares. Nike makes better athletic wear than any other company. It’s just like the people who say they won’t eat at Chick Fil A because of what they believe/support. You’re only cheating yourself.
Clemson and Nike...
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I’m sure Nike will be just fine without amynhop and G-man buying their Air Monarchs.
If being associated with CP and his bullshit hasn't hurt them yet, then this move isn't going to hurt them, either.
Hard to imagine getting rustled by something so irrelevant. I'm glad I have Nike stock and I'm also happy that Clemson is partnered with Nike. Best is the standard.
Do I agree with Nike's every move? No. Am I losing sleep over it? Hell no. Begging Clemson to cut ties with Nike over this is hilarious.
Do I agree with Nike's every move? No. Am I losing sleep over it? Hell no. Begging Clemson to cut ties with Nike over this is hilarious.
Not only is it unconscionable that Nike continues to sponsor CK, but also abominable that they sponsor the USWNT. The Nike USWNT Jersey may be shattering sales records but they certainly won’t get @92TigerME to buy one
Most sensitive fanbase...no, wait..I'll get on board...
And you know what is even worse and anti-american? Nike makes their shoes in China and cheap places outside the US with sweatshop labor that we and Nike exploit. Can you believe that??
Oh wait...one of the pillars of global 'free' trade is just this kind of anti-american practice...
I'm so confused and angry...
I have no problem with sticking up for what you believe in and voicing that. I just don’t understand why he was offended by these shoes? Why is he offended by the Betsy Ross flag? As Amy posted above, Obama had them at his inauguration.
That flag had nothing to do with racism. It’s like me being offended when I see a 100 year old barn that was standing while slavery was going on. Do we now burn down every single barn that’s standing that was built when slavery was happening? I just don’t get it.
That flag had nothing to do with racism. It’s like me being offended when I see a 100 year old barn that was standing while slavery was going on. Do we now burn down every single barn that’s standing that was built when slavery was happening? I just don’t get it.
The selective outrage is hilarious.
Buddy it’s not a hard concept. Police brutality is a problem. It’s an even bigger problem for the African-American demographic. Colin Kaepernick decides to peacefully protest by taking a knee during the national anthem to say “I can’t just blindly worship a country that continues to take no action when numerous unarmed African-Americans are killed by law enforcement year after year.”
You don’t like that because you think not blindly following the customs of the anthem means someone hates America. You think Colin Kaepernick is a POS because he took a peaceful and effective method to protest a blatant and continuous injustice in our country. He even consulted with veterans before doing so. To act like he has been reckless or inconsiderate in any way shape or form is simply ignorant.
So you can continue to think you’re some red-blooded, freedom-loving, picture perfect American and hate Kaepernick and anyone else who doesn’t like police killing unarmed black men. But the reality is YOU are the POS. YOU are the ignorant SOB who any decent person can’t stand when it comes to conversation about this topic. If you hate the guy who protests police brutality, I am forced to assume that you support police brutality.
Since that seems to be the case, I think I speak for most of the decent human beings on this forum when I say that YOU should boycott being a Clemson fan. You are an embarrassment to the fan base.
Came here to say something, but this one does it for me. Well-said.
I think we're (Clemson) of our 'apparel' making much of a difference, Sir.
With all due respect.
Have you ever taken the time to actually research the numbers of all of this police brutality on unarmed black men or have you watched a few cellphone videos on Facebook of people trying to get their “gotcha” moment??
My guess is the latter...
When you consider the millions of interactions police officers have with public on a daily basis, you’d find that the numbers are miniscule...but that doesn’t fit your narrative either...
Lmfao. You’re one of the biggest leftist snowflakes on the WZ
A ton of veterans out here buying Nike tho. Your uncle fought so people can get right in the face of the government and tell them they are horrible until they are satisfied that they fixed whatever it is they're mad about. Can't do that in China. Those citizens must really love their country to never question it. See what I did there?
At what number should we care? I don't want there to be one honestly. That one could be me. Problem is this isn't the same for you. You aren't afraid daily. I admit I'm assuming. I'm assuming because if you were afraid daily you wouldn't poo poo these numbers. I've never been armed but I've been pulled over an unbelievable amount of times with unbelievable explanations with unbelievable anger by officers. I'm terrified during those interactions because one false move will result in a death. Mine.
Doesn't have to be that way. I have not contributed to any of those interactions negatively, not one time. On a couple of occasions I believe my life was saved by another officer intervening. One day that officer won't be there and I'm dead and many of you will try and tell others that one thing I did wrong to get myself killed. Sorry but I don't want to die.
The vast majority of these interactions begin and end well. I have no doubt in my mind that this is true. But that makes me wonder why if the alternate is true why is it so hard to prosecute the bad ones in the minority that do bad things? I mean the standard that the majority has set by not killing unarmed black men should make us go harder after the ones giving the profession a bad name. But we strangely do the opposite. Justify this criminal behavior in the spirit of protecting the good ones? Makes no sense. Again, a completely innocent person like myself who has always operated with total respect of law enforcement should not be nearly as afraid as I am when I interact with them. I'm the guy who does exactly what the officer said when he says it AND I'm innocent and still get treated like crap. It gets old and I hate having to sacrifice my dignity as a man just to stay alive. Regularly. But I'll continue to bow down like I'm less than because I do want to stay alive and be there for my children. But it damn sure isn't right that any human being has to do that.
I say again, these ignorant SOB's want to disassemble this country and remake it in (for) their image. Full of K(r)aepernick and his group want to rip out the founding fathers of our nation because in their view it was a bunch of racists who founded this country, so that makes this county an illegitimate racist country/government.
Yes slavery was bad for any country on this planet. The principles of slavery in this nation were started by England, and helped along by France, Spain, and Portugal. And yes, the West African nations were selling captured peoples and selling them to the Europeans for profit. Not many want to acknowledge this. Yes we should have ended it when we became independent from England and we did not. There were several at the beginning who did want to end slavery, but they ended up backing away in compromise.
Here is where I will be a bit controversial, and I am not a racist. I am speaking strictly as an historian and genealogist. The institution of slavery is morally and biblically bad. It was an inhumane ideology, plain and simple. I (or no one) can come to this forum and effectively argue otherwise. But from the standpoint of a genealogist who traces generations, many African-American's would not be enjoying the benefits of the greatest nation on earth had their ancestors not endured the inhumane hardships of slavery. It is their ancestors who had to endure and struggle through this, seeing their children taken from them and sold to others, and working very hard and difficult tasks so that another could profit.
Again, I am in NO way minimizing the the struggles that those slaves and families had to endure. It was a horrible thing to have to endure physically and emotionally. What I am saying as a genealogist is, rather that bashing this nation and its founding, many should be appreciative for what their ancestors had to sacrifice so that they could be where they are today. Even today many African nations are dealing with famine, disease, civil wars, and despots killing (slaughtering) thousands of their own people.
I am not African-American, but as a genealogist, and seeing the slave records, seeing newspaper articles from the 1850/s and 1860's advertising the selling of slaves and the reward/bounty for the capture of runaway slaves, I appreciate what they had to endure, maybe even more than some who should.
Historically this premise is backed up. That is the premise I mentioned in which the slaves and what they had to endure paved the way for a better life today here in this country. Again I acknowledge that even after the Civil War African-American's were treated horribly and discriminated against. And women were to some degree too, not being allowed to vote, etc. But here we have at the very precipice of finally getting racial relationships better, we get these left-wing radical socialists setting this narrative that this nation and government should not be because of the sins of the past. I wonder how many of those you can look into the sins of their past and use the same principle(s)? So now in the minds of many they are going back themselves to the time of slavery and the time of post Civil War former slaves to tell the populace today that they are still enslaved and in chains? Thus erasing almost all of the gains that were made by the blood, sweat, and tears of many.
I hope that the African-American's can see that these socialists do not have their best interests in mind, but are using them and their heritage in order to dismantle this nation and everything that they and their ancestors have achieved. It is these socialist/fascists that are standing by waiting with the chains...
I say, "God bless America." And I am NOT sorry if that offends you!
Yes slavery was bad for any country on this planet. The principles of slavery in this nation were started by England, and helped along by France, Spain, and Portugal. And yes, the West African nations were selling captured peoples and selling them to the Europeans for profit. Not many want to acknowledge this. Yes we should have ended it when we became independent from England and we did not. There were several at the beginning who did want to end slavery, but they ended up backing away in compromise.
Here is where I will be a bit controversial, and I am not a racist. I am speaking strictly as an historian and genealogist. The institution of slavery is morally and biblically bad. It was an inhumane ideology, plain and simple. I (or no one) can come to this forum and effectively argue otherwise. But from the standpoint of a genealogist who traces generations, many African-American's would not be enjoying the benefits of the greatest nation on earth had their ancestors not endured the inhumane hardships of slavery. It is their ancestors who had to endure and struggle through this, seeing their children taken from them and sold to others, and working very hard and difficult tasks so that another could profit.
Again, I am in NO way minimizing the the struggles that those slaves and families had to endure. It was a horrible thing to have to endure physically and emotionally. What I am saying as a genealogist is, rather that bashing this nation and its founding, many should be appreciative for what their ancestors had to sacrifice so that they could be where they are today. Even today many African nations are dealing with famine, disease, civil wars, and despots killing (slaughtering) thousands of their own people.
I am not African-American, but as a genealogist, and seeing the slave records, seeing newspaper articles from the 1850/s and 1860's advertising the selling of slaves and the reward/bounty for the capture of runaway slaves, I appreciate what they had to endure, maybe even more than some who should.
Historically this premise is backed up. That is the premise I mentioned in which the slaves and what they had to endure paved the way for a better life today here in this country. Again I acknowledge that even after the Civil War African-American's were treated horribly and discriminated against. And women were to some degree too, not being allowed to vote, etc. But here we have at the very precipice of finally getting racial relationships better, we get these left-wing radical socialists setting this narrative that this nation and government should not be because of the sins of the past. I wonder how many of those you can look into the sins of their past and use the same principle(s)? So now in the minds of many they are going back themselves to the time of slavery and the time of post Civil War former slaves to tell the populace today that they are still enslaved and in chains? Thus erasing almost all of the gains that were made by the blood, sweat, and tears of many.
I hope that the African-American's can see that these socialists do not have their best interests in mind, but are using them and their heritage in order to dismantle this nation and everything that they and their ancestors have achieved. It is these socialist/fascists that are standing by waiting with the chains...
I say, "God bless America." And I am NOT sorry if that offends you!
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Hey, I hear ya man...& no, I don’t know what it’s like to be black man so I can’t totally relate...& I’m sorry you’ve had rough interactions with officers...I really am!
On the flip side, I’ve had encounters with cops that weren’t the most pleasant...no, I’ve never been arrested for anything but I’ve came across a few that seemed to be on a bit of power trip no matter how nice I was trying to be...& it would aggravate me to a point so I kinda know where you’re coming from...
But then I put myself in their shoes...imagine dealing with the public on a daily basis, most of which who are assholes, pissed at you, bad mouthing you, cursing you...yet you’re always supposed to be in a great mood? I understand they are trained but they are people too. Compound that with the fact that they never fully know what the civilian’s intentions are when dealing with them. What are they reaching for? Are they gonna pull a gun? Why are they not cooperating? Etc. Remember, they wanna go home to their families too & sometimes it’s shoot first if you wanna survive. It’s easy to sit back & watch these Facebook videos & pass judgment of y’all what they “should have done” without the entire context of the situation. Sure, some look bad & if an officer handles a situation in a negligent manner, of course, he should be prosecuted. However, most of these videos you see are cut & made viral by liberal news outlets b/c, whether you want to admit it or not, there is a narrative out there the left wants to push. They want you to believe the police is after black people. They want to divide us as much as possible on issues such as these b/c there is old saying progressives live by & it goes by this....divide & conquer.
I hear you too. But the first thought is to justify and figure out why they did what they did and how they were right. I go out of my way to be polite and give them clear understanding and message that I'm good and respectful and that doesn't help me one bit. So excuse me if I don't believe their bad day had an impact on my situation. And you're right. The fact that they're trained is paramount to this discussion. School teachers aren't in danger but they're trained to deal with 30 kids running around. I'm not. That matters.
And I don't question interactions you described. I'm only speaking of the ones where there was far overreaction from the start. But even those situations are justified in the name of protecting the good ones. The good officers don't need our help that way. Plenty of them walking around without a single issue on their record while you notice the ones getting caught up in this mess many times have multiple issues on their record. No matter what there is always that justification tho. How about eliminating and prosecuting to the full extent of the law those that don't represent instead of making excuses for them. I have friends in law enforcement that talk about the deep penetration of these people and how the good cops are literally hostages to these situations. Talk to officers you trust are not part of this. They'll tell you. And snitching is not an option for them. This is something the people have to handle. And as one of my officer friends told me, it will save more than the life of citizens. It will save the lives of many good cops.
Thanks for listening. For real.
You may not be racist. Honestly after reading your post I don't know what you are. You may be worse than a racist.
Many great Americans spent blood sweat and tears working to correct the ills of the past and you present evidence that if not for slavery these people wouldn't be as well off as they are now? How do you know that all the good people in America wouldn't have started some other humane program that rescued black folks from slavery all over the world. Therefore benefiting black folks for generations to come. Your outlook is sick and that backwards justification is sad but even more sad is this is not the first time I have heard this. I hope other people in this thread who dislike Kap can clearly separate themselves from the idiotic post you presented. You're presenting this as some educated approach and review of the situation. It's actually pathetic.
These threads are always entertaining. Nike doesn't care about the political fringes, right or left, or even the solidly right or left, they care about getting their name in the brains of the vast, vast majority in the middle who don't care about politics on a day to day basis, and this thread is doing excactly what Nike wants.
Also, LOL at Clemson giving a crap about what alumni/fans think about the brand of jersey their athletes wear. They care first about revenue and second about recruiting, both of which are significantly improved by being a Nike school.
Also, LOL at Clemson giving a crap about what alumni/fans think about the brand of jersey their athletes wear. They care first about revenue and second about recruiting, both of which are significantly improved by being a Nike school.
treetiger and 8 paragraphs? Not reading this shit.
Anybody in here saying they are going from Nike to Under Armour is a Gamecock fan and you can’t tell me otherwise. Mentally Flagging you all for this.
What shoes will they wear to Outback at 4:30 on Friday now?
I speak for everyone. Please stop posting
