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Clemson and Nike...

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but none of you in this thread are the core customer for Nike. Everytime one of these issues happen that conservative whites scream is, "Gonna kill nike, or shut them down," their stock and value goes up. They know exactly what they are doing.

You may be correct about me, and others not being "the core customer for Nike". However, I can feel good about never buying another Nike product again, and encourage others to do the same. As in my original post, It would please me to see Clemson cut their ties with Nike also. Again, at some point I feel like enough, is enough.
 
Dear Nike, start making higher quality clothing. I shouldn't be able to see through my t-shirt when I hold them up to the light. Also as a fat guy, quit making everything "athletic cut" nobody wants to see my XXL self in a XXL athletic cut.

Thanks

I laughed at this one......well done
 
This is when you exercise your economic vote and refuse to buy their product. I think this move will hurt them. Believe in something.... even if offends Kapernick.
It won’t hurt them because Nike’s core customer base aren’t middle aged white people. It’s made up of people who align closer to CK’s line of thinking.

When the photo based ad came out a few months ago, Nike’s stock surged and they had an above expectations earnings report.
 
You may be correct about me, and others not being "the core customer for Nike". However, I can feel good about never buying another Nike product again, and encourage others to do the same. As in my original post, It would please me to see Clemson cut their ties with Nike also. Again, at some point I feel like enough, is enough.
Would you then bitch when your IPTAY dues and season ticket prices quadrupled to make up the revenue difference?
 
Millions care.

Not really. Nike stock has continued to go no where but up. If millions really cared they would punish Nike, but they dont.

I disagree with Kapernick. I think he’s a pvssy and if I was in charge I would’ve never settled with him on that bullshit collusion lawsuit. That being said, Nike is BY FAR the best and most popular apparel company. Nike might not pay the most, but Clemson benefits greatly from being associated with them, and I want what’s best for Clemson. The last thing we need is opposing staffs using the fact that we are with UA against us on the recruiting trail.....which they would definitely do.

Nike is king, and that’s not changing anytime soon. Sometimes you have to separate your political beliefs from things.
Why should we separate our political beliefs when Nike doesn't? All this bullshit about hating this country and what we stand for is getting completely out of hand. Nike is caving to political correctness like many other companies do. Kapernick has taken a card straight out of Jessie Jackson's playbook. Threatening and intimidation to get what you want.
 
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Have you ever taken the time to actually research the numbers of all of this police brutality on unarmed black men or have you watched a few cellphone videos on Facebook of people trying to get their “gotcha” moment??

My guess is the latter...

When you consider the millions of interactions police officers have with public on a daily basis, you’d find that the numbers are miniscule...but that doesn’t fit your narrative either...
Yeah I guess you’re right. Black lives don’t matter so as long as it’s just a few per quarter it’s not a big deal.

WTF is wrong with you?
 
Why should we separate our political beliefs when Nike doesn't? All this bullshit about hating this country and what we stand for is getting completely out of hand. Nike is caving to political correctness like many other companies do. Kapernick has taken a card straight out of Jessie Jackson's playbook. Threatening and intimidation to get what you want.
Holy hell. I don’t even know where to begin. Drink bleach is a start
 
Why should we separate our political beliefs when Nike doesn't? All this bullshit about hating this country and what we stand for is getting completely out of hand. Nike is caving to political correctness like many other companies do. Kapernick has taken a card straight out of Jessie Jackson's playbook. Threatening and intimidation to get what you want.
Holy hell. I don’t even know where to begin. Drink bleach is a start
I didn't know you liberals got up this early thought you guys slept in.
 
24 hr news cycle and pundits like Rush Limbaugh/Rachel Maddow have really done a number on this country. It wasn’t that long ago when Politics didn’t dominate the culture as it does today. Enjoy giving other people the power to divide you for their own financial gain. We are all Americans and enjoy living in a country where freedom is cherished, even if that freedom involves people doing things you don’t like.
 
I am sick of Nike, and their support of the anti american Colin Kaepernick. Please Clemson cut ties with Nike as soon as possible, and find another sponsor.

I personally will not buy anything Nike again, I'm done...

I get folks are upset and rightfully so, but there is zero chance I will ever quit buying quality stuff due to politics.
 
I say again, these ignorant SOB's want to disassemble this country and remake it in (for) their image. Full of K(r)aepernick and his group want to rip out the founding fathers of our nation because in their view it was a bunch of racists who founded this country, so that makes this county an illegitimate racist country/government.

Yes slavery was bad for any country on this planet. The principles of slavery in this nation were started by England, and helped along by France, Spain, and Portugal. And yes, the West African nations were selling captured peoples and selling them to the Europeans for profit. Not many want to acknowledge this. Yes we should have ended it when we became independent from England and we did not. There were several at the beginning who did want to end slavery, but they ended up backing away in compromise.

Here is where I will be a bit controversial, and I am not a racist. I am speaking strictly as an historian and genealogist. The institution of slavery is morally and biblically bad. It was an inhumane ideology, plain and simple. I (or no one) can come to this forum and effectively argue otherwise. But from the standpoint of a genealogist who traces generations, many African-American's would not be enjoying the benefits of the greatest nation on earth had their ancestors not endured the inhumane hardships of slavery. It is their ancestors who had to endure and struggle through this, seeing their children taken from them and sold to others, and working very hard and difficult tasks so that another could profit.

Again, I am in NO way minimizing the the struggles that those slaves and families had to endure. It was a horrible thing to have to endure physically and emotionally. What I am saying as a genealogist is, rather that bashing this nation and its founding, many should be appreciative for what their ancestors had to sacrifice so that they could be where they are today. Even today many African nations are dealing with famine, disease, civil wars, and despots killing (slaughtering) thousands of their own people.

I am not African-American, but as a genealogist, and seeing the slave records, seeing newspaper articles from the 1850/s and 1860's advertising the selling of slaves and the reward/bounty for the capture of runaway slaves, I appreciate what they had to endure, maybe even more than some who should.

Historically this premise is backed up. That is the premise I mentioned in which the slaves and what they had to endure paved the way for a better life today here in this country. Again I acknowledge that even after the Civil War African-American's were treated horribly and discriminated against. And women were to some degree too, not being allowed to vote, etc. But here we have at the very precipice of finally getting racial relationships better, we get these left-wing radical socialists setting this narrative that this nation and government should not be because of the sins of the past. I wonder how many of those you can look into the sins of their past and use the same principle(s)? So now in the minds of many they are going back themselves to the time of slavery and the time of post Civil War former slaves to tell the populace today that they are still enslaved and in chains? Thus erasing almost all of the gains that were made by the blood, sweat, and tears of many.

I hope that the African-American's can see that these socialists do not have their best interests in mind, but are using them and their heritage in order to dismantle this nation and everything that they and their ancestors have achieved. It is these socialist/fascists that are standing by waiting with the chains...

I say, "God bless America." And I am NOT sorry if that offends you!

This could be one of the worst posts I’ve ever read.
 
This is when you exercise your economic vote and refuse to buy their product. I think this move will hurt them. Believe in something.... even if offends Kapernick.

LOL...the people saying they'll boycott Nike for this recent incident were already doing that. This isn't going to hurt Nike any more than it already has. Not to mention Nike is a global brand and this outrage is solely a minority of its American customers.
 
Holy hell. I don’t even know where to begin. Drink bleach is a start

You seem to be worried about social justice and police brutality/death of AM via police and yet in the same thread tell someone to drink bleach, insinuating for them kill themselves.

Typical.
 
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Have you ever taken the time to actually research the numbers of all of this police brutality on unarmed black men or have you watched a few cellphone videos on Facebook of people trying to get their “gotcha” moment??

My guess is the latter...

When you consider the millions of interactions police officers have with public on a daily basis, you’d find that the numbers are miniscule...but that doesn’t fit your narrative either...

Facts don't support his Libtard thought process....so therefore you're wrong.
 
Buddy it’s not a hard concept. Police brutality is a problem. It’s an even bigger problem for the African-American demographic. Colin Kaepernick decides to peacefully protest by taking a knee during the national anthem to say “I can’t just blindly worship a country that continues to take no action when numerous unarmed African-Americans are killed by law enforcement year after year.”

You don’t like that because you think not blindly following the customs of the anthem means someone hates America. You think Colin Kaepernick is a POS because he took a peaceful and effective method to protest a blatant and continuous injustice in our country. He even consulted with veterans before doing so. To act like he has been reckless or inconsiderate in any way shape or form is simply ignorant.

So you can continue to think you’re some red-blooded, freedom-loving, picture perfect American and hate Kaepernick and anyone else who doesn’t like police killing unarmed black men. But the reality is YOU are the POS. YOU are the ignorant SOB who any decent person can’t stand when it comes to conversation about this topic. If you hate the guy who protests police brutality, I am forced to assume that you support police brutality.

Since that seems to be the case, I think I speak for most of the decent human beings on this forum when I say that YOU should boycott being a Clemson fan. You are an embarrassment to the fan base.
You and Kap both need to read Thomas Sowell or at least listen to Larry Elder. That police brutality narrative is false .
 
You and Kap both need to read Thomas Sowell or at least listen to Larry Elder. That police brutality narrative is false .
Tell those that had the pleasure of meeting Zach Wester in Florida, and yeah he’s only one guy, but if you don’t see issues with how the police are conducting their business you aren’t looking.
 
Have you ever taken the time to actually research the numbers of all of this police brutality on unarmed black men or have you watched a few cellphone videos on Facebook of people trying to get their “gotcha” moment??

My guess is the latter...

When you consider the millions of interactions police officers have with public on a daily basis, you’d find that the numbers are miniscule...but that doesn’t fit your narrative either...

please provide said numbers to defend your position.

A study by a University of California, Davis professor found “evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being black, unarmed, and shot by police is about 3.49 times the probability of being white, unarmed, and shot by police on average.” Additionally, the analysis found that “there is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
 
Only on our countries 243th birthday could we have this open discussion about differing opinions while pulling for our Clemson Tigers. Cant do this under a dictator or in a Communist country without fear of reprisals.

Freedom of Expression, Press, & Religion, the Right to Bear Arms, These are some of the ideals that our Founding Fathers based this country on. It is our RIGHT and DUTY to question our government and society when things don't feel right.

We should honor this country and the people who have and still fight for our freedom, whether fighting in the military, police or through social injustice avenues.

You can say what you want about CK but know this, he put his professional career and millions of $$ on the line when it mattered. He saw an injustice in this country and made a stand- and it cost him more than most of us have every put at RISK.

Personally, I think this whole NIKE flag thing was planned to stir the pot again, the need another earnings bump. Why would you put an old flag on the back of a shoe? Someone somewhere is gonna get butt hurt about it.
 
What I am trying to say in a nut shell is that instead of criticizing this country, all of its founders, all republicans as being racists, they (all that do so) should give thanks to the ancestors that truly endured the hardships and struggles of slavery. That is my point. And you explain to me why those that had no choice and had to live through this have not made it better for those today.
 
I am sick of Nike, and their support of the anti american Colin Kaepernick. Please Clemson cut ties with Nike as soon as possible, and find another sponsor.

I personally will not buy anything Nike again, I'm done...
Whether you agree with Colin Kapernick or not, social awareness and social change is good for society. It’s like new growth on a old vine. Right or wrong, it stimulates discussion and thought, all about making our society, our country, a better place. Sure there will be tons of differences and disagreements, but the ability to do that without threatening ones life is probably the most significant concept founded in the constitution. It’s the stimulation that Nike is bringing that’s positive imho. Go ahead and boycott. That’s your right and even encourage others to boycott. For me, I’ll continue to buy Nike gear.

BTW, if you get a chance watch the second episode of Black Mirror season 5. It’s about real people with different problems and opinions and how they express those. It’s pretty enlightening.
 
I am sick of Nike, and their support of the anti american Colin Kaepernick. Please Clemson cut ties with Nike as soon as possible, and find another sponsor.

I personally will not buy anything Nike again, I'm done...
I posted the very same thing on FB yesterday pal.
 
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Yeah I guess you’re right. Black lives don’t matter so as long as it’s just a few per quarter it’s not a big deal.

WTF is wrong with you?
Look at @johnhugh ...trying to talk all tough...

Have you been taking lessons from that liar, AOC?! That’s cute...
 
Who cares. Nike makes better athletic wear than any other company. It’s just like the people who say they won’t eat at Chick Fil A because of what they believe/support. You’re only cheating yourself.
I haven't had a Papa John's pizza since their CEO resigned for his racial comments during a conference call with their former marketing firm. I haven't seen a Papa John's commercial with Peyton Manning since that time either so I guess Peyton understands what's what. Of course, I disagree with Chick Fil A's owner's stance on homosexuality, but I still eat there from time to time until I hear that they discriminate in their hiring practices and/or in the way in which they treat their customers.
 
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Not really. Nike stock has continued to go no where but up. If millions really cared they would punish Nike, but they dont.

I disagree with Kapernick. I think he’s a pvssy and if I was in charge I would’ve never settled with him on that bullshit collusion lawsuit. That being said, Nike is BY FAR the best and most popular apparel company. Nike might not pay the most, but Clemson benefits greatly from being associated with them, and I want what’s best for Clemson. The last thing we need is opposing staffs using the fact that we are with UA against us on the recruiting trail.....which they would definitely do.

Nike is king, and that’s not changing anytime soon. Sometimes you have to separate your political beliefs from things.
If Nike would, as you say, separate their political beliefs from things, maybe I would also
 
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It's CK's point of view and Nike's decision. Everyone has an opinion. I personally think the whole controversy is much ado about nothing. I don't have any allegiance to CK or Nike.
 
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I dislike Nike’s decision regarding Kap, but they’re clearly the premier sports brand and it’s not even close. I personally love Nike apparel and so do recruits. That’s what matters.
 
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