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@treetiger seems to know what he’s talking about, but I’m going with the 90+ year old queen of England leading a 300 person legion of doom, which is part of an even larger nefarious global network that will give us the mark of the beast and usher in seas of fire, antichrists and plagues like the killer hornets.

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@treetiger seems to know what he’s talking about, but I’m going with the 90+ year old queen of England leading a 300 person legion of doom, which is part of an even larger nefarious global network that will give us the mark of the beast and usher in seas of fire, antichrists and plagues like the killer hornets.

If you want pain, just get your girlfriend to tie you to the bed and whip you a little..

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You are clearly denying the time specific passages:

~ Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

~ Matt. 16:27,28 (27) "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. (28) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

~ Mark 8:38-9:1 (38) "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” (9:1) And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

~ Luke 9:26,27 (26) "Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (27) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.

Now I know you believe that some of those people are not still alive today, do you??

The 'abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place' (Daniel) was taking off of what the Jews remembered previously when Antiochus IV Epiphanes defiled the Temple and sacrificed a pig on the alter. This lead to the Maccabean Revolt and the Jewish cleansing of the Temple, celebrated as Hanukkah.

So when Jesus quoted Daniel on that they knew what he was talking about regarding defilement of the Temple. The Jews would have viewed this action as the fulfillment of Daniel’s vision when the burnt offering ceased and the abomination of desolation was set up. Luke’s description of Jerusalem surrounded by armies, which would have been Roman armies – appears to affirm this theory of a Roman abomination.

The antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22; 2 John 7) is referred to as those who do not believe that Jesus is the Christ. He was certainly referring to some of those he was speaking to as well. The word is not used in Revelation. Even so, Nero and the Romans were antichrist's, as they did not believe in Jesus as Christ.

I already showed to you that the Tribulation where Jesus said, Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. So I assume you believe right now that your faith has to be completed when the Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, the animal sacrifices are re-instituted, so Jesus can come and stop (fulfill) then again, because He just didn't quite complete it as He was supposed to do the first time? Oh, as Paul said, the animal sacrifices could not atone for your sins, it never did or never will, it was meant to show the Jews were obedient to God. Only Jesus' blood could wash away sins. So why the heck to you expect we and Jesus needs to re-start the animal sacrifices when they are meaningless? Why rebuild the physical Temple when it is meaningless. The Temple is our body to receive the Holy Spirit. You don't believe that you received the Gift of the Holy Spirit?

My Jesus says what he says and means what he means. If he said he was coming back soon and some of them would live to witness it, well I believe Him. If he said all these things would be in their generation, well I believe Him. If John, one of the apostles, says in Rev. 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John. And he says (Rev. 1:3) Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. I believe him.

You can go on living waiting for something to happen to make you complete, but my Jesus has already done that for me. He has fulfilled His promises to me. When I die, I don't have to wait for his coming (parousia) again (3rd time is a charm???). When I die I go straight to be with Him and Father. I guess when you die you go back to the holding tank (Hades) that Jesus emptied in Acts when he went down to preach to those in the earth, and they ascended with Him when He went to the Father. You need another tribulation, coming (parousia), and I guess justification, since Jesus did not completely justify you when He was supposed to. Good luck with that, and I really mean it. I will pray for you, and I really mean that too.
You are clearly denying the time specific passages:

~ Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

~ Matt. 16:27,28 (27) "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. (28) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

~ Mark 8:38-9:1 (38) "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” (9:1) And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

~ Luke 9:26,27 (26) "Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (27) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.

Now I know you believe that some of those people are not still alive today, do you??

The 'abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place' (Daniel) was taking off of what the Jews remembered previously when Antiochus IV Epiphanes defiled the Temple and sacrificed a pig on the alter. This lead to the Maccabean Revolt and the Jewish cleansing of the Temple, celebrated as Hanukkah.

So when Jesus quoted Daniel on that they knew what he was talking about regarding defilement of the Temple. The Jews would have viewed this action as the fulfillment of Daniel’s vision when the burnt offering ceased and the abomination of desolation was set up. Luke’s description of Jerusalem surrounded by armies, which would have been Roman armies – appears to affirm this theory of a Roman abomination.

The antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22; 2 John 7) is referred to as those who do not believe that Jesus is the Christ. He was certainly referring to some of those he was speaking to as well. The word is not used in Revelation. Even so, Nero and the Romans were antichrist's, as they did not believe in Jesus as Christ.

I already showed to you that the Tribulation where Jesus said, Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. So I assume you believe right now that your faith has to be completed when the Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, the animal sacrifices are re-instituted, so Jesus can come and stop (fulfill) then again, because He just didn't quite complete it as He was supposed to do the first time? Oh, as Paul said, the animal sacrifices could not atone for your sins, it never did or never will, it was meant to show the Jews were obedient to God. Only Jesus' blood could wash away sins. So why the heck to you expect we and Jesus needs to re-start the animal sacrifices when they are meaningless? Why rebuild the physical Temple when it is meaningless. The Temple is our body to receive the Holy Spirit. You don't believe that you received the Gift of the Holy Spirit?

My Jesus says what he says and means what he means. If he said he was coming back soon and some of them would live to witness it, well I believe Him. If he said all these things would be in their generation, well I believe Him. If John, one of the apostles, says in Rev. 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John. And he says (Rev. 1:3) Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. I believe him.

You can go on living waiting for something to happen to make you complete, but my Jesus has already done that for me. He has fulfilled His promises to me. When I die, I don't have to wait for his coming (parousia) again (3rd time is a charm???). When I die I go straight to be with Him and Father. I guess when you die you go back to the holding tank (Hades) that Jesus emptied in Acts when he went down to preach to those in the earth, and they ascended with Him when He went to the Father. You need another tribulation, coming (parousia), and I guess justification, since Jesus did not completely justify you when He was supposed to. Good luck with that, and I really mean it. I will pray for you, and I really mean that too.
I never said he didn’t justify me. The Jews are going start sacrificing animals again because most JEWS don’t believe JESUS is the Messiah.
You are clearly denying the time specific passages:

~ Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

~ Matt. 16:27,28 (27) "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. (28) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

~ Mark 8:38-9:1 (38) "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” (9:1) And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

~ Luke 9:26,27 (26) "Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (27) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.

Now I know you believe that some of those people are not still alive today, do you??

The 'abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place' (Daniel) was taking off of what the Jews remembered previously when Antiochus IV Epiphanes defiled the Temple and sacrificed a pig on the alter. This lead to the Maccabean Revolt and the Jewish cleansing of the Temple, celebrated as Hanukkah.

So when Jesus quoted Daniel on that they knew what he was talking about regarding defilement of the Temple. The Jews would have viewed this action as the fulfillment of Daniel’s vision when the burnt offering ceased and the abomination of desolation was set up. Luke’s description of Jerusalem surrounded by armies, which would have been Roman armies – appears to affirm this theory of a Roman abomination.

The antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22; 2 John 7) is referred to as those who do not believe that Jesus is the Christ. He was certainly referring to some of those he was speaking to as well. The word is not used in Revelation. Even so, Nero and the Romans were antichrist's, as they did not believe in Jesus as Christ.

I already showed to you that the Tribulation where Jesus said, Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. So I assume you believe right now that your faith has to be completed when the Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, the animal sacrifices are re-instituted, so Jesus can come and stop (fulfill) then again, because He just didn't quite complete it as He was supposed to do the first time? Oh, as Paul said, the animal sacrifices could not atone for your sins, it never did or never will, it was meant to show the Jews were obedient to God. Only Jesus' blood could wash away sins. So why the heck to you expect we and Jesus needs to re-start the animal sacrifices when they are meaningless? Why rebuild the physical Temple when it is meaningless. The Temple is our body to receive the Holy Spirit. You don't believe that you received the Gift of the Holy Spirit?

My Jesus says what he says and means what he means. If he said he was coming back soon and some of them would live to witness it, well I believe Him. If he said all these things would be in their generation, well I believe Him. If John, one of the apostles, says in Rev. 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John. And he says (Rev. 1:3) Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. I believe him.

You can go on living waiting for something to happen to make you complete, but my Jesus has already done that for me. He has fulfilled His promises to me. When I die, I don't have to wait for his coming (parousia) again (3rd time is a charm???). When I die I go straight to be with Him and Father. I guess when you die you go back to the holding tank (Hades) that Jesus emptied in Acts when he went down to preach to those in the earth, and they ascended with Him when He went to the Father. You need another tribulation, coming (parousia), and I guess justification, since Jesus did not completely justify you when He was supposed to. Good luck with that, and I really mean it. I will pray for you, and I really mean that too.

Where are you getting the idea that I’m waiting on something else to happen. I believe like you, because of my faith in JESUS, if I die, I’m going to be with the LORD. I said the Jews In Israel are going to start sacrificing animals again because they don’t believe in JESUS as their Messiah. When JESUS said, in Mathew, “This generation will not pass away till all these things have taken place.” What things.... The Parable Of The Fig Tree (Israel recognized as a nation on May 14, 1948) earthquakes (the increase of earthquakes... from 1960-1970 their were 13 earthquakes that rated 6.0 on the Richter Scale. In 1994, there were 294, in 2013 there were over 3000)

Pestilences... need I say anymore

Famines... 2/3 of the world is starving, including people in our own country!

Nation Will Rise Against Nation & Kingdom against Kingdom

We will be delivered up to Tribulation by family & friends. This is coming!

The Gospel will be preached throughout the world. (This is happening now through satellite TV)

The Abomination of Desolation is the antichrist! Revelation clearly says when JESUS returns & destroys the armies surrounding Jerusalem, The False Prophet & Antichrist are thrown Alive into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 19)

Revelation 14 clearly states that those who take the mark of the beast & or worship the antichrist or his image will be tormented day & night with Fire & brimstone in the presence of GOD & The Angels & they have No rest day or night!

The Fourth Beast in Daniel 7 is Papal Rome & The NWO. The 7 heads are the 7 mountains on which Papal Rome & the Vatican sit. The 10 horns are 10 Global Leaders who will rule & reign with the antichrist. The NWO has divided the world up into 10 regions with a global leader over each region. The Little is the antichrist & Papal Rome & The Vatican. If you think the antichrist Or his image is the Abomination of Desolation, I’ll pray for you.
 
I never said he didn’t justify me. The Jews are going start sacrificing animals again because most JEWS don’t believe JESUS is the Messiah.


Where are you getting the idea that I’m waiting on something else to happen. I believe like you, because of my faith in JESUS, if I die, I’m going to be with the LORD. I said the Jews In Israel are going to start sacrificing animals again because they don’t believe in JESUS as their Messiah. When JESUS said, in Mathew, “This generation will not pass away till all these things have taken place.” What things.... The Parable Of The Fig Tree (Israel recognized as a nation on May 14, 1948) earthquakes (the increase of earthquakes... from 1960-1970 their were 13 earthquakes that rated 6.0 on the Richter Scale. In 1994, there were 294, in 2013 there were over 3000)

Pestilences... need I say anymore

Famines... 2/3 of the world is starving, including people in our own country!

Nation Will Rise Against Nation & Kingdom against Kingdom

We will be delivered up to Tribulation by family & friends. This is coming!

The Gospel will be preached throughout the world. (This is happening now through satellite TV)

The Abomination of Desolation is the antichrist! Revelation clearly says when JESUS returns & destroys the armies surrounding Jerusalem, The False Prophet & Antichrist are thrown Alive into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 19)

Revelation 14 clearly states that those who take the mark of the beast & or worship the antichrist or his image will be tormented day & night with Fire & brimstone in the presence of GOD & The Angels & they have No rest day or night!

The Fourth Beast in Daniel 7 is Papal Rome & The NWO. The 7 heads are the 7 mountains on which Papal Rome & the Vatican sit. The 10 horns are 10 Global Leaders who will rule & reign with the antichrist. The NWO has divided the world up into 10 regions with a global leader over each region. The Little is the antichrist & Papal Rome & The Vatican. If you think the antichrist Or his image is the Abomination of Desolation, I’ll pray for you.

Revelation does not mention the antichrist. That word is not there. The Greek word for that (antichrist) in 1 John is not even present in Revelation. You just will not accept the correct meaning of the timing words.

So my friend, maybe I'll see you on the corner...

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I’m not much for conspiracy theories, but for some reason have found myself reading through this whole thread....

However, I just told my girlfriend about this thread and she says, “have I ever told you about being interviewed by the FBI when they were building Denver International Airport?”.....Ummmm, no you haven’t!

the father of her ex-boyfriend was the CEO of the company that built the attached hotel to DIA. She was dating him at the time they were about to build. Apparently, she had to interview with the FBI as part of his clearance to start the building process. Why would you need to interview the girlfriend of your son for just building a hotel?!?!? Interesting for sure...
 
Revelation does not mention the antichrist. That word is not there. The Greek word for that (antichrist) in 1 John is not even present in Revelation. You just will not accept the correct meaning of the timing words.

So my friend, maybe I'll see you on the corner...

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Who do you think the “Beast” is... The Antichrist... “The Beast & the False Prophet were thrown alive into the Lake Of Fire!”
 
Revelation does not mention the antichrist. That word is not there. The Greek word for that (antichrist) in 1 John is not even present in Revelation. You just will not accept the correct meaning of the timing words.

So my friend, maybe I'll see you on the corner...

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Don’t hold your breath.., who do you think the Little Horn is in Daniel 7... The Antichrist
 
I’m not much for conspiracy theories, but for some reason have found myself reading through this whole thread....

However, I just told my girlfriend about this thread and she says, “have I ever told you about being interviewed by the FBI when they were building Denver International Airport?”.....Ummmm, no you haven’t!

the father of her ex-boyfriend was the CEO of the company that built the attached hotel to DIA. She was dating him at the time they were about to build. Apparently, she had to interview with the FBI as part of his clearance to start the building process. Why would you need to interview the girlfriend of your son for just building a hotel?!?!? Interesting for sure...
Thanks for trying to get us back on track. Think it’s too far gone from the original topic.
 
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Who do you think the “Beast” is... The Antichrist... “The Beast & the False Prophet were thrown alive into the Lake Of Fire!”

I mentioned this on page 14...

Many over look the clues right in front of them when interpreting the Book of Revelation. Regarding the number of the beast (666), Rev. 13:18. It is almost universally thought that this beast represents to Roman Empire personified in its Emperor Nero, either by the early Roman period, or a new revived Roman Empire. This is further illustrated in Rev. 17:9, And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (10) And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

First, there is used in the ancient cultures of the Jews, Greeks, Roman, and Latin's, a form of coded numerology called gematria. Gematria is a form of numerology in which the letters of the Hebrew (or Greek or Latin) alphabet are substituted with corresponding numbers. The first ten letters are given number values that increase consecutively from 1 to 10.

Even though the Book of Revelation was written in Greek, it used Hebrew symbology, thus Hebrew gematria. Nero Caesar, written as Neron Kaisar by the Hebrews, adds up exactly to the Hebrew spelling of 666. In the Latin Vulgate the number is written 616, which equals Nero Caesar in Latin.

Back to the above Rev. 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The Hebrews view Julius Caesar as the first king or emperor, even though he was a dictator in the Roman Republic (See Josephus and other Jewish writings). Augustus Caesar (my avatar!) was officially the 1st Emperor of the Roman Empire, but not in the listing of Roman rulers (kings) by the Jews. So, starting with (1) Julius Caesar, (2) Augustus Caesar, (3) Tiberius Caesar, (4) Caligula Caesar, (5) Claudius Caesar, the five (5) who had fallen at the time of the writing of the Book of Revelation.

Rev. 17:10...and one is...(6) Nero Caesar...he must continue a short space (time)...Nero committed suicide on 9 June 68 AD. You then had three emperors in a short span, Galba (8 June 68 AD–15 January 69 AD), Otho (15 January 69 AD–16 April 69 AD), and Vitellius (17 April 69 AD–20 December 69 AD), before finally Gen. Vespasian was declared emperor by his army, and he marched on Rome and deposed Vitellius. He became emperor on 22 December 69, and ruled to his death on 24 June 79. Emperor Vespasian was the general that Nero sent to put down the Jewish rebellion in 66 AD. He had Jerusalem surrounded in 68 when Nero committed suicide. He withdrew from Jerusalem to return to Rome, and when he became emperor, he sent his son Titus back to siege Jerusalem again, which he did until its brutal fall in 70 AD.

Early Christians writers mention that it was at this time (Vespasian's withdrawal) that many of the Christians who were trapped in Jerusalem fled to Pella, in the mountains of Judea. Matt. 24: 16-22, "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; (17) Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. (18) Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. (19) How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! (20) Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. (21) For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. (22) “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

They were shortened because of Nero's death and Vespasian's withdrawal. They had a short time to get out before Titus returned, hence the call for urgency to leave.
 
I mentioned this on page 14...

Many over look the clues right in front of them when interpreting the Book of Revelation. Regarding the number of the beast (666), Rev. 13:18. It is almost universally thought that this beast represents to Roman Empire personified in its Emperor Nero, either by the early Roman period, or a new revived Roman Empire. This is further illustrated in Rev. 17:9, And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (10) And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

First, there is used in the ancient cultures of the Jews, Greeks, Roman, and Latin's, a form of coded numerology called gematria. Gematria is a form of numerology in which the letters of the Hebrew (or Greek or Latin) alphabet are substituted with corresponding numbers. The first ten letters are given number values that increase consecutively from 1 to 10.

Even though the Book of Revelation was written in Greek, it used Hebrew symbology, thus Hebrew gematria. Nero Caesar, written as Neron Kaisar by the Hebrews, adds up exactly to the Hebrew spelling of 666. In the Latin Vulgate the number is written 616, which equals Nero Caesar in Latin.

Back to the above Rev. 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The Hebrews view Julius Caesar as the first king or emperor, even though he was a dictator in the Roman Republic (See Josephus and other Jewish writings). Augustus Caesar (my avatar!) was officially the 1st Emperor of the Roman Empire, but not in the listing of Roman rulers (kings) by the Jews. So, starting with (1) Julius Caesar, (2) Augustus Caesar, (3) Tiberius Caesar, (4) Caligula Caesar, (5) Claudius Caesar, the five (5) who had fallen at the time of the writing of the Book of Revelation.

Rev. 17:10...and one is...(6) Nero Caesar...he must continue a short space (time)...Nero committed suicide on 9 June 68 AD. You then had three emperors in a short span, Galba (8 June 68 AD–15 January 69 AD), Otho (15 January 69 AD–16 April 69 AD), and Vitellius (17 April 69 AD–20 December 69 AD), before finally Gen. Vespasian was declared emperor by his army, and he marched on Rome and deposed Vitellius. He became emperor on 22 December 69, and ruled to his death on 24 June 79. Emperor Vespasian was the general that Nero sent to put down the Jewish rebellion in 66 AD. He had Jerusalem surrounded in 68 when Nero committed suicide. He withdrew from Jerusalem to return to Rome, and when he became emperor, he sent his son Titus back to siege Jerusalem again, which he did until its brutal fall in 70 AD.

Early Christians writers mention that it was at this time (Vespasian's withdrawal) that many of the Christians who were trapped in Jerusalem fled to Pella, in the mountains of Judea. Matt. 24: 16-22, "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; (17) Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. (18) Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. (19) How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! (20) Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. (21) For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. (22) “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

They were shortened because of Nero's death and Vespasian's withdrawal. They had a short time to get out before Titus returned, hence the call for urgency to leave.
Read Revelation 19, JESUS comes back on a White Horse after the last vial is poured out (Revelation 16) he destroys 82 % of the armies gathered against Jerusalem. The blood flows for 1600 furlongs (200 miles) The Beast & The False Prophet are thrown alive in the Lake of Fire. It takes 7 months to bury the dead & 7 years to get rid of the armament. THIS EVENT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!! The Mark OF The Beast/Computer Chip inserted in Right Hand or Forehead (Revelation 13) Has Not Been Implemented Yet!

The Command to Worship The Image of The Beast (Antichrist) has Not happened Yet (Revelation 13)

Revelation 20.10 & The devil that deceived them was cast into the Lake Of Fire where the Beast (Antichrist) & False Prophet ARE
 
Read Revelation 19, JESUS comes back on a White Horse after the last vial is poured out (Revelation 16) he destroys 82 % of the armies gathered against Jerusalem. The blood flows for 1600 furlongs (200 miles) The Beast & The False Prophet are thrown alive in the Lake of Fire. It takes 7 months to bury the dead & 7 years to get rid of the armament. THIS EVENT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!! The Mark OF The Beast/Computer Chip inserted in Right Hand or Forehead (Revelation 13) Has Not Been Implemented Yet!

The Command to Worship The Image of The Beast (Antichrist) has Not happened Yet (Revelation 13)

Revelation 20.10 & The devil that deceived them was cast into the Lake Of Fire where the Beast (Antichrist) & False Prophet ARE

OK, whatever. You are going to believe what you want to believe in spite of facts. Hopefully this will be me greeting you at the Pearly Gate...

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@treetiger seems to know what he’s talking about, but I’m going with the 90+ year old queen of England leading a 300 person legion of doom, which is part of an even larger nefarious global network that will give us the mark of the beast and usher in seas of fire, antichrists and plagues like the killer hornets.

Is that you scotchtiger?

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I’m not much for conspiracy theories, but for some reason have found myself reading through this whole thread....

However, I just told my girlfriend about this thread and she says, “have I ever told you about being interviewed by the FBI when they were building Denver International Airport?”.....Ummmm, no you haven’t!

the father of her ex-boyfriend was the CEO of the company that built the attached hotel to DIA. She was dating him at the time they were about to build. Apparently, she had to interview with the FBI as part of his clearance to start the building process. Why would you need to interview the girlfriend of your son for just building a hotel?!?!? Interesting for sure...

He was being vetted before getting clearance of some kind. That’s why she was interviewed. Pretty standard stuff really. Could be for any number of reasons. Probably because he was building a hotel attached to a major international airport. But, maybe because he was building a hotel attached to a miles deep system of tunnels and military bases. I lean towards the former.
 
Dinosaurs were real. That has nothing to do with the bible. Religious experts have been trying to talk and preach around dinosaurs for years. The account we have in Genesis of creating the earth and firmament I believe is surrounding His creation of man. I believe the earth was already here. As most believe, from the Genesis creation to now is thought to be between 6,000 to 10,000 years. There are controversial theories all over the place, such as seen on Ancient Aliens where they believe that man was placed here by some alien culture and when God removed a rib of Adam to make Eve was some type of cloning. I told a friend when I lived in Jacksonville, FL who believed this theory that, even if God was an alien that created (cloned) us here on earth, since he did create, he is still God.

But if you want to divide the earth in two ages (Dinosaur age and man age) I can go with that. But the two ages mentioned in the bible where we are told an age (Greek: αἰών; transliterated: aión) was ending, and a new age was beginning was meaning that the old age (Jewish Covenant) was ending (coming to fulfillment), and the new age (covenant of Grace) was replacing it. As Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished."
Have you read the Urantia Book?
 
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Got a good earful of this one last night sipping bourbon at my local bar. I've heard similar before, but not to this level of detail.

The Chinese have been so threatened and hurt economically by Trump that they systematically engineered COVID-19 and then timed it's release/escape to impact the 2020 election. They were already in contact with the Bilderberg Group and prominent liberals like George Soros, who also had prominent parts of the plan. Epstein was a target due to having knowledge of this. With the #metoo stuff around Epstein, he was threatening to release his known info. Thus, killed in his jail cell.

The Chinese did not understand how infectious the virus was. They didn't anticipate that a country with the worst air quality on the planet and 350-400MM smokers would be impacted so harshly. The rest of the world was slow to react due to China's either trickle of information or blatantly not releasing information.

Fauci and others are/were plants in this process as well. All to smear the presidency and the USA. All in all, a true attack by China on the Western World and the USA.
I can buy that. Russian collusion didn’t work (backfiring in fact) and Ukraine impeachment didn’t work. Now it’s this virus crippling the economy to help try and take the current administration down.
 
Read Revelation 19, JESUS comes back on a White Horse after the last vial is poured out (Revelation 16) he destroys 82 % of the armies gathered against Jerusalem. The blood flows for 1600 furlongs (200 miles) The Beast & The False Prophet are thrown alive in the Lake of Fire. It takes 7 months to bury the dead & 7 years to get rid of the armament. THIS EVENT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!! The Mark OF The Beast/Computer Chip inserted in Right Hand or Forehead (Revelation 13) Has Not Been Implemented Yet!

The Command to Worship The Image of The Beast (Antichrist) has Not happened Yet (Revelation 13)

Revelation 20.10 & The devil that deceived them was cast into the Lake Of Fire where the Beast (Antichrist) & False Prophet ARE

You keep calling the mark of the beast a computer chip, but that’s just someone’s interpretation that you read in a book, along with all the rest of your terrible understanding of Revelation.

I think @treetiger owned you ITT.
 
You keep calling the mark of the beast a computer chip, but that’s just someone’s interpretation that you read in a book, along with all the rest of your terrible understanding of Revelation.

I think @treetiger owned you ITT.
That’s because he’s telling you what you want hear! I’m telling you the Truth! What are going to do when what I said comes to pass? And it will. The RFID Chip is in Obamacare... look it up! Gates is working on a Quantum Microdot Vaccine & the Enzyme Luciferase is what makes it work!

Make no mistake about, we are witnessing a NWO Takeover!

If Trump is ousted, we are going into Bondage!

We are going to be taxed into Oblivion!

Agenda 21 will be Implemented, they will tell you where you can & can’t live & visit! We will pay a Global Climate Change Tax & a Global Carbon Footprint Tax!

We will be given a choice to Take The Mark of the Beast ((Revelation 13) Computer Chip! Those who don’t, won’t be able to buy or sell! Those who do will partake in one or more of 16 Plagues from GOD starting in Revelation 6, The 6Th Seal! Those who take the “Mark“ will also spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire.

They will force us to Worship The Beast/Antichrist! Those who do will be slaves to the NWO. Those who do will partake in one or more of the 16 Judgements/Plagues starting with the 6th Seal in Revelation 6 & will spend eternity in the Lake Of Fire.

The First Seal has been opened which is the Rider on The White Horse & he goes out conquering & To Conquer. (Beast/Antichrist)

The Second Seal is on the Clock which is the Rider on The Red Horse. He was given a Great Sword to take Peace from the Earth so men would slay each other!

I’m telling y’all this over & over because some have never heard this before & when it comes to pass, hopefully some will heed these words.

John 3:3 Unless a man is Born Again, he cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

John 3:16 For GOD so loved the World HE gave his only begotten SON, That whoever believes in HIM should NOT perish but have everlasting life!

JESUS said, “I’M the Way, The Truth & The Life, No One Comes To The Father But Through Me!

Romans 10:9 If You Confess with your Mouth The Lord JESUS & Believe in Your Heart GOD raised HIM from the dead, You Shall be Saved!

Roman 10:13 Whoever Calls on The Name of The LORD shall be saved.

JESUS said, “If anyone would come after ME, let him take up his cross daily & follow ME, for whoever seeks to save his life will lose it but he who loses HIS life for MY sake will Find it!!
 
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That’s because he’s telling you what you want hear! I’m telling you the Truth! What are going to do when what I said comes to pass? And it will. The RFID Chip is in Obamacare... look it up! Gates is working on a Quantum Microdot Vaccine & the Enzyme Luciferase is what makes it work!

Make no mistake about, we are witnessing a NWO Takeover!

If Trump is ousted, we are going into Bondage!

We are going to be taxed into Oblivion!

Agenda 21 will be Implemented, they will tell you where you can & can’t live & visit! We will pay a Global Climate Change Tax & a Global Carbon Footprint Tax!

We will be given a choice to Take The Mark of the Beast ((Revelation 13) Computer Chip! Those who don’t, won’t be able to buy or sell! Those who do will partake in one or more of 16 Plagues from GOD starting in Revelation 6, The 6Th Seal! Those who take the “Mark“ will also spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire.

They will force us to Worship The Beast/Antichrist! Those who do will be slaves to the NWO. Those who do will partake in one or more of the 16 Judgements/Plagues starting with the 6th Seal in Revelation 6 & will spend eternity in the Lake Of Fire.

The First Seal has been opened which is the Rider on The White Horse & he goes out conquering & To Conquer. (Beast/Antichrist)

The Second Seal is on the Clock which is the Rider on The Red Horse. He was given a Great Sword to take Peace from the Earth so men would slay each other!

I’m telling y’all this over & over because some have never heard this before & when it comes to pass, hopefully some will heed these words.

John 3:3 Unless a man is Born Again, he cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

John 3:16 For GOD so loved the World HE gave his only begotten SON, That whoever believes in HIM should NOT perish but have everlasting life!

JESUS said, “I’M the Way, The Truth & The Life, No One Comes To The Father But Through Me!

Romans 10:9 If You Confess with your Mouth The Lord JESUS & Believe in Your Heart GOD raised HIM from the dead, You Shall be Saved!

Roman 10:13 Whoever Calls on The Name of The LORD shall be saved.

JESUS said, “If anyone would come after ME, let him take up his cross daily & follow ME, for whoever seeks to save his life will lose it but he who loses HIS life for MY sake will Find it!!

I feel bad for your loved ones.
 
Does anybody believe that Supreme Court Justice Scalia was assassinated? Death by natural causes or... something else?
 
That’s because he’s telling you what you want hear! I’m telling you the Truth! What are going to do when what I said comes to pass? And it will. The RFID Chip is in Obamacare... look it up! Gates is working on a Quantum Microdot Vaccine & the Enzyme Luciferase is what makes it work!

Make no mistake about, we are witnessing a NWO Takeover!

If Trump is ousted, we are going into Bondage!

We are going to be taxed into Oblivion!

Agenda 21 will be Implemented, they will tell you where you can & can’t live & visit! We will pay a Global Climate Change Tax & a Global Carbon Footprint Tax!

We will be given a choice to Take The Mark of the Beast ((Revelation 13) Computer Chip! Those who don’t, won’t be able to buy or sell! Those who do will partake in one or more of 16 Plagues from GOD starting in Revelation 6, The 6Th Seal! Those who take the “Mark“ will also spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire.

They will force us to Worship The Beast/Antichrist! Those who do will be slaves to the NWO. Those who do will partake in one or more of the 16 Judgements/Plagues starting with the 6th Seal in Revelation 6 & will spend eternity in the Lake Of Fire.

The First Seal has been opened which is the Rider on The White Horse & he goes out conquering & To Conquer. (Beast/Antichrist)

The Second Seal is on the Clock which is the Rider on The Red Horse. He was given a Great Sword to take Peace from the Earth so men would slay each other!

I’m telling y’all this over & over because some have never heard this before & when it comes to pass, hopefully some will heed these words.

John 3:3 Unless a man is Born Again, he cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

John 3:16 For GOD so loved the World HE gave his only begotten SON, That whoever believes in HIM should NOT perish but have everlasting life!

JESUS said, “I’M the Way, The Truth & The Life, No One Comes To The Father But Through Me!

Romans 10:9 If You Confess with your Mouth The Lord JESUS & Believe in Your Heart GOD raised HIM from the dead, You Shall be Saved!

Roman 10:13 Whoever Calls on The Name of The LORD shall be saved.

JESUS said, “If anyone would come after ME, let him take up his cross daily & follow ME, for whoever seeks to save his life will lose it but he who loses HIS life for MY sake will Find it!!

Good gracious!!! I've given you facts. As a student of the Greek, I broke down the actual Greek language meaning of the words, not what someone who wants to make up something for a book or movie!

At least try to give me your answer (interpretation) on the timing statements of the very passages that make your view hold water:

You have been clearly denying these time specific passages:

~ Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

~ Matt. 16:27,28 (27) "For the Son of Man is going to come (Greek word mello, meaning about to) in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. (28) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

~ Mark 8:38-9:1 (38) "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” (9:1) And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

~ Luke 9:26,27 (26) "Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (27) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.

Now I know you don't believe that some of those people are still alive today, do you??

~ Acts 17:31 For he has set a day when he will (Greek word mello, meaning about to) judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

I'll hold on to the phone waiting for your reply. Failure to answer shows you might be cowering in the corner shivering and crying? :eek: No all kidding aside, I would like you (and your authors of your books) to tell me that what John of Revelation told them was near and to shortly come, really meant 2000 years! After John told them that big fib (with his fingers crossed behind his back), he turned around and started snickering like the dog Precious...

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LOL...Afraid Not! I say these things BEFORE they happen, so when they do you’ll believe!

You do realize every generation since the crucifixion has thought the criptic signs of the end of time were coming in their lifetime. Every generation has also thought the world was becoming more and more evil when just the opposite has been occuring.
 
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Good gracious!!! I've given you facts. As a student of the Greek, I broke down the actual Greek language meaning of the words, not what someone who wants to make up something for a book or movie!

At least try to give me your answer (interpretation) on the timing statements of the very passages that make your view hold water:

You have been clearly denying these time specific passages:

~ Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

~ Matt. 16:27,28 (27) "For the Son of Man is going to come (Greek word mello, meaning about to) in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. (28) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

~ Mark 8:38-9:1 (38) "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” (9:1) And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

~ Luke 9:26,27 (26) "Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (27) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.

Now I know you don't believe that some of those people are still alive today, do you??

~ Acts 17:31 For he has set a day when he will (Greek word mello, meaning about to) judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

I'll hold on to the phone waiting for your reply. Failure to answer shows you might be cowering in the corner shivering and crying? :eek: No all kidding aside, I would like you (and your authors of your books) to tell me that what John of Revelation told them was near and to shortly come, really meant 2000 years! After John told them that big fib (with his fingers crossed behind his back), he turned around and started snickering like the dog Precious...

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Some people @treetiger amirite?
 
You do realize every generation since the crucifixion has thought the criptic signs of the end of time were coming in their lifetime. Every generation has also thought the world was becoming more and more evil when just the opposite has been occuring.

That's because everyone misunderstands the the meaning of the Greek timing words. I call it 'Rubberbanding', where they can take a word that means something near or imminent, and stretch it 2000 years long.

When Paul said he hoped that Timothy would come too you soon, the same word is used in Revelation 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. The Philippian Church probably did not think that Paul could mean 10, 100, 1000, or 2000 years? Yet they take the exact same word in Revelation 1:1 and do just that. Look up all the times when the word soon (Greek: ταχέως; Transliteration: tacheós) is used and show me where it does not mean soon, quickly, hastily, or shortly. Those bible commentators who neglect the proper usages of these words know that if they use the correct meaning(s) their assumptions come apart quickly...

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You do realize every generation since the crucifixion has thought the criptic signs of the end of time were coming in their lifetime. Every generation has also thought the world was becoming more and more evil when just the opposite has been occuring.
Not Every Generation has had the 112th Pope in Saint Malachi’s Prophecy. This is the 112th & Final Pope! “The Prophecy of the Popes has been hidden away in the Vatican Archives for over 900 years!” That’s the difference!
 
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Runaway thread, never coming back.

Almost 5 pages of y’all arguing over the end times. Keep on, I’m wanting this thread to hit #1.
 
Here is the issue I have with all the conspiracy theories. Having been around people all my life I have found that a group of people cannot keep a secret, under any circumstance. Someone always leaks the info. As magnanimous as some of these theories are, there is no way in hell anyone could keep these kind of cover-up's a secret without serious repercussions. Especially in today's social media, media frenzy society that we live in.

Just curious have you seen the amount of suicides involved with supposed people in know with 9/11? I was curious about this stuff over 10 years ago. The small plane crashes and suicides of potential whistle blowers were staggering.
My conclusion back then was that it was probably another Gulf of Tolkien move by the government. There were also declassified documents that showed the government was going to pull off terrorist attacks in the US to get the public behind a war with Cuba. It was signed off on all the way up to Kennedy. He didn't sign off on it though. And that is proof that it's in the playbook. Same way we got involved in WW1 and WW2.
 
Good gracious!!! I've given you facts. As a student of the Greek, I broke down the actual Greek language meaning of the words, not what someone who wants to make up something for a book or movie!

At least try to give me your answer (interpretation) on the timing statements of the very passages that make your view hold water:

You have been clearly denying these time specific passages:

~ Matt. 24:34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

~ Matt. 16:27,28 (27) "For the Son of Man is going to come (Greek word mello, meaning about to) in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. (28) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

~ Mark 8:38-9:1 (38) "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” (9:1) And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”

~ Luke 9:26,27 (26) "Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (27) “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.

Now I know you don't believe that some of those people are still alive today, do you??

~ Acts 17:31 For he has set a day when he will (Greek word mello, meaning about to) judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

I'll hold on to the phone waiting for your reply. Failure to answer shows you might be cowering in the corner shivering and crying? :eek: No all kidding aside, I would like you (and your authors of your books) to tell me that what John of Revelation told them was near and to shortly come, really meant 2000 years! After John told them that big fib (with his fingers crossed behind his back), he turned around and started snickering like the dog Precious...

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I could care a less how much Greek you know! What I said will come to pass right in front of your face! I’ve said what I had to say, MULTIPLE times! Sit back & watch! It’s right around the corner! A day to the the LORD is as a thousand years! And a thousand years is as a day! I’m not getting my interpretation from Revelation from a book. One of the functions of the Holy Spirit is to “Show you things to come!” You believe what you believe & I believe what I believe. Time will tell who’s right! I’d bet both lungs on my interpretation! for the record, I’ll say it one more time!

I believe there is a very good possibility our country experiences anarchy & possibly, Civil War between Liberals & Conservatives.

If Trump gets ousted we’re going into Bondage

We will become a Socialist Nation

It will affect our Religious Freedoms

They will impose outrageous Taxes

They will come after our guns. Global registration leads to confiscation.

Under the guise of Environmental Protection, Agenda 21 will be implemented. They will tell you where you can & can’t live & visit. They will impose a Global Climate Change Tax & a Global Carbon Footprint Tax.

They will impose very little air travel

They will make Worship on Saturday Illegal

They will confiscate property

They will cause us to take The Mark Of The Beast (Some Type if Computer Chip inserted in Hand or Forehead... Revelation 13)

They will try to make Everyone Globally Worship The Beast/Antichrist. Those who don’t will be Terminated.

Those who receive “The Mark of the Beast” & or Worship the Beast/ Antichrist will partake in one or more of 16 Plagues from GOD. Two Seals, 7 Trumpets & 7 Vials.
The first 5 Seals are what Papal Rome, The Beast/Antichrist & The NWO will do to humanity. The next 16 Plagues from GOD, starting in Revelation 6, The 6Th Seal. The Sixth Seal is when the people in the Entities that make up the NWO will be hiding in their underground cities (under Denver Airport, Headqtrs for the Illuminati, is one one example) They will be allowed to see JESUS sitting on his throne & they will call for the rocks & mountains to fall on them & hide them from the Lamb that sits on the Throne. (Revelation 6)

America will be the recipient of a EMP attack & a tactical Nuke attack. Washington D.C. will be one of the cities attacked. I believe this will happen in the Fourth Seal, The Rider on the Pale Horse. Authorities will blame the attack on China, Russia, Iran or North Korea or a combination of the four. Authorities will require citizens be transported to Shelters (FEMA Camps, there are 800 + in the US) Citizens will be told the will receive shelter, food, water, protection & clothing. This is a lie! Once @ the Camps, Citizens will be given the choice to be re-educated & they will be required to Worship The Beast/Antichrist. Those who don’t will be Terminated! The Mark of Beast could also be administered @ The FEMA Camps. I say that because both events are found in Revelation 13! However, the Mark of the Beast could be implemented @ some point before Citizens are taken to the Camps.
The enriched Plutonium will be released from a shuttle the Obama Administration launched on December 13th, 2012. I know this because I met the Special Ops man who told me about it. I asked him to give me 5 key words or phrases that someone who I know Who was in Special Ops would recognize. Two days after meeting this man, I spoke to the guy I know who was Special Ops. Mike, the guy I know, told me he recognized 3 out of the 5. He said the other two were probably the name of a mission specific to him.

Unfortunately, Time will reveal what I have shared with the board will come to pass. It doesn’t do anyone any good to argue about it. My hope & prayer for each person is they Receive JESUS as their Savior & LORD & they don’t worship the beast/antichrist or receive The Mark of the Beast/ Computer Chip. Everyone’s Eternal Soul depends On these decisions. (Revelation 13 & 14)

For those who disagree with some or all of the things I shared, I respect your opinions. Let’s agree to disagree. This thread could last till JESUS comes back if we keep going back & fourth. GOD Bless Y’all!
 
I don't think I will ever finish my book, 'The Five W's of Revelation', but if I did it would certainly open some eyes and minds. Of all the many Revelation books that I have read, I have not seen any other book use the this method. You have many verse by verse, chapter by chapter, views side by side, etc., but none written with this pattern.

Many over look the clues right in front of them when interpreting the Book of Revelation. Regarding the number of the beast (666), Rev. 13:18. It is almost universally thought that this beast represents to Roman Empire personified in its Emperor Nero, either by the early Roman period, or a new revived Roman Empire. This is further illustrated in Rev. 17:9, And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (10) And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

First, there is used in the ancient cultures of the Jews, Greeks, Roman, and Latin's, a form of coded numerology called gematria. Gematria is a form of numerology in which the letters of the Hebrew (or Greek or Latin) alphabet are substituted with corresponding numbers. The first ten letters are given number values that increase consecutively from 1 to 10.

Even though the Book of Revelation was written in Greek, it used Hebrew symbology, thus Hebrew gematria. Nero Caesar, written as Neron Kaisar by the Hebrews, adds up exactly to the Hebrew spelling of 666. In the Latin Vulgate the number is written 616, which equals Nero Caesar in Latin.

Back to the above Rev. 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The Hebrews view Julius Caesar as the first king or emperor, even though he was a dictator in the Roman Republic (See Josephus and other Jewish writings). Augustus Caesar (my avatar!) was officially the 1st Emperor of the Roman Empire, but not in the listing of Roman rulers (kings) by the Jews. So, starting with (1) Julius Caesar, (2) Augustus Caesar, (3) Tiberius Caesar, (4) Caligula Caesar, (5) Claudius Caesar, the five (5) who had fallen at the time of the writing of the Book of Revelation.

Rev. 17:10...and one is...(6) Nero Caesar...he must continue a short space (time)...Nero committed suicide on 9 June 68 AD. You then had three emperors in a short span, Galba (8 June 68 AD–15 January 69 AD), Otho (15 January 69 AD–16 April 69 AD), and Vitellius (17 April 69 AD–20 December 69 AD), before finally Gen. Vespasian was declared emperor by his army, and he marched on Rome and deposed Vitellius. He became emperor on 22 December 69, and ruled to his death on 24 June 79. Emperor Vespasian was the general that Nero sent to put down the Jewish rebellion in 66 AD. He had Jerusalem surrounded in 68 when Nero committed suicide. He withdrew from Jerusalem to return to Rome, and when he became emperor, he sent his son Titus back to siege Jerusalem again, which he did until its brutal fall in 70 AD.

Early Christians writers mention that it was at this time (Vespasian's withdrawal) that many of the Christians who were trapped in Jerusalem fled to Pella, in the mountains of Judea. Matt. 24: 16-22, "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; (17) Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. (18) Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. (19) How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! (20) Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. (21) For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. (22) “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

They were shortened because of Nero's death and Vespasian's withdrawal. They had a short time to get out before Titus returned, hence the call for urgency to leave.

I just watched something on the history channel like 2 weeks ago talking about the numerical value letters held in Hebrew. And they said Nero was the beast. And that makes complete sense considering how he treated Christians
 
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