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⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

AM claims in filings that he doesn’t owe the Satterfield heirs anything because they’ve been more than compensated by the settlements of the other defendants. Unbelievable!
Think if it was just a contract issue or something like that, it would actually have some standing. But if you sue for fraud then it doesn’t matter if they’ve been made whole or not.
 
Think if it was just a contract issue or something like that, it would actually have some standing. But if you sue for fraud then it doesn’t matter if they’ve been made whole or not.
Agree. In AM's world, he immediately recognizes his debts and liabilities to friends and family by confessing judgment. For his or his family's innocent victims (Satterfield family, Mallory Beach), he contests his liabilities. When your family has had the ability to orchestrate the legal system behind the scenes, this strategy once would have made sense. It doesn't now, and seems to be more of an indicia of who AM is as a person. AM seems positioned to spend decades behind bars....so why not do the right thing for as many of his families' victims as possible?
 


This should be interesting…

Money for drugs? Some sort of services?

Last payment was 10 days before Maggie and Paul were shot and killed.
That is interesting.

Let's see.....AM paid this guy over 150K and the last transaction was 10 days before the murders.

When AM needed a "hit man" to shoot him he calls the same guy.

IDK, seems fishy to me.

Then again, why would you leave a paper trail if you're paying a hit man?

Of course, AM has always believed he is above the law and untouchable so the details probably didn't matter to him.
 
AM could’ve just been a run of the mill lawyer, lived high on the hog and several generations of Murdaughs could’ve done the same. That family was set but greed got them in the end.
It is hard to understand how truly good Alex had it.

Regardless of where his family had gone before him, he was a truly likable guy. Had a lot of friends in law school. A smile for everybody and a joke and while some folks may have been jealous of his situation, it was hard to find anyone who said they didn't like him.

And its all gone, Wife gone. Son gone. Legacy gone.

I have seen this with lawyers and people in general before. You make one bad decision that starts the ball rolling. A few hundred bucks becomes a few thousand becomes ten thousand becomes you can't count it anymore because you are so deep in the hole you can't see above the ground anymore.

There is real objective truth in this world, right and wrong, and one of the most powerful tools in any man's toolbox is the ability to say no.
 
It is hard to understand how truly good Alex had it.

Regardless of where his family had gone before him, he was a truly likable guy. Had a lot of friends in law school. A smile for everybody and a joke and while some folks may have been jealous of his situation, it was hard to find anyone who said they didn't like him.

And its all gone, Wife gone. Son gone. Legacy gone.

I have seen this with lawyers and people in general before. You make one bad decision that starts the ball rolling. A few hundred bucks becomes a few thousand becomes ten thousand becomes you can't count it anymore because you are so deep in the hole you can't see above the ground anymore.

There is real objective truth in this world, right and wrong, and one of the most powerful tools in any man's toolbox is the ability to say no.
Honestly, since you've seen this in general before... do you mean in the news or in books or do you just happen to know people who wreck their lives?

Also, I don't think all the weird deaths around this family are easy to explain.

And another also.... this guy was born onto this. He didn't make it, he was perpetuating his family legacy through generations. Started on 3rd base, if you will.
 
Honestly, since you've seen this in general before... do you mean in the news or in books or do you just happen to know people who wreck their lives?

Also, I don't think all the weird deaths around this family are easy to explain.

And another also.... this guy was born onto this. He didn't make it, he was perpetuating his family legacy through generations. Started on 3rd base, if you will.
Honestly - I know three people, two in the USC Law 93 class, one in the USC Law 94 Class (Alex) who have stolen from people, destroyed their lives, their marriages families, their practices. In the two not Alex cases, it was because they made bad decisions with money, needed to get out of a hole, and then made bad professional decisions - that were criminal decisions - to try to cover the matters and ended up broke and in jail. One did time in SC, one is still in prison in FL. Alex is of course still in jail in SC. As a USC Law 94 alum, I can say I have been on a first name basis and had beers with all of them, but knew the other two (not Alex) quite well - roomed with one - and was devastated and disappointed at the decisions they made. And before you ask: one of them, no, I didn't see it coming, and one of them, yes, I wasn't surprised.

Looks like Alex is going to end up the same place as the other two. Except what he has lost was millions more because like you said he started on 3rd base. But while he's lost a lot more they are all ending up in the same place - jump suits, behind bars, family destroyed and estranged from kids, is going to be the same.

They ought to ask these guys not to come into law school and preach, but make their stories mandatory CLE (Continuing Legal Education) for Ethics hours. Do. Not. Steal. Whatever you are facing personally, bankruptcy, losing a house, whatever, its not as bad as what happens when you steal from people and go to jail and lose your soul.
 
Honestly - I know three people, two in the USC Law 93 class, one in the USC Law 94 Class (Alex) who have stolen from people, destroyed their lives, their marriages families, their practices. In the two not Alex cases, it was because they made bad decisions with money, needed to get out of a hole, and then made bad professional decisions - that were criminal decisions - to try to cover the matters and ended up broke and in jail. One did time in SC, one is still in prison in FL. Alex is of course still in jail in SC. As a USC Law 94 alum, I can say I have been on a first name basis and had beers with all of them, but knew the other two (not Alex) quite well - roomed with one - and was devastated and disappointed at the decisions they made. And before you ask: one of them, no, I didn't see it coming, and one of them, yes, I wasn't surprised.

Looks like Alex is going to end up the same place as the other two. Except what he has lost was millions more because like you said he started on 3rd base. But while he's lost a lot more they are all ending up in the same place - jump suits, behind bars, family destroyed and estranged from kids, is going to be the same.

They ought to ask these guys not to come into law school and preach, but make their stories mandatory CLE (Continuing Legal Education) for Ethics hours. Do. Not. Steal. Whatever you are facing personally, bankruptcy, losing a house, whatever, its not as bad as what happens when you steal from people and go to jail and lose your soul.
Good stuff and I agree, except I heard AM was a hot head.
 
Honestly - I know three people, two in the USC Law 93 class, one in the USC Law 94 Class (Alex) who have stolen from people, destroyed their lives, their marriages families, their practices. In the two not Alex cases, it was because they made bad decisions with money, needed to get out of a hole, and then made bad professional decisions - that were criminal decisions - to try to cover the matters and ended up broke and in jail. One did time in SC, one is still in prison in FL. Alex is of course still in jail in SC. As a USC Law 94 alum, I can say I have been on a first name basis and had beers with all of them, but knew the other two (not Alex) quite well - roomed with one - and was devastated and disappointed at the decisions they made. And before you ask: one of them, no, I didn't see it coming, and one of them, yes, I wasn't surprised.

Looks like Alex is going to end up the same place as the other two. Except what he has lost was millions more because like you said he started on 3rd base. But while he's lost a lot more they are all ending up in the same place - jump suits, behind bars, family destroyed and estranged from kids, is going to be the same.

They ought to ask these guys not to come into law school and preach, but make their stories mandatory CLE (Continuing Legal Education) for Ethics hours. Do. Not. Steal. Whatever you are facing personally, bankruptcy, losing a house, whatever, its not as bad as what happens when you steal from people and go to jail and lose your soul.
Well said. Thanks for sharing, bud.
 
Not disputing that but that was not a side I ever saw. But was not close to him. Just a guy in class, talk in the halls and see out at parties and in 5 points.
I met a couple in Louisville this year who knew AM at law school too, and said he was a great guy back then. Like in their "friend group" and all, and they never saw this coming.
 
It is hard to understand how truly good Alex had it.

Regardless of where his family had gone before him, he was a truly likable guy. Had a lot of friends in law school. A smile for everybody and a joke and while some folks may have been jealous of his situation, it was hard to find anyone who said they didn't like him.

And its all gone, Wife gone. Son gone. Legacy gone.

I have seen this with lawyers and people in general before. You make one bad decision that starts the ball rolling. A few hundred bucks becomes a few thousand becomes ten thousand becomes you can't count it anymore because you are so deep in the hole you can't see above the ground anymore.

There is real objective truth in this world, right and wrong, and one of the most powerful tools in any man's toolbox is the ability to say no.
You must have known a different AM than the guy a lot of my hunt club lawyer members know. They describe him as a loud mouthed arrogant ass. The guy you described sounds like how they all described his older brother Randy. But, your points as to how he fell are well on point.
 
You must have known a different AM than the guy a lot of my hunt club lawyer members know. They describe him as a loud mouthed arrogant ass. The guy you described sounds like how they all described his older brother Randy. But, your points as to how he fell are well on point.
I saw him as more like a loud funny and goofy guy than arrogant. But maybe it changed after law school.
 
Honestly - I know three people, two in the USC Law 93 class, one in the USC Law 94 Class (Alex) who have stolen from people, destroyed their lives, their marriages families, their practices. In the two not Alex cases, it was because they made bad decisions with money, needed to get out of a hole, and then made bad professional decisions - that were criminal decisions - to try to cover the matters and ended up broke and in jail. One did time in SC, one is still in prison in FL. Alex is of course still in jail in SC. As a USC Law 94 alum, I can say I have been on a first name basis and had beers with all of them, but knew the other two (not Alex) quite well - roomed with one - and was devastated and disappointed at the decisions they made. And before you ask: one of them, no, I didn't see it coming, and one of them, yes, I wasn't surprised.

Looks like Alex is going to end up the same place as the other two. Except what he has lost was millions more because like you said he started on 3rd base. But while he's lost a lot more they are all ending up in the same place - jump suits, behind bars, family destroyed and estranged from kids, is going to be the same.

They ought to ask these guys not to come into law school and preach, but make their stories mandatory CLE (Continuing Legal Education) for Ethics hours. Do. Not. Steal. Whatever you are facing personally, bankruptcy, losing a house, whatever, its not as bad as what happens when you steal from people and go to jail and lose your soul.
Thanks for expounding on that. You're really on to something with the CLE, it should probably be part of reduced sentencing agreement as their stories need to be heard and heeded.
 
I met a couple in Louisville this year who knew AM at law school too, and said he was a great guy back then. Like in their "friend group" and all, and they never saw this coming.
This may be telling about the Louisville couple. If they ask you for help changing their tire, tell them you'll call AAA once you get to your phone, which you left in your car. Call AAA after you have cleared the scene.
 
This may be telling about the Louisville couple. If they ask you for help changing their tire, tell them you'll call AAA once you get to your phone, which you left in your car. Call AAA after you have cleared the scene.
Nah, they were normal Clemson fans who just happened to have gone to school with him, and said back then he seemed normal. In fact, they were both surprised at his behavior now, but being lawyers, they've seen an awful lot and admitted it can happen for sure.
 
You must have known a different AM than the guy a lot of my hunt club lawyer members know. They describe him as a loud mouthed arrogant ass. The guy you described sounds like how they all described his older brother Randy. But, your points as to how he fell are well on point.
Could have changed after he got “in the rabbit hole”
 
They ought to ask these guys not to come into law school and preach, but make their stories mandatory CLE (Continuing Legal Education) for Ethics hours. Do. Not. Steal. Whatever you are facing personally, bankruptcy, losing a house, whatever, its not as bad as what happens when you steal from people and go to jail and lose your soul.
Do you see any chance their will be more stringent oversight on client trust funds? Maybe require an external audit for funds with amounts or transactions exceeding certain amounts? Do any states do anything different in this area?
 
My belief is that some of the outlets that are covering this have lost their objectivity. It certainly appears that AM was involved in some nefarious activities, but I listened to the 911 call when they were reporting the trip and fall, and I did not think the family did anything wrong, other than being a little short with the 911 operator. Its like the news outlets can't fathom the notion that it actually could have been an accident.
 
My belief is that some of the outlets that are covering this have lost their objectivity. It certainly appears that AM was involved in some nefarious activities, but I listened to the 911 call when they were reporting the trip and fall, and I did not think the family did anything wrong, other than being a little short with the 911 operator. Its like the news outlets can't fathom the notion that it actually could have been an accident.
I've listened to that call several times and learned for the first time that Mrs Satterfield was described as falling "up" the stairs. If that is accurate, I have a hard time believing that caused a brain bleed so severe that she could not survive.Falling UP stairs sucks for sure, but how do you build up enough momentum to blow your brain out? Can't think of a reason why this would've been misreported, but it just strikes me as odd. Or...maybe I misheard the call.
 
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I've listened to that call several times and learned for the first time that Mrs Satterfield was described as falling "up" the stairs. If that is accurate, I have a hard time believing that caused a brain bleed so severe that she could not survive.Falling UP stairs sucks for sure, but how do you build up enough momentum to blow your brain out? Can't think of a reason why this would've been misreported, but it just strikes me as odd. Or...maybe I misheard the call.
I did not catch that part of it, although if one is elderly and frail and hits their head on a brick step then it seems that could be serious. Either way, the people who would know what happened are all dead so I’m not sure what the authorities think they will find.
 
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I've listened to that call several times and learned for the first time that Mrs Satterfield was described as falling "up" the stairs. If that is accurate, I have a hard time believing that caused a brain bleed so severe that she could not survive.Falling UP stairs sucks for sure, but how do you build up enough momentum to blow your brain out? Can't think of a reason why this would've been misreported, but it just strikes me as odd. Or...maybe I misheard the call.
I caught the falling up the stairs too. The call version differs from the later reporting. Not sure how calm or accurate I'd be if my loyal staff was lying in a semiconscious state with blood surrounding her head and flowing from her ear. As the Queen of the United Kingdom might state, I guess "recollections vary."
 
side note: it seems like AM is not the only horrible human being in that part of the state by a long shot. The latest lawsuit filed against the CEO of the C-store that sold Paul the booze is HORRIBLE if even just a fraction of the allegations are true. If you haven't investigated that aspect of the case, it is well worth the effort. Turns out the outlying story lines are really interesting too.
 
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My belief is that some of the outlets that are covering this have lost their objectivity. It certainly appears that AM was involved in some nefarious activities, but I listened to the 911 call when they were reporting the trip and fall, and I did not think the family did anything wrong, other than being a little short with the 911 operator. Its like the news outlets can't fathom the notion that it actually could have been an accident.
By “some of the outlets,” I assume you mean the Mandy Marney podcast. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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I did not catch that part of it, although if one is elderly and frail and hits their head on a brick step then it seems that could be serious. Either way, the people who would know what happened are all dead so I’m not sure what the authorities think they will find.
Wasn’t she 58. That isn’t my idea of elderly, but maybe she wasn’t in great shape.
 
side note: it seems like AM is not the only horrible human being in that part of the state by a long shot. The latest lawsuit filed against the CEO of the C-store that sold Paul the booze is HORRIBLE if even just a fraction of the allegations are true. If you haven't investigated that aspect of the case, it is well worth the effort. Turns out the outlying plots lines are really interesting too.
CEO of a convenience store? Or the CEO of a chain?

If you come across side plot articles, drop a link here. This is all fascinating.
 
My belief is that some of the outlets that are covering this have lost their objectivity. It certainly appears that AM was involved in some nefarious activities, but I listened to the 911 call when they were reporting the trip and fall, and I did not think the family did anything wrong, other than being a little short with the 911 operator. Its like the news outlets can't fathom the notion that it actually could have been an accident.
People who think the family did no wrong have not heard stories of PM telling his friends that he pushed her down the stairs.
 
People who think the family did no wrong have not heard stories of PM telling his friends that he pushed her down the stairs.
I heard that but there are no eye witnesses who are alive, and there was nothing on the 911 call that would lead one to believe that. Just no concrete evidence, although I would not be shocked if there was foul play involved.
 
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