COVID UPDATE: What is the truth?

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Do you understand math? If the large majority of the population is vaccinated, it's not crazy hard to understand how more of them died.

I do understand math. I also know that the percentage of the population that's got the shot is 67%, and has been steady for over a year,

The percentage of the population that's gotten the shot is staying constant, while the percentage of shot takers that are covid victims is dramatically increasing.

Those are just facts. If those upset you then that's on you.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The question is, how many of you got the vax? How many are you scared?

I personally did not get the vax because it smelled very fishy from the get go.

I am a pure blood. But I'm very worried for everyone who got the shots. Does that count?

 

[dpic73]

I do understand math. I also know that the percentage of the population that's got the shot is 67%, and has been steady for over a year,

The percentage of the population that's gotten the shot is staying constant, while the percentage of shot takers that are covid victims is dramatically increasing.

Those are just facts. If those upset you then that's on you.

79% have gotten at least one shot and even though many of those were from 2 years ago, they still get counted as vaccinated, even though their immunity has waned due to not getting boosters. The longer away you are from being vaccinated, the higher the mortality percentage.

You're not fooling a soul except for the people that already believe as you do. You know, people that became anti-vaxxers because Trump lost. LMFAO

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

79% have gotten at least one shot and even though many of those were from 2 years ago, they still get counted as vaccinated, even though their immunity has waned due to not getting boosters. The longer away you are from being vaccinated, the higher the mortality percentage.

You're not fooling a soul except for the people that already believe as you do. You know, people that became anti-vaxxers because Trump lost. LMFAO

Trump said get the shots. So if you did, then you obeyed his orders.

As I said, what's done is done. All I can do is wish you good luck and God Bless.

 

[dpic73]

Trump said get the shots. So if you did, then you obeyed his orders.

As I said, what's done is done. All I can do is wish you good luck and God Bless.

More misinformation. He said it a year AFTER the election and didn't even announce that he got vaccinated when he did.

Tell me this, how is it that when someone shitposts about the danger of vaccines, I know immediately that they are a Republican Trump supporter??

This is all so, so stupid and transparent.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

More misinformation. He said it a year AFTER the election

He said it before the 2020 election. Because Biden and all the dems rushed out to say hell no dont take the shots. Cuomo even refused to have it distributed.

Then Biden won* and magically.....a switch flipped and suddenly all dems said get the shots.

Same shots that Trump said get a couple of weeks earlier, and they said it would kill you.

You shot cheerleaders project on this issue like no other: You claim Trump supporters blindly follow Trump, but most Trump supporters did NOT get the shot after Trump told us to.

Meanwhile, almost all dems refused to get the shots when Trump said get them, then after the election Biden said get the SAME SHOT, and you guys couldn't dash to Walgreens fast enough to get jabbed.

It's mass brainwashing. All I can figure. But as always, good luck with your decision.

 

[scotchtiger]

You know, people that became anti-vaxxers because Trump lost. LMFAO

What about people who chose not to get the vaccine after evaluating the data, the science, that very clearly indicated extremely limited benefit for healthy, normal BMI people in their 30s and their very young children? People that weighed Trump and politics exactly 0% in their decision?

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people like that. But yes there are morons who make health decisions based on politics, on both sides. I shake my head at some of the COVID related decisions made by people in the left. Ones that have not followed the data, followed the science.

And there is definitely revisionist history about the vaccine and Trump. He’s always been pro vaccine. I think the majority of the right’s anti-vax reaction was due to the erosion of credibility from the CDC and Fauci as well as the mandates/requirements. People who favor freedom and less government control inherently don’t respond well to forced government mandates.

 

[dpic73]

He said it before the 2020 election. Because Biden and all the dems rushed out to say hell no dont take the shots. Cuomo even refused to have it distributed.

Then Biden won* and magically.....a switch flipped and suddenly all dems said get the shots.

Same shots that Trump said get a couple of weeks earlier, and they said it would kill you.

You shot cheerleaders project on this issue like no other: You claim Trump supporters blindly follow Trump, but most Trump supporters did NOT get the shot after Trump told us to.

Meanwhile, almost all dems refused to get the shots when Trump said get them, then after the election Biden said get the SAME SHOT, and you guys couldn't dash to Walgreens fast enough to get jabbed.

It's mass brainwashing. All I can figure. But as always, good luck with your decision.

Cotdamn right wing media has destroyed your ability to reason or see the truth. Kamala and Joe DID NOT say don't get the shot. They said they wouldn't get it if the FDA approved it prematurely due to Trumps pressure campaign. So you LIED.
No democrats were against the vaccine after the FDA approved it. You LIED again.

Only MAGAs decided that making Biden look bad was more important than getting vaccinated, because their politics are more important than facts. And now you have to keep up the charade in an effort to not look stupid because you can't admit to yourself that you've been had

But you have...

 

[BillCutting4585]

What about people who chose not to get the vaccine after evaluating the data, the science, that very clearly indicated extremely limited benefit for healthy, normal BMI people in their 30s and their very young children? People that weighed Trump and politics exactly 0% in their decision?

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people like that. But yes there are morons who make health decisions based on politics, on both sides. I shake my head at some of the COVID related decisions made by people in the left. Ones that have not followed the data, followed the science.

And there is definitely revisionist history about the vaccine and Trump. He’s always been pro vaccine. I think the majority of the right’s anti-vax reaction was due to the erosion of credibility from the CDC and Fauci as well as the mandates/requirements. People who favor freedom and less government control inherently don’t respond well to forced government mandates.

Admittedly, I am anti government and hate both sides. I do hate democrats more.

With that said, I chose to not get the vaccine due to it being rushed and if I were to get it, I wanted to see the data. Based off the data, I will not be getting it as their is zero benefit.

I also do not believe in covid passports and was able to create my own in order to get into venues or places due to the politicization of the vaccine. That was my way of giving the middle finger for all to see.

I also will not chastise those who did get it, live and let live. My body, my choice, right?

 

[scotchtiger]

And now you have to keep up the charade in an effort to not look stupid because you can't admit to yourself that you've been had

But you have...

Hold on. Who has been “had” in this scenario:

Healthy, normal BMI couple in their 30s with very young children, and with natural immunity.

-Vaccinated the entire family, including young children because of mandates and inaccurate information about vaccine effectiveness.

-Did not vaccinate the family. Have had zero negative consequences, no reinfections and all four members are perfectly healthy with continued strong immune systems.

I’m scenario number 2, and I certainly don’t feel “had.” In fact, the more we learn, the more confident I become in our family’s decision. No charade, no emotion, just pure, clean logic, data and reasoned decision making.

 

[other1]

Admittedly, I am anti government and hate both sides. I do hate democrats more.

With that said, I chose to not get the vaccine due to it being rushed and if I were to get it, I wanted to see the data. Based off the data, I will not be getting it as their is zero benefit.

I also do not believe in covid passports and was able to create my own in order to get into venues or places due to the politicization of the vaccine. That was my way of giving the middle finger for all to see.

I also will not chastise those who did get it, live and let live. My body, my choice, right?

What data are you referring to as to zero benefit from the vaccine???

 

[dpic73]

Hold on. Who has been “had” in this scenario:

Healthy, normal BMI couple in their 30s with very young children, and with natural immunity.

-Vaccinated the entire family, including young children because of mandates and inaccurate information about vaccine effectiveness.

-Did not vaccinate the family. Have had zero negative consequences, no reinfections and all four members are perfectly healthy with continued strong immune systems.

I’m scenario number 2, and I certainly don’t feel “had.” In fact, the more we learn, the more confident I become in our family’s decision. No charade, no emotion, just pure, clean logic, data and reasoned decision making.

I'm traveling so don't have time for a detailed response, but if you were truly weighing risks, you would have gotten vaccinated. It was riskier to not get the vaccine than to get it.

I don't care if you get it or not and it's your decision- that doesn't make it the best one if you're truly relying on facts.

You of all people should know better.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Cotdamn right wing media has destroyed your ability to reason or see the truth. Kamala and Joe DID NOT say don't get the shot. They said they wouldn't get it if the FDA approved it prematurely due to Trumps pressure campaign. So you LIED.
No democrats were against the vaccine after the FDA approved it. You LIED again.

Sigh. The shots were EUA, that stands for Emergency Use Authorization.

Not approved by the FDA.

You got hoodwinked. I'm sorry.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Hold on. Who has been “had” in this scenario:

Healthy, normal BMI couple in their 30s with very young children, and with natural immunity.

-Vaccinated the entire family, including young children because of mandates and inaccurate information about vaccine effectiveness.

-Did not vaccinate the family. Have had zero negative consequences, no reinfections and all four members are perfectly healthy with continued strong immune systems.

I’m scenario number 2, and I certainly don’t feel “had.” In fact, the more we learn, the more confident I become in our family’s decision. No charade, no emotion, just pure, clean logic, data and reasoned decision making.

I have friends and family that have gotten the shots. For all of them, they painstakingly researched them, and it was after much worry and discussion that they decided to get the shots. Still not knowing if they made the right choice.

I would love for the poster about to be proven 100% right about the shots. Nothing would please me more.

Then again, I put the health and safety of my friends and family above my politics.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I'm traveling so don't have time for a detailed response, but if you were truly weighing risks, you would have gotten vaccinated. It was riskier to not get the vaccine than to get it.

The choices were take a shot that wasn't approved by the FDA, or risk getting a flu strain with the same mortality rate as the seasonal flu.

The media fear mongering caused many people to see a risk in not getting the shots that simply did not exist.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

OG Pureblood

 

[BillCutting4585]

What data are you referring to as to zero benefit from the vaccine???

People who got the shot are dying from Covid, what benefit would there be to getting it now that there is data. The entire reason for getting the shot was to make sure you didn’t get the virus, which is now a lie. It changed to if you got Covid, it lessened the symptoms, which is debatable as variants emerged, big pharma couldn’t keep up.

The government gave big pharma a pass on any responsibility when it came to vaccine injury, meaning there can be no lawsuits against big pharma for any injuries and death. The people who got the vax are the sample test group and we’re seeing people who got vaxed, multiple times, dying from Covid.

Where is the benefit from getting it?

I haven’t even touched on Covid origins but that’s brought to you by our tax dollars.

 

[jfegaly]

Article states in Sept of 21, 21% of covid deaths were from the 'vaccinated'.

In February of this year, the total was 42%.

In August, it was 58%.

Sad thing about this is it's kinda pointless to argue it at this point. All we can do is say good luck to those that got the shots and wish them well.

Wow!

 

[flotiger]

Anti vac people talking about logic, reason, science like they know what that is. I can accept a reason of I don't want to and that's all there is to it much easier. Stop trying to justify your stance with erroneous information. It's sad what's happening to society. We're getting dumber by the year.

 

[flotiger]

Wow!

Read the whole damn article.

 

[scotchtiger]

I'm traveling so don't have time for a detailed response, but if you were truly weighing risks, you would have gotten vaccinated. It was riskier to not get the vaccine than to get it.

I don't care if you get it or not and it's your decision- that doesn't make it the best one if you're truly relying on facts.

You of all people should know better.

How can you possibly make that claim with certainty when we don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine? With how it impacts how the body deals with variants? With how it impacts how you manage other infections?

I know for an absolute fact that my family dispatched of COVID with ease with our immune systems. Why on earth would I want to change that? Knowing that COVID presented a statistically infinitesimal risk to the profiles of each of my family members (we’re not olds, fats or cormorbids), and watching how my family reacted to COVID (easily), followed by the highly variable and questionably accurate guidance from Fauci/CDC, combined with limited approval by regulatory bodies (emergency use authorization)…

How can I definitively say that there was less risk getting the vaccine? There isn’t a compelling argument to make me think we made the wrong, or riskier, decision.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

What about people who chose not to get the vaccine after evaluating the data, the science, that very clearly indicated extremely limited benefit for healthy, normal BMI people in their 30s and their very young children? People that weighed Trump and politics exactly 0% in their decision?

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people like that. But yes there are morons who make health decisions based on politics, on both sides. I shake my head at some of the COVID related decisions made by people in the left. Ones that have not followed the data, followed the science.

And there is definitely revisionist history about the vaccine and Trump. He’s always been pro vaccine. I think the majority of the right’s anti-vax reaction was due to the erosion of credibility from the CDC and Fauci as well as the mandates/requirements. People who favor freedom and less government control inherently don’t respond well to forced government mandates.

I was just reading about an email Fauci wrote telling another doctor that masks were of absolutely no value

Yet soon after he starts the mask mandate and control freak stuff along with having the FBI and mainstream media and big tech kill off adking was the virus a result of the Wuhan lab

I now refer to him as Doctor Death as it is my gut feeling he helped fund the virus that has killed millions of Americans

I know i am the crazy one as I always knew there was not a shred of evidence to support Russian collusion by Trump snd there was red hot smoking gun barrel in Joe and Hunter Biden that will show they are compromised and Chinese spies against America

Prove me wrong folks as the evidence comes from the Russian disinformation laptop

Oops that was another disinformation forced on Americans claiming it to be the real truth

Anybody who accepts what is coming from Washington without careful vetting is well judge yourself

One day we will find out the open borders policy was a result of political cronies making money off of the chaos at the border

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

How can you possibly make that claim with certainty when we don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine? With how it impacts how the body deals with variants? With how it impacts how you manage other infections?

I know for an absolute fact that my family dispatched of COVID with ease with our immune systems. Why on earth would I want to change that? Knowing that COVID presented a statistically infinitesimal risk to the profiles of each of my family members (we’re not olds, fats or cormorbids), and watching how my family reacted to COVID (easily), followed by the highly variable and questionably accurate guidance from Fauci/CDC, combined with limited approval by regulatory bodies (emergency use authorization)…

How can I definitively say that there was less risk getting the vaccine? There isn’t a compelling argument to make me think we made the wrong, or riskier, decision.

Your decision may have saved your childrens lives

I have friends who are suffering seizures and such with no explantion

Common thread is Covid Vaccination

Check on that

 

[scotchtiger]

Your decision may have saved your childrens lives

I have friends who are suffering seizures and such with no explantion

Common thread is Covid Vaccination

Check on that

Nothing for me to check on. Sitting here in November of 2022, I can’t imagine a reason to vaccinate my healthy family against COVID. Seriously, what is the upside right now for a 40, 39, 6 and 2 year old - all completely healthy, normal BMI, no comorbidities, etc? The greatest upside is slightly less “severe” symptoms from something that is like a basic cold?

It’s all incredibly stupid. I understand how people were vax enthusiasts when they believed Fauci and Biden about it making you truly immune to contracting the virus and spreading the virus. But now we all know better. So take the newest information and adjust your perspective.

Given the benefit of hindsight, I was right. The decision for my family was correct. The people trying to force it on us were wrong. Facts, period.

 

[BillCutting4585]

I was just reading about an email Fauci wrote telling another doctor that masks were of absolutely no value

Yet soon after he starts the mask mandate and control freak stuff along with having the FBI and mainstream media and big tech kill off adking was the virus a result of the Wuhan lab

I now refer to him as Doctor Death as it is my gut feeling he helped fund the virus that has killed millions of Americans

I know i am the crazy one as I always knew there was not a shred of evidence to support Russian collusion by Trump snd there was red hot smoking gun barrel in Joe and Hunter Biden that will show they are compromised and Chinese spies against America

Prove me wrong folks as the evidence comes from the Russian disinformation laptop

Oops that was another disinformation forced on Americans claiming it to be the real truth

Anybody who accepts what is coming from Washington without careful vetting is well judge yourself

One day we will find out the open borders policy was a result of political cronies making money off of the chaos at the border

Follow the money

Government collects taxes, Fauci grants money to EcoHealth Alliance, money flows to Wuhan Lab, Covid gets released.

Peter Dashyk, ceo of EcoHealth Allience, gets kickback from Chinese government for giving grant money to Wuhan for gain of function research.

Fauci knew this was going on and still sent money to EcoHealth Alliance.

Fauci lied in congressional testimony and it’s why Rand Paul has repeatedly gone after Fauci.

Fauci is a treasonous pos who deserves the firing squad for the millions of lives lost do to his constantly lying and granting money for gain of function research.

Now, if you truly think anything was going to happen to Fauci, that’s cute. Fauci’s reign at the NIAID is about to come to an end, keep an eye on his net worth as it’s about to skyrocket.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Follow the money

Government collects taxes, Fauci grants money to EcoHealth Alliance, money flows to Wuhan Lab, Covid gets released.

Peter Dashyk, ceo of EcoHealth Allience, gets kickback from Chinese government for giving grant money to Wuhan for gain of function research.

Fauci knew this was going on and still sent money to EcoHealth Alliance.

Fauci lied in congressional testimony and it’s why Rand Paul has repeatedly gone after Fauci.

Fauci is a treasonous pos who deserves the firing squad for the millions of lives lost do to his constantly lying and granting money for gain of function research.

Now, if you truly think anything was going to happen to Fauci, that’s cute. Fauci’s reign at the NIAID is about to come to an end, keep an eye on his net worth as it’s about to skyrocket.

Though I am a huge believer in having solid evidence before accusing someone of anything i must say there are huge circumstantial evidence and smoke with many crisis the present administration is pushing

Let’s let the Congressional people investigate and see what they dig up

My gut says dome really bad stuff however the world is full of denier zombies who see or hear nothing except what they are programmed to believe

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

My gut says dome really bad stuff however the world is full of denier zombies who see or hear nothing except what they are programmed to believe

Too many people, especially on the left, have lost the ability to critically think.

 

[scotchtiger]

Too many people, especially on the left, have lost the ability to critically think.

I mean, look at the people you saw wearing a mask by themself in their car, or walking down an empty street. Those people had a mental disorder. There is no logic, or data, or science, or anything that supported that. Just pure indoctrination.

 

[dpic73]

How can you possibly make that claim with certainty when we don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine? With how it impacts how the body deals with variants? With how it impacts how you manage other infections?

I know for an absolute fact that my family dispatched of COVID with ease with our immune systems. Why on earth would I want to change that? Knowing that COVID presented a statistically infinitesimal risk to the profiles of each of my family members (we’re not olds, fats or cormorbids), and watching how my family reacted to COVID (easily), followed by the highly variable and questionably accurate guidance from Fauci/CDC, combined with limited approval by regulatory bodies (emergency use authorization)…

How can I definitively say that there was less risk getting the vaccine? There isn’t a compelling argument to make me think we made the wrong, or riskier, decision.

How can you definitely say that getting COVID naturally doesn't have long term effects? There is plenty of evidence that long covid is a real thing, there is no evidence that mRNA has a long term effect. In fact it is eliminated from the body within a few days.

Your research does not make you smarter than experts that have spent their lives studying virology and mRNA. You should be embarrassed casting doubt on it and setting this precedent that it's smart to be unvaccinated. The next virus could be much deadlier and worse for child mortality and people that trust you and listen to you could pay the price. If you don't want to take it fine, but keep that shit private. There is no benefit to coming on here and bragging about it.

 

[dpic73]

Follow the money

Government collects taxes, Fauci grants money to EcoHealth Alliance, money flows to Wuhan Lab, Covid gets released.

Peter Dashyk, ceo of EcoHealth Allience, gets kickback from Chinese government for giving grant money to Wuhan for gain of function research.

Fauci knew this was going on and still sent money to EcoHealth Alliance.

Fauci lied in congressional testimony and it’s why Rand Paul has repeatedly gone after Fauci.

Fauci is a treasonous pos who deserves the firing squad for the millions of lives lost do to his constantly lying and granting money for gain of function research.

Now, if you truly think anything was going to happen to Fauci, that’s cute. Fauci’s reign at the NIAID is about to come to an end, keep an eye on his net worth as it’s about to skyrocket.

You are a despicable. POS. You're also in a cult.

 

[dpic73]

OG Pureblood

You should be ashamed to say that, like it's something to be proud of.

 

[dpic73]

Nothing for me to check on. Sitting here in November of 2022, I can’t imagine a reason to vaccinate my healthy family against COVID. Seriously, what is the upside right now for a 40, 39, 6 and 2 year old - all completely healthy, normal BMI, no comorbidities, etc? The greatest upside is slightly less “severe” symptoms from something that is like a basic cold?

It’s all incredibly stupid. I understand how people were vax enthusiasts when they believed Fauci and Biden about it making you truly immune to contracting the virus and spreading the virus. But now we all know better. So take the newest information and adjust your perspective.

Given the benefit of hindsight, I was right. The decision for my family was correct. The people trying to force it on us were wrong. Facts, period.

You were not right. It wasnt a fact based decision as it would have resulted in zero harm to you and your family. You made a decision to make Biden look bad - period.

 

[dpic73]

The choices were take a shot that wasn't approved by the FDA, or risk getting a flu strain with the same mortality rate as the seasonal flu.

The media fear mongering caused many people to see a risk in not getting the shots that simply did not exist.

Have you ever seen a non-stop flu that got worse in the summer and killed hundreds of thousands of people in a years time? You trust FoxNews over experts because you want to, not because of the facts. Are we really supposed to believe that hardcore MAGAs are smarter than the majority of experts that have spent their lives studying epidemiology?

 

[dpic73]

Too many people, especially on the left, have lost the ability to critically think.

If you really used your mind, you would trust the experts. The experiments you did in your garage are not a reason to believe you know more than they do. Not that you care anyway because your decision is purely political. You're lying if you say otherwise.

 

[TigerGrowls]

 

[jakefest]

It’s all math, so I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you.

Oh, got it.....we are trusting the math now and not the science. Makes good sense

 

[scotchtiger]

You were not right. It wasnt a fact based decision as it would have resulted in zero harm to you and your family. You made a decision to make Biden look bad - period.

Lol. Our decision had nothing to do with Biden. Unlike some, I don’t let politics affect decisions like that.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Lol. Our decision had nothing to do with Biden. Unlike some, I don’t let politics affect decisions like that.

Yesterday I heard a statistical fact that set me back

The daily deaths from Fentanol ( spelling) is higher on a per day basis than deaths during the span of WW2 with global combat and invasions daily

How crazy is that

You would think the administration would consider a death rate exceeding the WW2 daily death rate a crisis

Nope it’s an opportunity

Allow Americans to die to push an agenda

That is fantastic politics

And the sad part of this is that people will vote for that leadership regardless

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

On the vaccines I have or had a lot of faith in them until the recent clown show

My recent flu shot which i have taken forever like 40 years resulted in my arm almost being unusable for weeks due to a reaction with the shot location

Having many friends having all sorts of reactions to the new generation of vaccines

We need to pause this drumbeat of voices and let natural immunity do it’s job

I had the Covid vaccines and still caught Covid several times with mild cases

No more vaccines for me

Covid is for me a 2 day sniffle so why worry and endanger myself with the crazy vaccine everything that moved

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I mean, look at the people you saw wearing a mask by themself in their car, or walking down an empty street. Those people had a mental disorder.

In 2020 we learned that there is a significant portion of this country that was literally willing to put their own politics above their own health and public safety.

I never thought some of the people in this country were that brainwashed.