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DOW 30,000 by end of year

Thanks Obama.

Not investment advice. Bet the mortgage on Clemson.

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Thanks Obama is right... His shitty reign as President helped to pave the way for the MAGA age we're living in now...

If Obama hadn't sucked so bad, Trump may have never been elected...thanks Obama...

#MAGA
#KGA
Obama said GDP would never get to 3% again what an idiot. A community organizer at best that knew zero about the economy . Thanks Trump for getting this country moving again.
 
Doubling every 10 years is a 7.2% annual return. That would be a significant decrease from the historical average the S&P has shown. Without looking at the historical numbers I am certain it is below the historical growth for corporate earnings too. While tariffs, mid-terms, hurricanes, bird flu, Greece, and dictators are all very important to watch, earnings is the mother's milk for the market and almost the only thing I give serious credence to outside the FED.

My point is we should be at the least doubling every 10 years, including recessions, tariffs, mid-terms, hurricanes, bird flu, Greece, dictators and the other noise that people irrationally crap the bed over.
You are right S&P historically since before the crash of 29 has doubled every 7 years approx or around a 10% rate of return per year.
 
EU has already announced they have a goal of dropping all their tarriffs.
Like him or hate him, the fact is Trump is winning. The lower corporate tax will have companies moving here for years to come, and pay will keep going up.

And Obama told us those jobs were GONE and not coming back, right?

Obama did everything he could to destroy America, and Bush hurt us, too.

We are entering a Golden Age, economically.

SPOT DAMN ON. Oh wait, no let’s go back to ObamaNomics and see how far that gets us.

I want more Bernie Sanders types. Not.

Dow don’t lie folks

Socialism doesn’t work, I submit to the court exhibit A which is Venezuela.

And I agree Bush didn’t help us either.
 
What is the point you're trying to make when you say that?
Yes, I dont know either. I dont give a shit if Trump moves into Hugh Hefners Playboy mansion tomorrow.
Bottomline is if you cant make money in this Economy now, you never will or just plain Lazy as F%$K.

If you care more about "Morals" from the POTUS, where have you been for the last 50 years?
 
Funny... will be interesting to see. I am guessing he won because of the Russians (halfway joking), and because the Dems figured they had it wrapped up and didn't show up like they might have. They won't sit back in the next one.

Again, I don't really care about anything political, and I have voted both sides of the aisle, but there is no debating the guy is a horrible person.

My opinions aside.
You don't have to be a good person to be a good president. Certainly wouldn't be the first time history a good president was a horrible person.
 
Funny... will be interesting to see. I am guessing he won because of the Russians (halfway joking), and because the Dems figured they had it wrapped up and didn't show up like they might have. They won't sit back in the next one.

Again, I don't really care about anything political, and I have voted both sides of the aisle, but there is no debating the guy is a horrible person.


"Russians"

Y'all are the new "Birthers". What a joke
 
My opinions aside.
You don't have to be a good person to be a good president. Certainly wouldn't be the first time history a good president was a horrible person.

Like it or hate it, with the economy moving like it is now under leadership who can actually read and understand a balance sheet, Trump will be re-elected. Bank on it. Dow at 30K with the global players at the table? bank on it. The more the Left comes out with their BS, the more unified Average Joe American will prevail against Leftist California and New York horseshit socialist policitico.

And I’m not leaving you out either San Fran. You will allow for criminal illegals to rape and murder on our streets, yet issue $1000 fines to restaurant workers for giving out drinking straws. This type of BS inspires folks from the midwest. Which is why Trump is there now cleaning up this giant mess. And it’s working.

This BS liberal doctrine has woken up the long and forgotten middle class and they will be voted out.

Yeah he’s not very Presidential, but he’s getting the job done. If only we could fix the murder rate in the Community Organizer District of Chicago. Man that would be great.
 
Thanks Obama is right... His shitty reign as President helped to pave the way for the MAGA age we're living in now...

If Obama hadn't sucked so bad, Trump may have never been elected...thanks Obama...

#MAGA
#KGA

Yeah the president who took over during the greatest recession since the great depression and was able to flip -2.8% GDP to an average of 2% GDP growth with median income growth from 2013 onwards, stock market gaining 200%, home prices rising after declining from 2006--172,000 to 232,000--hate that guy...

But I love how the name of the 'community organizer' gets you rustled. MAGA level rustled.

I'm willing to give Trump credit for continuing the economic gains despite the tariffs hurting small businesses and the tax cut that largely helped enrich shareholders while injecting the markets with short term stimulus that historically has led to recessions 5-6 years down the road, if you admit Obama wasn't the worst at the economic stuff. Deal?

And for the record, America was always great--if you don't believe in american exceptionalism doesn't that make you the unpatriotic and unamerican one?? **gasp**
 
Yes, I dont know either. I dont give a shit if Trump moves into Hugh Hefners Playboy mansion tomorrow.
Bottomline is if you cant make money in this Economy now, you never will or just plain Lazy as F%$K.

If you care more about "Morals" from the POTUS, where have you been for the last 50 years?

While I don't disagree with you--there was this thing called the 'Moral Majority' and a particular brand of evangelical politics that said otherwise and impeached a president just to 'clean house' and restore the integrity of the office. Just sayin'.

Tough to claim you are a Christian nation if you don't really care to embrace any of those values too--you've just sold your national soul for economic gain and ceded any ability to claim a moral high ground...if you care about that kind of thing...

I do think it is another level of messed up though to bang a porn star and a playmate while your wife is pregnant. But I guess I'm just old fashioned that way...
 
this is written like a QANON post and similar to that, all the typical rubes are lapping it up.

glad y'alls stock market is doing so well. too bad wages remain stagnant and 'pubs are about to get destroyed in the midterms.
 
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"Russians"

Y'all are the new "Birthers". What a joke

Haha thanks I laughed... he was born in Kenya, Ted Cruz dad killed JFK, etc... If he sits for a book length interview when it’s all said and done I’ll be interested to read it.
 
Yeah the president who took over during the greatest recession since the great depression and was able to flip -2.8% GDP to an average of 2% GDP growth with median income growth from 2013 onwards, stock market gaining 200%, home prices rising after declining from 2006--172,000 to 232,000--hate that guy...

But I love how the name of the 'community organizer' gets you rustled. MAGA level rustled.

I'm willing to give Trump credit for continuing the economic gains despite the tariffs hurting small businesses and the tax cut that largely helped enrich shareholders while injecting the markets with short term stimulus that historically has led to recessions 5-6 years down the road, if you admit Obama wasn't the worst at the economic stuff. Deal?

And for the record, America was always great--if you don't believe in american exceptionalism doesn't that make you the unpatriotic and unamerican one?? **gasp**

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Yeah the president who took over during the greatest recession since the great depression and was able to flip -2.8% GDP to an average of 2% GDP growth with median income growth from 2013 onwards, stock market gaining 200%, home prices rising after declining from 2006--172,000 to 232,000--hate that guy...

But I love how the name of the 'community organizer' gets you rustled. MAGA level rustled.

I'm willing to give Trump credit for continuing the economic gains despite the tariffs hurting small businesses and the tax cut that largely helped enrich shareholders while injecting the markets with short term stimulus that historically has led to recessions 5-6 years down the road, if you admit Obama wasn't the worst at the economic stuff. Deal?

And for the record, America was always great--if you don't believe in american exceptionalism doesn't that make you the unpatriotic and unamerican one?? **gasp**

2000 - 2016 there’s about 3 categories to go around (see below). Not really a solid supporting cast but could be headliners at a blue grass festival:
Bush & the Neo-con’s, the Fed & the Globalists, Obama & the Social(ist) Justices... Barry was clueless and let his Citigroup picked cabinet barely run the economy til they went to the bullpen for “the lefty”
 
While I don't disagree with you--there was this thing called the 'Moral Majority' and a particular brand of evangelical politics that said otherwise and impeached a president just to 'clean house' and restore the integrity of the office. Just sayin'.

Tough to claim you are a Christian nation if you don't really care to embrace any of those values too--you've just sold your national soul for economic gain and ceded any ability to claim a moral high ground...if you care about that kind of thing...

I do think it is another level of messed up though to bang a porn star and a playmate while your wife is pregnant. But I guess I'm just old fashioned that way...
Don't think it is so much that. Trump may or may not be the greatest guy, but he is who he is and it's in your face. All the rest of the dipshits that have been in there have been one person while acting like they are something totally different. People always claim they want someone who is "real" with them. Well they got him
 
I wonder how many people would let

Barack Obama manage their money

Versus Donald Trump

I would love to see people who loved m
You were buying in early 2008? I hope you pocketed stakes in Bear, Lehman, WaMu, Fannie, Freddie, or a Madoff fund? That would have been good timing ha. 2009? Glad you clarified not investment advice

Didn’t really check the dates but was buying at the low which is usually where I did not buy

ROI has been tasty
 
My opinions aside.
You don't have to be a good person to be a good president. Certainly wouldn't be the first time history a good president was a horrible person.

Certainly true. Here's the thing: I don't dislike him because of his politics. Frankly, there are not many things he has done in terms of policy actions that I have a fundamental problem with. I don't care that he serves as a Republican. I am not a Democrat. I am not a Republican. I vote for the lesser of two evils in most cases.

Many have blinders on because he is the leader of their team. Many hate him because he is the leader of the rival team. Trump is their Dabo Swinney....or Trump is their Muschamp. I am not loyal to either team, and despite my comments in this thread, frankly I don't care much about the whole circus. I live my life and do the best I can to serve others, either in the classroom helping students and their families grow as people or online helping SCBBQ vendors and customers find one another.

This distance offers a bit of perspective and allows me to judge the character of the man, without the bias of wanting my team to win. I suspect most without a horse in the race would agree that the man is a disgusting human being, regardless of any political success that might benefit me personally.

And at this point, I have wasted more time on politics than I care to, so I will exit the conversation and let the two teams fight it out, as they will do in perpetuity.
 
Don't think it is so much that. Trump may or may not be the greatest guy, but he is who he is and it's in your face. All the rest of the dipshits that have been in there have been one person while acting like they are something totally different. People always claim they want someone who is "real" with them. Well they got him

Sure. But you can be real without having sex with a porn star and playmate while your wife is pregnant or just given birth and then lie about it while making a hush money payment that you also lie about multiple times in different ways.

At some point you cross the line between being 'real' and just being a slime ball who lies about not being a slime ball, making you a duplicitous sleaze monger, which isn't 'real' at all--just really good at branding and being a PR con job expert, but these are too many words to read--MAGA...
 
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Sure. But you can be real without having sex with a porn star and playmate while your wife is pregnant or just given birth and then lie about it while making a hush money payment that you also lie about multiple times in different ways.

At some point you cross the line between being 'real' and just being a slime ball who lies about not being a slime ball, making you a duplicitous sleaze monger, which isn't 'real' at all--just really good at branding and being a PR con job expert, but these are too many words to read--MAGA...

Also Trump says mean things and stuff

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I wonder how many people would let

Barack Obama manage their money

Versus Donald Trump

I would love to see people who loved m


Didn’t really check the dates but was buying at the low which is usually where I did not buy

ROI has been tasty
I would give my money to Obama far before trump. And i voted for trump. But he’s a scumbag and might steal it.
 
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Funny... will be interesting to see. I am guessing he won because of the Russians (halfway joking), and because the Dems figured they had it wrapped up and didn't show up like they might have. They won't sit back in the next one.

Again, I don't really care about anything political, and I have voted both sides of the aisle, but there is no debating the guy is a horrible person.

Obama was a horrible person but didn’t show it and didn’t care about America other than destroying it. At least, Trump is going great things for this country. I don’t a crap about his morality. He is getting it done.
 
Yeah the president who took over during the greatest recession since the great depression and was able to flip -2.8% GDP to an average of 2% GDP growth with median income growth from 2013 onwards, stock market gaining 200%, home prices rising after declining from 2006--172,000 to 232,000--hate that guy...

But I love how the name of the 'community organizer' gets you rustled. MAGA level rustled.

I'm willing to give Trump credit for continuing the economic gains despite the tariffs hurting small businesses and the tax cut that largely helped enrich shareholders while injecting the markets with short term stimulus that historically has led to recessions 5-6 years down the road, if you admit Obama wasn't the worst at the economic stuff. Deal?

And for the record, America was always great--if you don't believe in american exceptionalism doesn't that make you the unpatriotic and unamerican one?? **gasp**
I don't have a dog in the fight, but it is easy to make money and turn it around when things hit bottom. Obama was aided by having the most accommodative monetary policy in our lifetime. Anyone would've produced those numbers. The economic recovery was a result of the fed plain and simple
 
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And why was Obama a horrible person??

Well, for starters let’s go with Benghazi, then the Iran 150 billion deal, and being the racist person he is. Continually dividing the nation, even to this day. That’s just some of it. I call that horrible.
 
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Trump assisting my employer generate wealth. My wealth is increasing in amazing fashion and retirement now in vision. Tightening borders. Improving military. Implementing his platform vs. typical political lies. Pushing fair trading playing field. I don't care who he sleeps with. Might be a pretty good business man vs. Career worthless politician and lier. He has my vote next election. Pro business rocks.
 
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This has been truly an interesting year

Since having posting this circumstances have changed

That is why we have horse races
 
Lots and lots of profit before Christmas and end of the year being taken off the top. You cant go up forever. 17k to 27k since election. 30k would have been nice but with rate hikes it wasn't going to happen this year.
 
All in might be the best thing

Then again it may not be

NMy friends say the tariffs are bringing everyone to the table

Mexico and Canada first

Maybe EU next and Pacific Rim to follow

China is moaning and bitching but in the end is going to become legit as a world trading partner

Russia is going to need some more butt kicking

The hot spots of NK will depend on the China trade deal

Same with Middle East with Russia

If USA threads the needle the DOW will hit 30,000 by end of year and not slow down for a while

Just my thoughts not investment advice

Clemson will win three Natties in next 5 years is my other thought

Go Tigers
End of what year?
 
End of what year?

I was expecting by the end of 2018 that we might hit 30,000 if some geo-political events came to fruition

Unfortunately for 30,000 one specific key event did not occur which I was thinking had an outside chance

No we did not address the issue with China

People across both sides of the aisle both Dem and Republican are grossly out of touch with the issues of China

The US must address the elephant in the room


Maybe by late next spring

I am now turning very bearish

Cash not assets

Many people are thinking that too and that is driving the market lower in my opinion
 
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I was expecting by the end of 2018 that we might hit 30,000 if some geo-political events came to fruition

Unfortunately for 30,000 one specific key event did not occur which I was thinking had an outside chance

No we did not address the issue with China

People across both sides of the aisle both Dem and Republican are grossly out of touch with the issues of China

The US must address the elephant in the room


Maybe by late next spring

I am now turning very bearish

Cash not assets

Many people are thinking that too and that is driving the market lower in my opinion
Cool story, hook em. Any idiot can look at the long term bond market and understand you are completely wrong.
 
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