Listen, I know you think you know what you're talking about, but you clearly just don't. They don't have to be any more qualified or experienced now. They can just choose the better option from the start. Do you understand this baseline concept?
Due to today's society not wanting to work
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Is it not the invisible hand of the free market that says a business fails if they can only survive by underpaying their labor? Why should the government interfere to artificially suppress wages so that otherwise nonviable business stay open?
If your entire business model is dependent on underpaying your workers or relying on your customers to subsidize their pay, then you have a bad business model. At the very least, don't moan and groan when nobody wants to sign up to get treated like shit for pennies.
I'm not bitching about anything. If people can make more money and improve their lot in life then that's the American Dream, right? Work hard, save, learn, grow. I did it. The American Dream is not "give me $20 an hour to flip burgers because that's what I need".
Absolutely. That's why I will never begrudge and an owner to run his business how he sees fit.
I’ve always paid my employees well. Always..
I do however, work on larger GP margins than some mom/pop type companies, but I can understand their perspectives.
If it's a great job in Clemson and the tip money is so significant, why can't they find enough people to work?
absolutely. I was talking more long term. Again, if someone will offer you more and your current boss can't or won't, then take the higher paying job. I would. Who wouldn't understand that? I know that a lot of young people are finding out they are not worth what they think they are.
Esso is not flexible to class schedules and pays like crap. I'm not lazy, hell I worked 50 hour weeks this summer at damn Chick-Fil-A. Fact of the matter is that the alternative of studying for longer + free time makes more sense for most people than working at Esso. Why spend all my time making bad money when I could raise my GPA/network/build my resumé and increase future earnings? Pay more and more people will be willing to work. Not exactly rocket science.
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Feel bad for anyone who has to support themselves, let alone a family, working at a restaurant. Had enough working summers at an MB seafood buffet as a teenager. F that
You want good people, got to make it worth it for them.
You want good people, got to make it worth it for them.
I have no idea. I just know I ate there over the Summer and asked the waitress about working there and she loved it and said it was great money for a school job.
100% my point. My boomer parents house was probably at a 12%-14% interest rate when they bought it.
Needless to say it is paid for and one day (hopefully long in the future) it will benefit me and my siblings along with other assets they acquired over their life as it should be. I in turn will do the same for my offspring.
But it's too complex to discuss how interest rates hovering a 0 for half a decade (2010's) increased the money supply and lead to inflation. Or how we live in a instant gratification society and we will just put it on the card because I want it and I deserve it, instead of saving/working towards something. Or how no one had 5 flat screen TV's in their house 30 years ago. Or how government handouts (in any form) are never good solution to a problem. Or when government gets involved it tends to benefit large corporate interests instead of the independent business. Or how it was decided everyone must go to college even if there was no market for their chosen field of study.
Lets just blame boomers (who aren't without fault) for everything and not any of the other decisions/attitudes along the way.
Good thing I don't own a burger joint I guess
as a side note, I was in South Korea not too long ago and they ran a fast food restaurant (Burger King, actually) with two employees and electronic kiosks. Automation will soon take over many of these jobs. Its an employee that never calls out, doesn't show up drunk, doesn't need health insurance and paid vacation. That is the new world, whether you like it or not. The Teeter by my house (Mt. P), like many places, has problems hiring enough cashiers. Know what they did? Added a bunch of self check out stations. There are 6 of them where there used to be one checkout lane. Problem solved.
Did I give you the impression that I didn't like it? Or that I had any opinion on it whatsoever? I can't think of any post I've made that would compel you to post that bolded part there.
I'm surprised she didn't start bitching about her shit pay to a random customer within earshot of other employees and possibly supervisors.
Your truth won't be appreciated by the lazy and quitters. I've seen more lazy quitters since the Pandemic than my previous 50 years combined living in this society. Only thing I can say is we had some very bad times just like every generation. No difference. My advice is never welcome, but it is advice that I lived with. Work hard, work smart, bide your time, play the game smart and if it requires your ass to work 3 jobs to keep your family fed, housed and clothed...just stfu and do it. I did for 3 long years. I promise you it won't kill you.
And this is exactly it. You had to eat shit so you just expect that the younger generations should too. It's rank pettiness and envy.
Isn’t there a political board so you retards can argue over this stupid shit??
THIS. You are 100% correct. And that's EXACTLY what everyone else has done.
And that's exactly why the ESSO club is bitching. Only they didn't say... Hey we offer crap pay and if you want to make more, find better work. THEY said, since society doesn't want to work...
Have a conversation with anyone under the age of ohhh say 35. And get back with us. Most can't pass a 3rd grade history test. Never read a book outside of a classroom, are scared of and throuroughly intolerant of anyone with an opinion different than theirs and never had to work for shite.
Karl, that you? Fidel? Cesar? Mao? How did that work out for y'all? What planet are you from?
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Private business owners paying people more = communism! The brilliance of TI
Pre-pandemic the wealth gap, particularly for minorities, was at the lowest point in multiple decades under Trump. That is evidently not what people wanted.
Part of the problem with jobs/wages is the massive increase in dependency on the govt for income/support that was not there decades ago. Social security, for example, was never meant to be long term income. Roosevelt himself said explicitly this. It was supposed to be a temporary, short term program to help get past the devastation of the great depression. These govt handouts are not market forces, but they certainly impact the labor market.
Today's generation of people under 40ish are the most spoiled, entitled group to ever walk the earth. If you ever get up off your couch and stop watching cable on your 50+ inch TV, get in your less than 20 yr old car while talking on your iphone , wearing name brand clothes/shoes to drive to get you some fast food, please don't expect me to like it when the govt takes the $$$ I worked for from me and gives it to you.
Part of the problem today, is we have redefined what "poor" is. Poor people in America are in the elite wealth category worldwide. Based on your "share the wealth" comments, I assume you give away most of your income to the less fortunate. Talk is cheap.
I agree also. But I also agree that giving every socio economically disadvantaged person in the country a tit to suck on in the effort to curry votes will lead to economic collapse and runaway inflation and eventually disincentive those with talent who Wait for it, provide jobs for others. Oh wait...... I stand by my assertion that all Liberals are economically retarded.
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Some truth here.
I’m amazed how so many younger folks are afraid to bet on themselves.
They don't have to because they are sucking the govt tit you are so proud of
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Majority of federal spending is on guess what, Medicare and social security.
Yep, younger people are dependent on the government teat.
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