FAT TAX IS SUPPORTED BY 86% OF T.I.
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The way our system works right now, you're right. I don't like it, but it is what it is.
There's a law against a lot of things. There's not a law against being fat. You think adding another law or regulation from Government is going to change something. More Government isn't the Answer, IMO. But look. That's just my opinion. I know it's different from yours.
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware that having a fried bacon, egg and cheese biscuit along with 2 orders of fried hash browns every morning is not good for you. Ignorance is not the issue, lazy pathetic individuals just give 0 shits.
Absolutely he is correct. I have a friend who is a doc and does a lot of medicaid work and he says it is unfathomable how unhealthy folks are (and bc of their diet) who are on medicaid. Those high calorie processed foods are impacting our tax dollars with more high blood pressure medication, type 2 diabetes costs (he says that one alone is astronomical) and heart disease. I totally get and prefer individual liberty until i have to pay for someone else to be unhealthy.
My guess is that they know its bad for them, but not exactly how bad. and there is all sorts of science out there that tells us that when this information is made readily available, people make better choices.
Type2 is increasingly being understood as a genetic disease exacerbated by environmental factors, fwiw.
Totally disagree that fat people for the most part, don't care. Never been fat a day in my life but there are other issues I battle and changes can be very hard to make even if you know better. I think a lot of overweight people get discouraged trying to lose weight. Takes a while to see any significant changes in a persons body who is overweight. I know I have been around people who have said they have lost a substantial amount of weight and I couldn't even tell. I think most overweight people definitely would love to take the weight off. Just such a daily struggle/ battle for them that they give up and continue to find comfort in food. We all have our demons.
That's my point. You just said it better.
Like every other law/regulation we have. Some people just don't give a shit about them.
In the last year year my international travel has increased exponentially. I just returned from the UK (England and Wales) on Sunday and I was there for 9 days.
I really think folks, specifically Americans, need to travel and experience other cultures around the Globe. We have a lot right in this country, but also have ALOT ...ALOT wrong.
I really think folks, specifically Americans, need to travel and experience other cultures around the Globe. We have a lot right in this country, but also have ALOT ...ALOT wrong.
I would actually support this. The life insurance companies already have the underwriting process down to a science.
You can’t fix lazy and stupid so the govt needs to step in and stop them from being fat too. Unfortunately our healthcare has gotten too good and now they can’t kill themselves on mc Donald’s and cigarettes.
So basically they have gone from lazy and stupid to fat lazy stupid and expensive.
Drug dealers are going to switch from weed to smuggling fat now
My how times have changed
Now we will see nightly news about fats getting hit in drive bys
And don' forget circling the parking lot waiting on a space to open up close to entrance. In the time people wasted circling the lot I could've parked and walked in already. Just laziness.
WOW. SO YOUR HEART BLEEDS FOR OBESE PEOPLE BUT NOT SINGLE WOMEN ON WELFARE. SEE, THATS THE PROBLEM. BOTH COST US LOTS OF MONEY BUT YOU ONLY WANT TO BITCH ABOUT THE ONE YOUVE BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE.
SAME FOR DEFENSE SPENDING. “YEP GIVE EM ANOTHER 10 BILLION! I DONT CARE IF ITS WASTED MONEY, BC IM TOLD TO LOVE DEFENSE SPENDING NO MATTER WHAT”
AS A SIDE NOTE, FATS SHOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE A 1ST CLASS OR TWO ECONOMY SEATS ON FLIGHTS.
Cancers Associated with Overweight and Obesity Make up 40 percent of Cancers Diagnosed in the United States.
Cancer is really expensive to treat, not to mention other numerous conditions brought on by obesity. Obese adults >30% bmi spend 42% more on healthcare than healthy people, and 81% more for those > 40 % BMI. We should give a grace period for everyone to get your BMI < 30%. After the grace period if you are over 30% BMI you do not qualify for healthcare or any govt assisted program. Everyone can qualify and rates plummet. Of course there would be a few conditions that would exempt, but this would cut healthcare cost dramatically.
Cancer is really expensive to treat, not to mention other numerous conditions brought on by obesity. Obese adults >30% bmi spend 42% more on healthcare than healthy people, and 81% more for those > 40 % BMI. We should give a grace period for everyone to get your BMI < 30%. After the grace period if you are over 30% BMI you do not qualify for healthcare or any govt assisted program. Everyone can qualify and rates plummet. Of course there would be a few conditions that would exempt, but this would cut healthcare cost dramatically.
To be fair, a shit ton of obese people are on welfare.
Absolutely untrue. My heart does not bleed for the obese no more than for the welfare recipient.
As I said in my initial post.... we are all accountable for our own health and the foods we choose to eat.
I do not feel sorry for them. It's on them. They control it. No one else. I merely offered some insight and suggested that most fat people likely hate themselves and their body but struggle to stay committed to lose the weight. But it is their problem, not mine. Nor the governments.
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DAMN RIGHT. IF WE ARE KICKING DREAMERS OUT AND NOT FUNDING CHIP (HEALTH INSURANCE FOR KIDS), THEN WE ARE AT THE POINT IF DENYING GOVT HEALTH CARE FOR FATS THAT WONT IMPROVE
The problem is the way our cities are designed. As with everywhere, Americans are a product of their environment. And our cities/communities force us to be lazy as shit and drive everywhere. They are rarely built in a manner that makes for a pleasant experience to walk or ride a bike.
Our city planners know this and work is being done to improve it, but it takes decades and a huge mental shift. What you see now are a bunch of ignorant people getting angry because they don’t want to share”their” roads with bikes. Horses and bikes owned those roads before your car came along, buddy.
I've proposed some of these before:
- Allow health insurers to rate people based on controllable health factors (ie obesity, smoking, etc.). Uncontrollable pre-existing conditions still excluded, but if a smoker is likely to be 3X more expensive and an obese person is likely to be 4X more expensive than a fit non-smoker, then that's the rate they should pay.
- Charge people a Medicare surcharge tax if their controllable health factors predict a future burden on the Medicare program. They can earn this back if they reverse their trend. They are ineligible for Medicare if they don't participate in annual preventative health appointments. Over 65 pays surcharge as well if obese/smoke/etc.
- Mandatory health improvement initiatives if you are obese/smoking/etc. and on Medicaid.
- EDIT: Add limiting food stamps to healthy food. No fast food. No junk food. No candy.
- Plenty of other opportunities to have those placing a burden on the system pay their fair share while financially discouraging unhealthy behavior.
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The only deaths from marijuana is some dumbass driving. You won't OD on pot smoking. Fact.
Do you ever drive after smoking weed? Do you think marijuana users should be required to purchase more car insurance?
Yep. Reason number 1,000 Europeans are generally happier and live longer than Americans
It’s incredible
Wrecked
ohhhh amy no.
alcohol causes thousands of deaths per year related to impaired driving. if a person thinks that weed smokers should buy more insurance, the same must be said of people who drink.
No doubt. I simply used marijuana because many on this board are advocates for legalization.
I also think you have some who wouldn't drink and drive but would "smoke" and drive.
And both are dangerous because you are impaired getting behind a wheel after doing either.
No new laws needed. Only 2 things.
1. Stop subsidizing corn
2. Only allow food stamps to be used for low carb organic food.
BOOM
1. Stop subsidizing corn
2. Only allow food stamps to be used for low carb organic food.
BOOM
I think where the DUI vs obesity argument falls apart is you can be arrested for being .08 which is not intoxicated by any stretch. It would be like putting someone in jail for being 5 pounds overweight. Neither make any sense.
Always wonder why my bag has to be able to fit in the size carrier at the gate, but the lard ass beside me can take up half my seat.
I want an airline seat at the ticket counter to quell the heard.
You can’t out-exercise a diet of chicken nuggets, pizza, ice cream, and coke. Changing from French fries to a salad will do more than running 3 miles a day.
So true. Stop going to Vegas and Myrtle Beach for vacations. See other countries and learn about what we could improve, while also appreciating how lucky we are to be citizens of the US.
Just keep eating beef. Lots and lots of beef. Please and thank you.
First step is to stop subsidizing corn and sugar. Saves us money and makes sugary products more expensive, and healthier food will look less expensive relative to the shit that 95% if the country is stuffing their faces with. Which leads to less disease, which means less healthcare $$$. It’s a win-win for everyone except the fast food/junk food industries.
I don’t count a bowl with fried chicken, bacon, a gallon of blue cheese, and a few leafs of lettuce, as a salad.
