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FPOTUS Trump attempted assassination…

I don't understand what they are so mad about. It doesn't make any difference what he was struck by, right?


I don't think it matters, the shooter was trying to kill him. If he was hit by a bullet in the ear, the shooter was as close to killing him as you can be without doing it.

If it was shrapnel, he was close but maybe not as close as he could have been.

Moot point in my book, but there is zero evidence that there was any shrapnel at all. There is a picture of a bullet whizzing by his head. It shouldn't be too difficult to find something damaged in Trump's vicinity if you plan to make a claim it was shrapnel. Broken teleprompter, hole in a bleacher, something. Where is it?
 
I don't think it matters, the shooter was trying to kill him. If he was hit by a bullet in the ear, the shooter was as close to killing him as you can be without doing it.

If it was shrapnel, he was close but maybe not as close as he could have been.

Moot point in my book, but there is zero evidence that there was any shrapnel at all. There is a picture of a bullet whizzing by his head. It shouldn't be too difficult to find something damaged in Trump's vicinity if you plan to make a claim it was shrapnel. Broken teleprompter, hole in a bleacher, something. Where is it?
So why all the anger from Trump world about insisting it was a bullet? They're not making the argument you're making, that it really doesn't matter. Your argument makes more sense, I just happen to disagree with you on it.

The republicans are demanding a retraction from the FBI director, and insisting he corrects his statement to reflect that it was a bullet. That ain't right, and there's something fishy going on here. They don't want anyone asking any questions.

That's all the more reason to press harder. They're looking more suspicious with every one of these demands.
 
Irrefutable? Why don't you check out any of the pictures of his ear from the meeting with Bibi that are circulating, where you can clearly see his ear is not only not obliterated, but entirely intact, and get back to me on the Irrefutable thing?

Besides, the Trump appointed director of the FBI also has questions about it. I'm very comfortable with my position on this matter.
Oh so NOW you believe in conspiracies!! He most likely had a skin graft...
 
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Trump saying he took a bullet for democracy is just more of his bluster, but it’s not entirely in bad faith. His life would be so much simpler and happier if he just rode off into the sunset at mar a lago. But I think he believes that the future of the country depends on his retaking the White House. I don’t know if he’s right or wrong, but the fact that he’s willing to expose himself to the daily risk of snipers lets me know that he believes it.

He’s willing to die for this country, and that is commendable, regardless of our opinions of his behavior and policy.
 
So why all the anger from Trump world about insisting it was a bullet? They're not making the argument you're making, that it really doesn't matter. Your argument makes more sense, I just happen to disagree with you on it.

The republicans are demanding a retraction from the FBI director, and insisting he corrects his statement to reflect that it was a bullet. That ain't right, and there's something fishy going on here. They don't want anyone asking any questions.

That's all the more reason to press harder. They're looking more suspicious with every one of these demands.

I view Wray's comment as a distraction and he has no basis for making it. It is believed to be a bullet, because the shooter actually shot bullets, not shrapnel. Could a bullet have hit something and the shrapnel (either part of the bullet or part of whatever was hit) then hit Trump, sure.

To me it should be pretty easy to asses if there are bullet holes in the teleprompter or the stands. Again, a reporter has a frame by frame picture of what appears to be a bullet whizzing by Trumps head. So I think the onus is on Wray not make baseless statements about something that can't be backed up with evidence.

I am not sure why it matters so much to you, it is a difference without a distinction.
 
I view Wray's comment as a distraction and he has no basis for making it. It is believed to be a bullet, because the shooter actually shot bullets, not shrapnel. Could a bullet have hit something and the shrapnel (either part of the bullet or part of whatever was hit) then hit Trump, sure.

To me it should be pretty easy to asses if there are bullet holes in the teleprompter or the stands. Again, a reporter has a frame by frame picture of what appears to be a bullet whizzing by Trumps head. So I think the onus is on Wray not make baseless statements about something that can't be backed up with evidence.

I am not sure why it matters so much to you, it is a difference without a distinction.
I disagree.
 
Trump saying he took a bullet for democracy is just more of his bluster, but it’s not entirely in bad faith. His life would be so much simpler and happier if he just rode off into the sunset at mar a lago. But I think he believes that the future of the country depends on his retaking the White House. I don’t know if he’s right or wrong, but the fact that he’s willing to expose himself to the daily risk of snipers lets me know that he believes it.

He’s willing to die for this country, and that is commendable, regardless of our opinions of his behavior and policy.
He's trying to replenish his coffers and stay out jail.
 
If you want to use anecdotal evidence, my company is doing much better under Biden. America's economy is thriving. The stock market is setting records, unemployment is near record lows, and home values are way up. How are your 401k and other investment portfolios doing? Mine are doing very well.
What kind of business are you in. I love videos @
 
@24TIGER I'm sorry if I missed it, but did you mention your thoughts as to why USSS didn't put a sniper on that water tower in the background? Thanks in advance for your insight.
Not 24TIGER here and this is only a guess but probably didn’t want a sniper aiming back at the crowd with the likelihood of you miss you would likely hit someone in the crowd
 
I view Wray's comment as a distraction and he has no basis for making it. It is believed to be a bullet, because the shooter actually shot bullets, not shrapnel. Could a bullet have hit something and the shrapnel (either part of the bullet or part of whatever was hit) then hit Trump, sure.

To me it should be pretty easy to asses if there are bullet holes in the teleprompter or the stands. Again, a reporter has a frame by frame picture of what appears to be a bullet whizzing by Trumps head. So I think the onus is on Wray not make baseless statements about something that can't be backed up with evidence.

I am not sure why it matters so much to you, it is a difference without a distinction.
I totally agree with you... This was not some random pro-Trump photograper... He was in "the well" and in my opinion, was batshit crazy for taking photos while shots are ringing out !!

NYT article:

In documenting the Pennsylvania campaign rally on Saturday afternoon that turned into an attempt on a former president’s life, Doug Mills, a veteran New York Times photographer, appeared to capture the image of a bullet streaking past former President Donald J. Trump’s head.
That is the assessment of Michael Harrigan, a retired F.B.I. special agent who spent 22 years in the bureau.
“It absolutely could be showing the displacement of air due to a projectile,” Mr. Harrigan said in an interview on Saturday night after reviewing the high-resolution images that Mr. Mills filed from the rally. “The angle seems a bit low to have passed through his ear, but not impossible if the gunman fired multiple rounds.”
Simple ballistic math showed that capturing a bullet as Mr. Mills likely did in a photo was possible, Mr. Harrigan said.

Mr. Mills was using a Sony digital camera capable of capturing images at up to 30 frames per second. He took these photos with a shutter speed of 1/8,000th of a second — extremely fast by industry standards.

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If you want to use anecdotal evidence, my company is doing much better under Biden. America's economy is thriving. The stock market is setting records, unemployment is near record lows, and home values are way up. How are your 401k and other investment portfolios doing? Mine are doing very well.
My investments are good, they were under Trump too, but the stuff I have to buy is insane to make my products vs biden. So I don't know what you do for a living. My business has to buy alot stuff to do what I do, and it's doubled!
 
My investments are good, they were under Trump too, but the stuff I have to buy is insane to make my products vs biden. So I don't know what you do for a living. My business has to buy alot stuff to do what I do, and it's doubled!
I know you do those great videos of my tigers but what else do you do for a living.
 
Trump saying he took a bullet for democracy is just more of his bluster, but it’s not entirely in bad faith. His life would be so much simpler and happier if he just rode off into the sunset at mar a lago. But I think he believes that the future of the country depends on his retaking the White House. I don’t know if he’s right or wrong, but the fact that he’s willing to expose himself to the daily risk of snipers lets me know that he believes it.

He’s willing to die for this country, and that is commendable, regardless of our opinions of his behavior and policy.
Well said...
 
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@24TIGER I'm sorry if I missed it, but did you mention your thoughts as to why USSS didn't put a sniper on that water tower in the background? Thanks in advance for your insight.
Not @24TIGER, but there are some photos that "seem" to show someone/something on the water tower... If there was something nefarious going on, it would have been a good location to end Crooks life...
 
I watched a woman on the news the evening it happened say as clear as day "I saw they shot the one in the water tower."
I've seen that... I don't know, I've watched that grainy video and I don't know if there was someone there or maybe just a big bird nesting there... Really hard to tell... If you look at things objectively, the best place to put a rogue government sniper would have been on the 2nd floor of the AGR building...
 
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I'm not making any insinuations. I'm saying explicitly, in no uncertain terms, I do not believe Trump was struck by a bullet.

Not saying this to be rude, but I've already said this numerous times.
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Gotta disagree with this point. Jfk did take a bullet imo.

What’s the difference? Seems the same to me. Just one shooter had better aim. Sounds to me like your arguments don’t make a lot of sense, but that stands to reason since you are a liberal.
 
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Y’all need to cool your jets…seriously.

"You have been hearing all of your life that this occasion is a big step into what is called the real world. What, you may ask, is that real world all about? What is this new life? Ladies and gentlemen of the class of 2005 at Emory, real life is not college; real life is not high school. Here is a secret that no one has told you: Real life is junior high.

"The world that you're about to enter is filled with junior high adolescent pettiness, pubescent rivalries, the insecurities of 13-year-olds, and the false bravado of 14-year-olds. 40 years from now, I guarantee it: You will still make a silly mistake every day. You will have temper tantrums and you’re feelings will be hurt for some trivial sleight. You’ll say something dumb at the wrong time. And you will wonder at least once a week, 'Will I ever grow up?' You can change that. In your pursuit of your passions, always be young. In your relationship with others, always be grown-up. Set a standard, and stay faithful to it."



Tom Brokaw -- Commencement Speech; Emory University, 2005

This quote was posted on my wall when I served as Special Agent in Charge (SAIC) of the USSS Vice Presidential Protective Division.
 
If you’re going to signal a shooter, it would seem like directly behind/next to the target would be a less than ideal spot to do it from….

She wasn't behind the incoming rounds. In the video you see her look to her right (our left)? That was in direction of the building that Crooks fired from. The rounds that whizzed by Trump hit in the crown behind and to Trump's left (our right). So, she had no issue with being struck by any bullet, hence she didn't get down like everyone else. You can see by the image below the bullets that stuck the people in the stands went into the stands (bleachers) that are on the right of this layout, not directly behind Trump.


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