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Gaza deal reached

Beat me to it.
All that was needed was a STRONG leader, that means what he says and who they are afraid of!

Trump says there will be hell to pay

You might want to add that to your list @hopefultiger13 and then check it off!
Trump pushed the Israelis into concessions. Does "give them hell" look like releasing thousands of prisoners and withdrawing from every strategic area in Gaza? There was nothing to threaten Hamas with. They were bombed for over a year, and the IDF didn't make any substantive progress. A lot of young men were lost in areas they claimed to have cleared, sacrificed for political reasons.

I saw a soldier on the Israeli news say there is an IED in every building and alley, and Hamas has cameras everywhere, some motion activated. The tunnel system is intact in large parts, and it looks like they anticipated a siege. There is the misconception that Iran gave them everything. More than likely they made most of what they have themselves, and they're able to do it in the tunnels. Complete nightmare

The deal is difficult, but my opinion is that any campaign could not have been considered a success until the hostages were returned home. Mind you, a deal could have been reached a year ago, but the "war war war!! kill everyone in Gaza !!! terrorists must die!!!" crowd insisted otherwise without a plan. Great, they killed more Hamas people (who will simply be replaced) at the price of dead soldiers, a ruined international image, economic loss, and more dead hostages. Tremendous.
 
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Per Biden this is the deal we have been working on since May of last year. So glad my administration got the deal done..

However he did say he and Trump have been speaking as one team.
 
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Per Biden 🤣 (he can't remember what he ate for breakfast) this is the deal we have been working on since May of last year. So glad my administration got the deal done..

However he did say he and Trump have been speaking as one team.
Really doesn't matter, I'll take it.

Coincidence it happens 5 days before January 20th after an ultimatum was made.

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BREAKING: Hostage and ceasefire deal in Gaza had nothing to do with Biden, Arab officials say.

The deal today came after Trump's incoming Middle East envoy STEVE WITKOFF met with Netanyahu.

"Trump envoy swayed Netanyahu more in one meeting than Biden did all year" - Times of Israel
 
Trump pushed the Israelis into concessions. Does "give them hell" look like releasing thousands of prisoners and withdrawing from every strategic area in Gaza? There was nothing to threaten Hamas with. They were bombed for over a year, and the IDF didn't make any substantive progress. A lot of young men were lost in areas they claimed to have cleared, sacrificed for political reasons.

I saw a soldier on the Israeli news say there is an IED in every building and alley, and Hamas has cameras everywhere, some motion activated. The tunnel system is intact in large parts, and it looks like they anticipated a siege. There is the misconception that Iran gave them everything. More than likely they made most of what they have themselves, and they're able to do it in the tunnels. Complete nightmare

The deal is difficult, but my opinion is that any campaign could not have been considered a success until the hostages were returned home. Mind you, a deal could have been reached a year ago, but the "war war war!! kill everyone in Gaza !!! terrorists must die!!!" crowd insisted otherwise without a plan. Great, they killed more Hamas people (who will simply be replaced) at the price of dead soldiers, a ruined international image, economic loss, and more dead hostages. Tremendous.

So suggest your perfect plan to solve this

I am all ears and waiting
 
Aaaaand Israel is now delaying the deal
The crazies in their government are the actual threat to Israel’s long term survival.

Given how they’re talking, I have every belief that they’ll find the smallest pretense to break the ceasefire before their withdrawal is required.

I don’t get it. You dealt with the immediate threat to your security, you dealt significant blows to Hamas (though they’re still standing), and you have a deal to get your people back.

Though actually I do get it. Netanyahu tied his political survival (his ability to stave off a corruption trial) to these clowns and their desire for war, and he can’t escape. And Hamas knew it when they attacked.
 
So suggest your perfect plan to solve this

I am all ears and waiting
Go through with the deal, and focus on normalizing relations with the Saudis. Is that so far-fetched? Chasing Hamas through the ruins of Gaza isn’t worth the price, and it hasn’t been for months.

The attack didn’t succeed to the extent that it did because Hamas is some military superpower. It did because Mr Security Netanyahu had something like 500 troops on the whole border. There’s no point in Israel losing its mind over this. The “existential threat” is ridiculous hyperbole
 
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The crazies in their government are the actual threat to Israel’s long term survival.

Given how they’re talking, I have every belief that they’ll find the smallest pretense to break the ceasefire before their withdrawal is required.

I don’t get it. You dealt with the immediate threat to your security, you dealt significant blows to Hamas (though they’re still standing), and you have a deal to get your people back.

Though actually I do get it. Netanyahu tied his political survival (his ability to stave off a corruption trial) to these clowns and their desire for war, and he can’t escape. And Hamas knew it when they attacked.
Religion poisons everything
 
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