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Heroism by Nashville Police: Video Posted

I don't really get the back and forth from republicans and democrats on all of this. Each side digs their heels in the sand on what they think is right. Why can't we make it harder for lunatics to get guns and harden off our schools for the ones that still get them? 3 out of 4 Americans want tougher gun laws. I own many guns including an AR and I want to make it harder to get them. I also want my children's school to be much more difficult to get into in an instance like this. I'm not saying anything will solve all of the problems, but it needs to be approached from all angles quickly.

I promise you this, bad people will always find a way to get a gun. Where there’s a will there’s a way. The sad truth of it is you will never be able to stop one individual with an idea like this in their mind. It will happen again and again.
 
Man powerful video. Officers did an amazing job eliminating the threat. Please don't make this post political. I think we all can agree that the officers saved countless lives. From the 911 call to elimination was 14 mins. Really good work. Video is graphic body cam footage

That video is as intense as anything I've watched anywhere. Watching the first time and not knowing where the shooter was located... I was nervous and I wasn't there. Just unreal. Great teamwork and drive by the police.

Also, my wife works in the front office of her school and watched the surveillance video that shows the shooter entering the school. She timed the entry of the shooter at 10 seconds. Her and hercoworkers have been working on a 10 second plan today if that happened to them.
 
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This is terrifying to me as I have one in HS and one in Middle School. All of the public schools in my county have police on duty full time at each school so that is hopefully a deterrent here.

Every year at the end of the school year I give the police at my kids school $100 bill in a thank you note. It’s not enough, but I do truly appreciate them.
I can't imagine losing one of my children. Heartbreaking.

I get that it is scary, but the likelihood of this happening at your school is almost zero. Your kids are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to school than being killed once there. Does not make it any les awful for those it happens to, though.
 
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Saferwatchapp.com.... hundreds of schools use it. Started after MSD in So. Florida

Been done for Superbowl in Miami and tons more
 
I promise you this, bad people will always find a way to get a gun. Where there’s a will there’s a way. The sad truth of it is you will never be able to stop one individual with an idea like this in their mind. It will happen again and again.
This is what people can not grasp. You can not stop crazy if it is motivated.
 
This is what people can not grasp. You can not stop crazy if it is motivated.

It won’t happen, but say we ban what some like to call “assault weapons”. Any moron with a decent trigger can walk into any crowded area in public with a Glock 40, which holds 16 rounds, open fire and kill at least a few people. You just can’t stop it.
 
It won’t happen, but say we ban what some like to call “assault weapons”. Any moron with a decent trigger can walk into any crowded area in public with a Glock 40, which holds 16 rounds, open fire and kill at least a few people. You just can’t stop it.
The vast, vast majority of “mass shootings” (and Gun Homicides) are committed with a weapon other than an AR/AK Platform.

In 2019 alone, there were 10,258 Firearm Homicides of which 364 were with a Rifle (which means less than 364 were AR/AK Platforms) yet 6,368 were with Pistols.


Also, there are FIVE TIMES more Homicides with knives/etc than with Rifles. There are more Homicides with blunt objects as well as hands/feet: the Rifles aren’t the problem.
 
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The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary.

The Denver shooter identified as trans.

The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.

The Nashville shooter identified as trans.

One thing is VERY clear: the modern trans movement is radicalizing activists into terrorists.

I hope the libs are happy with themselves for promoting this mental illness nonstop. There is nothing right about it.

There have been 2,826 mass shootings since 2018, so by your logic being cis is more radicalizing than being trans.
 
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It's not flawed. The overwhelming majority of mass shooters are cis males.
Do you think there are more “cis” (not a real term to describe gender) people or “trans” people? I think there are a lot more “cis” people. Are these mass shootings largely targeted shootings related to criminal or domestic issues or are they random shootings like the ones that have everybody terrified, i.e. schools, movie theatres, etc.? When you crunch those numbers the number of “trans” shooters is a large outlier.
 
Do you think there are more “cis” (not a real term to describe gender) people or “trans” people? I think there are a lot more “cis” people. Are these mass shootings largely targeted shootings related to criminal or domestic issues or are they random shootings like the ones that have everybody terrified, i.e. schools, movie theatres, etc.? When you crunch those numbers the number of “trans” shooters is a large outlier.

Approx 0.5% of the US population identify as trans. Yet trans people committed only 0.14% of mass shootings. Try again, dumbass.
 
I agree with you in principal so dont really mean to argue - except the funding part.
Working on a "pack" of schools in NC right now. There is a $7MM solar and battery storage system in the design, that will never recoup costs but it drives their LEED score up.

The architectural lighting package was just north of $3MM. When the job was over budget a functionally equal package was proposed that would have saved 1.2MM. Instead they went back and got the budget raised.

That's just a single obivous example in the electrical scope. Im sure similar attrocities in the plumbing and mechanical scope exist where an architect turned a public school into his wet dream. We could build just as functional schools - maybe safer with BP glass etc - save the cash and use it to hire secruity
Not taking away from your point about re-allocating funds for security measures, which I’d actually support if it makes sense.

But I’d really love to see them take some of that money and re-allocate it to pay teachers.
 
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Wanted to see the kill shot.
It’s on YouTube. It’s a longer 6 minute video that shows 2 different footages. I’m not going to link because idk if I can on here, but it’s on YouTube by Forbes breaking news
 
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I promise you this, bad people will always find a way to get a gun. Where there’s a will there’s a way. The sad truth of it is you will never be able to stop one individual with an idea like this in their mind. It will happen again and again.
95% of cases you are probably right. Still think it’s a good idea to delay the process. One of the mass shootings the shooter bought the AR the day of the killings. Just don’t think it’s going to hurt anyone to make people wait a little while.
 
There is plenty of data to show that stricter gun laws in countries drastically lowers the chance of gun related homicides.

The problem is that there are already way too many guns throughout this country as it is now and reeling that in will almost be impossible. Depressing to think about.
 
There is plenty of data to show that stricter gun laws in countries drastically lowers the chance of gun related homicides.

The problem is that there are already way too many guns throughout this country as it is now and reeling that in will almost be impossible. Depressing to think about.
This is true and also doesn’t necessarily lead to a lower homicide rate.
 
Approx 0.5% of the US population identify as trans. Yet trans people committed only 0.14% of mass shootings. Try again, dumbass.
I think your own statistics just proved the point. If you normalized the distributions with your numbers then 28% of that population has committed a mass shooting. That’s highly significant
 
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There is plenty of data to show that stricter gun laws in countries drastically lowers the chance of gun related homicides.

The problem is that there are already way too many guns throughout this country as it is now and reeling that in will almost be impossible. Depressing to think about.
I was with you completely up until the last sentence.

If thinking about Evil is depressing......well, then I guess I'm with you.
But, there's much more Good to be excited about, if you understand ledgers, assets & liabilities.
 
I think your own statistics just proved the point. If you normalized the distributions with your numbers then 28% of that population has committed a mass shooting. That’s highly significant

Not sure but I think you’re misreading .5% as the percent of people who have committed mass shootings? If we’re going to normalize it then it’s 4 trans shooters (assuming OP data) out of 1.6 million trans people versus 2,822 non trans shooters out of 329 million non trans.
 
Amazing work...wish we could find a happy medium. These schools being gun free zones with no police on site makes them easy targets. But the funding is not there for them to be there

I guess private schools have the funds to make it happen and honestly seeing some of these news schools being built and the athletic facilities, they could probably lighten up on those budgets and protect the schools with armed officers or retired military.

It is sad that it has moved down to elementary level students but gun free zones are almost always the zones attacked. But man...what an impressive ass response and handling of this situation by police


The funding is there. Except it’s in Ukraine. 🤬
 
Not sure but I think you’re misreading .5% as the percent of people who have committed mass shootings? If we’re going to normalize it then it’s 4 trans shooters (assuming OP data) out of 1.6 million trans people versus 2,822 non trans shooters out of 329 million non trans.
We’re talking about shooting little kids in school or random people in public. You’re a demonic piece of trash
 
Biden did not know where he was. He was just there for the ice cream and to get clarification from some dude named Ben who is an outstanding American.

I wish I knew who the reporter was that shut him up and said that she thought they were there for a statement on the shooting. He looked dumbfounded....he wanted to talk ice cream with the kids and how much he had upstairs. Was so freaking weird

Imagine if Trump would have lead off a mass shooting presser like that. It's all we would be hearing about today. Biden...all videos have it cut out. Have to dig for it

And not just 1 AK47....but 2
When I saw that live yesterday,
I couldn’t believe what he was saying and had to replay it. I was like WTF is he doing .
 
There is plenty of data to show that stricter gun laws in countries drastically lowers the chance of gun related homicides.

The problem is that there are already way too many guns throughout this country as it is now and reeling that in will almost be impossible. Depressing to think about.

I’d be all for limiting personal firearms to Shotguns, Bolt Action Rifles, and revolvers. I can’t think of a legit reason to carry anything else.

But, the problem is logistically, how do you reel everything in that’s already out there? I think we’ve gotta tighten things up though, even if it seems pointless.
 
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The Main Board has a 7 page thread on these videos. There must be a dozen or more LEOs, special ops, etc. commenting on the tactics. It a very interesting read.
 
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I’d be all for limiting personal firearms to Shotguns, Bolt Action Rifles, and revolvers. I can’t think of a legit reason to carry anything else.

But, the problem is logistically, how do you reel everything in that’s already out there? I think we’ve gotta tighten things up though, even if it seems pointless.

No, we shouldn't limit personal firearms to "shotguns, bolt Action Rifles, and revolvers."

That said.....with great rights and freedoms comes great responsibility.

1. Assault style weapons, AR's or whatever the "know it alls" want to call them should require a minimum age limit to possess of 21, except in cases where someone can show a requirement like predator control on a ranch or farm or something. And ALL purchases of those type weapons REGARDLESS of age should require a background check (even at gun shows) and a 7 day or so waiting period.

2. Punishment. You commit a crime with a gun and you immediately get an additional hard time prison sentence added on to whatever sentence you got for the originating crime. The additional sentence length commensurate with the crime. No parole either.

3. Parents need to be held to some level of responsibility for these kids that are messed up but don't receive some type of treatment. "Little Johnny just needs to be challenged." No....he's a nutcase and needs help. And if you have a nutcase kid in your house and you have weapons in that house they better be locked up and made inaccessible to said nutcase.

And the libs need to realize whenever they quote the number of mass shootings: the overwhelming majority of those "mass shootings" are criminal activity committed primarily with pistols NOT assault rifles and require criminal prosecution and punishment.

But none of that will happen.
 
No, we shouldn't limit personal firearms to "shotguns, bolt Action Rifles, and revolvers."

That said.....with great rights and freedoms comes great responsibility.

1. Assault style weapons, AR's or whatever the "know it alls" want to call them should require a minimum age limit to possess of 21, except in cases where someone can show a requirement like predator control on a ranch or farm or something. And ALL purchases of those type weapons REGARDLESS of age should require a background check (even at gun shows) and a 7 day or so waiting period.

2. Punishment. You commit a crime with a gun and you immediately get an additional hard time prison sentence added on to whatever sentence you got for the originating crime. The additional sentence length commensurate with the crime. No parole either.

3. Parents need to be held to some level of responsibility for these kids that are messed up but don't receive some type of treatment. "Little Johnny just needs to be challenged." No....he's a nutcase and needs help. And if you have a nutcase kid in your house and you have weapons in that house they better be locked up and made inaccessible to said nutcase.

And the libs need to realize whenever they quote the number of mass shootings: the overwhelming majority of those "mass shootings" are criminal activity committed primarily with pistols NOT assault rifles and require criminal prosecution and punishment.

But none of that will happen.
I could go along with most of this. The problem is none of it would have stopped what happened today.
 
There is plenty of data to show that stricter gun laws in countries drastically lowers the chance of gun related homicides.

The problem is that there are already way too many guns throughout this country as it is now and reeling that in will almost be impossible. Depressing to think about.
Or you could think of other reasons school shootings occur and attempt to address that. But yeah, we should just throw our hands up after the gun debate stops and get depressed about it because guns
 
Amazing work...wish we could find a happy medium. These schools being gun free zones with no police on site makes them easy targets. But the funding is not there for them to be there

I guess private schools have the funds to make it happen and honestly seeing some of these news schools being built and the athletic facilities, they could probably lighten up on those budgets and protect the schools with armed officers or retired military.

It is sad that it has moved down to elementary level students but gun free zones are almost always the zones attacked. But man...what an impressive ass response and handling of this situation by police

If the janitor had been carrying a weapon, he would probably be alive today.

Crazy how important it is to carry a weapon in todays America.
 
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