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I talked to a Greenville restaurant owner today

It's hard to tell there are any resrictions going on in the upstate other than not being able to get a haircut or sit down wherever you want to eat. I don't see why those businesses get singled out when everywhere else is slammed packed. If Wal Mart, Target,Lowes,Home Depot etc can manage safely I'm sure small business can.

As far as people reporting, there are a ton of people on furlough enjoying a free spring vacation enjoying nice weather and not feeling the urge to go back just yet. Have heard many people say they hope they don't have to go back for at least a few weeks. Others that need get their business going should be able to tho.
 
Not good situation at all. There is apparently a barbershop up there that has reopened in defiance of the executive order. The Gov made a comment that the owner could be subject to arrest. The “Michigan Militia” made a statement that the owner would not be arrested and that they would block law enforcement from entry into the barbershop ....

ya .... all it’s going to take is one member of the “militia” to go full @treetiger OR one LEO with @johnhugh -esq delusions to change the world for this to get out of hand ricky tick ......

Yep, as I said before, I took an oath when I joined the army to protect this nation, and this democracy, and I spent nine (9) years doing so under that oath, and I would take to the streets if necessary to fight any socialist, fascist, or commie bastard to do so. If that is what you mean by 'full treetiger' and you are represented by one of the 'ist's' that I mentioned, may the 'full treetiger' be against you and the 'force' be with me!!!
 
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Yep, as I said before, I took an oath when I joined the army to protect this nation, and this democracy, and I spent nine (9) years doing so under that oath, and I would take to the streets if necessary to fight any socialist, fascist, or commie bastard to do so. If that is what you mean by 'full treetiger' and you are represented by one of the 'ist's' that I mentioned, may the 'full treetiger' be against you and the 'force' be with me!!!
I am one with the force and the force is with me ;)

thank you for your service
 
He said a SLED agent warned him they are checking capacity violations. Citizens have been informing on violations since the stay at home orders have been in place.

Communism at its finest

I don't believe a government agency responding to complaints by citizens in response to a worldwide health crisis successfully falls within the "communism" category. You think SLED or the SC government is "communist?" I guess that makes, Trump a communist too then? Or is it the blue states? Did Cuomo order SLED to shut down SC businesses?

The paranoia and inconsistencies are dumbfounding.

Damn, we have some brainwashed anarchists in this country.
 
I don't believe a government agency responding to complaints by citizens in response to a worldwide health crisis accurately falls within the "communism" category. You think SLED or the SC government is "communist?" I guess that makes Trump a communist too? Or is it the blue states? Did Cuomo order SLED to shut down SC businesses?

The paranoia and inconsistencies are dumbfounding. You realize that we had laws and regulations before the COVID, right? Does enforcement of laws or regulations equal communism? Do you have any understanding, whatsoever, of what communism means? Do you believe your statement on this board criticizing your government would be so casually made in a communist country?

Damn, we have some brainwashed anarchists in this country.
 
Club pro I know said SLED has been going around SC golf courses checking social distancing.

Had an officer come through the parking lot at Stonebridge golf course Mineral springs, NC a couple weekends ago. Probably 6 to 8 of us drinking a beer out of the back of the cars and talking. He didnt say much and was nice. We were trying to keep the six degrees of separation. We all had open containers, so was a little surprised he really sd nothing.
 
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It's hard to tell there are any resrictions going on in the upstate other than not being able to get a haircut or sit down wherever you want to eat. I don't see why those businesses get singled out when everywhere else is slammed packed. If Wal Mart, Target,Lowes,Home Depot etc can manage safely I'm sure small business can.

As far as people reporting, there are a ton of people on furlough enjoying a free spring vacation enjoying nice weather and not feeling the urge to go back just yet. Have heard many people say they hope they don't have to go back for at least a few weeks. Others that need get their business going should be able to tho.
Do you know what furloughed means? My brother and sister in law at furloughed till November. That means they don’t get paid. It isn’t a ****ing vacation.
 
Do you know what furloughed means? My brother and sister in law at furloughed till November. That means they don’t get paid. It isn’t a ****ing vacation.

I don’t get your point? In most cases it means companies hold their job, pays their insurance, and they collect $937/week unemployment in SC. So yeah, a lot of these people are treating it as PTO.
 
not sure you know what communism is, since you are discussing a business owned by a private citizen

That private business is forced to comply with our central planners. Even Nazi Germany had “private” business owners.

I got a black market tattoo this past weekend lol. Nothing like a legit tax paying business owner having to break the law so they can have money to survive...

Regardless of your definition of communism, we can all agree it’s fascist.
 
Regardless of your definition of communism, we can all agree it’s fascist.

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader,

Yes, we can agree that the Trump government is fascist.

--Mr. DT
 
Contracts aren’t relevant if our central planners say they aren’t relevant. Plenty of property owners are banned by law to collect rent right now.

Are they banned from collecting rent or are they banned from evicting? I honestly don't know. I view it as while people may not pay a month or two of rent, it is still due.

I dont really care, just thinking about it. If I am a landlord and i have the choice of missing 2 months rent or finding a new tenant ..... i miss the two months rent. Hopefully people work it out on their own. But if it goes to court, i think the contracts state the rent is due, doubtful there was an exclusion for a pandemic. Not a lawyer either. ha
 
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Are they banned from collecting rent or are they banned from evicting? I honestly don't know. I view it as while people may not pay a month or two of rent, it is still due.

I dont really care, just thinking about it. If I am a landlord and i have the choice of missing 2 months rent or finding a new tenant ..... i miss the two months rent. Hopefully people work it out on their own. But if it goes to court, i think the contracts state the rent is due, doubtful there was an exclusion for a pandemic. Not a lawyer either. ha
It depends on the contract. Most have a Force Majeure clause that can be a little fuzzy
 
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I don’t get your point? In most cases it means companies hold their job, pays their insurance, and they collect $937/week unemployment in SC. So yeah, a lot of these people are treating it as PTO.
Yes to all that. I would hope most people make more than $1000 a week though. You're probably not "vacationing" on a pay cut. You're also still paying taxes on that $937 come next year on that money that's being given to you.
 
Yes to all that. I would hope most people make more than $1000 a week though. You're probably not "vacationing" on a pay cut. You're also still paying taxes on that $937 come next year on that money that's being given to you.

I know you’re on TI and all, but if you think most people in upstate sc make more than $1000/week you’re mistaken. Especially the ones he’s referring to. The $600 federal will not be taxed when this is all over with I’d bet.
 
The one good thing that I have seen from this whole fiasco is people are treating people more politely in public. I see folks allowing others to go 1st. I speak to people that I dont know. More people are polite back to me than I have ever noticed before.

THIS!!! I am out every day working. I see this too. Very encouraging. The good deeds passed along seem to be working right now. Just holding the door for someone seems to lighten the mood for everyone around.

I hope this pattern holds up.
 
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This is a

ridiculous statement. Right or wrong they are trying to make people safe. I don’t know whether wearing a mask helps save people but it’s not going to hurt me or anyone else by trying. Be safe not sorry. I can’t believe people freaking think this way. I for one don’t believe in all the testing that we are doing because I think they haven’t been perfected yet but I don’t blame anyone.

I understand what you are saying, but respectfully, I don't think you are more intelligent than Ben.

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Alls I can say is that Stalin and Hitler would love smartphones. Everyone with a camera sending in pics to the state and taddling on their neighbors, easy way to find dissidents.
 
He said a SLED agent warned him they are checking capacity violations. Citizens have been informing on violations since the stay at home orders have been in place.

Communism at its finest
Then tell the SLED agent to get out of the store since he isn't a paying customer and he's messing with your capacity numbers.
 
I don't believe a government agency responding to complaints by citizens in response to a worldwide health crisis successfully falls within the "communism" category. You think SLED or the SC government is "communist?" I guess that makes, Trump a communist too then? Or is it the blue states? Did Cuomo order SLED to shut down SC businesses?

The paranoia and inconsistencies are dumbfounding.

Damn, we have some brainwashed anarchists in this country.

This is just foolishness. You realize a "global pandemic" (if you want to call it that) doesn't effect every part of the globe the same. Here in SC there's absolutely zero evidence that there needs to be any more concern over COVID than there is over a flu season.

This isn't paranoia and inconsistencies. These are people who's livelihood's and freedoms have been stripped from them without any data to support the extreme measures.

If you're someone who chooses to live your life in fear then that's your choice. Let's not allow that mental illness to effect the majority who sees this thing for exactly what it is.
 
Club pro I know said SLED has been going around SC golf courses checking social distancing.
Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader,

Yes, we can agree that the Trump government is fascist.

--Mr. DT
Ahhh. You need to study a little more slick. The Republician party embraces a weaker Federal government with many rights being pushed to the states. It's the party than champions free enterprise and the spirit of America.

Its the Democratic party that wants us all to subsume to the borg. They want a powerful central government which controls every aspect of society. They strive to over regulate industry and over legislate its citizens. Kind of like a recent President who REQUIRED all of us to pay for health insurance or be fined.

You want to see a facist, look no further than Obama, Biden and Hillary.
 
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