Wow. You are like the Iraqi Minister of Information back in the day. Really amazing how you cultivate information to paint a rosy but usually false picture of people you like. LOL
Indicting Trump??
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Wow. You are like the Iraqi Minister of Information back in the day. Really amazing how you cultivate information to paint a rosy but usually false picture of people you like. LOL
Non Disclosure Agreements aren't illegal. They are a part of business every day. I've signed dozens of them in my lifetime.
Using campaign funds for such things is a violation of Federal Election Commission.
Trump should be fined.
Just asked Hilary and the Democratic party. She was fined a whopping $8000 for using campaign funds to create the fake "Steele Dosier." She classified the $100's of thousands of dollars used for this as "legal fees."
Using campaign funds for such things is a violation of Federal Election Commission.
Trump should be fined.
Just asked Hilary and the Democratic party. She was fined a whopping $8000 for using campaign funds to create the fake "Steele Dosier." She classified the $100's of thousands of dollars used for this as "legal fees."
Well I'm pretty pissed today because my Soros check is late. See? It's not all rosy with my benefactor...
He's like many others that are completely radicalized. They have been programmed to think a certain way. It's really sad.
I'm aware of the story - i'm also aware there's some nuance to be considered when looking at the actions of a preteen in Nazi occupied Hungary who's trying to keep himself and his family alive.
He wasn’t living with his family. You clearly aren’t aware of the story. He was in no danger because the Nazis thought he was a Christian.
Edit: he was also 14.
This is inaccurate. The Trump organization paid Cohen not his campaign. The issue isn’t if the payments are illegal in concept, they are not, it was that they were reported as a legal expense when it should have been reported differently on the books at the Trump organization.
The only question about the campaign is was the payment, in reality, an unreported gift to his campaign that should have been documented. The FEC declined to purse this because they have no way to prove that. You can assume that is true, but one could reasonably assume that Trump the individual would want that quiet vs. Trump the candidate.
It is very thin and arbitrary case. Anyone that doesn’t think politics is at the core of this indictment is choosing to believe a fallacy.
He was originally living with his family when Hungary was occupied, and then moved in with a Hungarian official as his supposed Christian godson. This was after his family had purchased documents saying they were Christians as well. I'm aware of the story.
LMAO! Dude who guzzles dem narrative like a Linda Lovelace wannbe, pulls a meme from his favorite "truth" source to try and slam someone. Classic DPIC.
You are making my point. Both sides can't help themselves. It's really sad but it's our soceity now. Meanwhile, both parties are raising even more money to keep the country divided. Keep people programmed and radicalized as the game goes on.
Hopefully, one day, people will be able to wake up.
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Glad you googled this to get your story straight. At first he was an “informant”. Now you could write the guy’s biography
At least I can say I'm not programmed and radicalized by networks that get sued for billions of dollars, argue in court that they shouldn't be taken seriously, with anchors that text each other calling the guests they're hosting lying pieces of shit - behind the scenes of course.
I can assure you I have my own mind and I'm a voracious reader, so you don't worry about what I consume. I know I'm right. ;-)
NO he just gave money to the organization that gave money to Bragg. That way no direct ties to Soros. They use groups like Act Blue to funnel money....
You think you're reputable? If it weren't for your military analysis, you'd just be another obnoxious, partisan shitposter - which you are most of the time.
I’ve never watched a minute of Fox News in my life. Not a joke pal. I’m not kidding.
Thanks for the clarification.
Put me in the camp if believing that just about any high profile case has a political bend to it. But I also believe that that doesn’t mean a crime wasn’t committed and that present and former office holders, even Presidents, should be able to be held accountable for crimes.
If you value morality then how could you even bring yourself to vote at all then? Joe Biden is much worse in reality than your wildest dreams of what you want Trump to be. I call bs on your statement. It's just holier than thou bs.
Yes people come up with any crazy names for that group. Whatever you call them they would love for the drones on both sides to try and kill each other. This strat has been used for over 2000 years on the commons. We keep falling for it. You should ask why they arent trying to calm things down. Instead they keep throwing gas on it and us commons are eating it up to the point now all out civil war can happen at any moment. Millions of us commons will die while they fortify their power and wealth at our expense. They wont be the ones suffering in the coming fight it will be us...
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Foreign interests are at work.
www.foxnews.com
Soros family helped push Manhattan DA Bragg into power
George Soros' donation to a group that backed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is back in the spotlight, but he's not the only Soros family member to support him.
I’d be fine with it if it was someone I did like. You are, decidedly, not fine with it since it’s happening to someone you like.
No problem with holding presidents accountable as long as it isn’t selective. This has the appearance of petty and selective. I guess we shall see.
Trump is a petty guy and his practice of politics is the same way. I am not a fan of his but I can understand why he might be skeptical and frustrated with how the “system“ has treated him over the last 6 years.
At some point we have to separate not likening someone and thinking the deserve what the get and actually holding them to a different standard.
Not true. I am fine with anything that's real world legitimate. This is not and even you libs know it too.
Yes, there was a reason. trump was still president then, and you cannot indict a sitting president. Maybe you stop lecturing other people about the media they consume and examine your own diet.
Meh... Don't see the excitement here on either side. A grand jury indictment is nothing. What's the old saying... A decent Prosecutor could get a ham sandwich indicted? There's no representation by the defense, just the prosecutor and the Jury and only a majority vote needed.
I don't even think we know what the charges are yet. Correct? Is it even illegal to have your lawyer pay off hookers and then repay him while running a campaign? I don't know.
Anyway, I'd put this solidly in the wait and see category and someone get back to me when Trump is found guilty of anything. I can't say I'm impressed with charging him with paying off a hooker, but we'll see if there are any real charges soon. Prosecutors have a lot of power in this country... they get to pick the crimes they are going to prosecute. That's the way it is.
To use an example, Graham was appointed a special prosecutor to look into the FBI/Trump issues with the Russia investigation. He charged people with crimes and the left screamed like little bitches. It doesn't matter, he gets to do what he wants. And he did. And after 3 years and a TON of money spent... He got a whole lot of NOTHING and a lot of people say that that was a political prosecution, and given the results, they can make a decent argument for that. Personally, I have no idea... he had the reputation of be a hard ass for sure, but unless you show me proof, I'd go with the idea that he was just doing the best job he could.
It seems like the same thing here. A Grand Jury indictment is NOTHING. We'll see how this goes when the case goes before a judge and jury. If Trump is found not guilty, then the folks on the right will have a decent argument that this is a political prosecution. If he's found guilty, they won't.
As for the campaign... I can't see this having ANY effect. Any of you Trump supporters, please chime in below if you answer ANY of the following questions with "Yes". Has your support for Trump changed at all since he's been indicted? IF Trump were actually found guilty of this, would you refuse to support him? Going further... IF Trump were charged in Ga with election tampering AND/OR he were found guilty of that would you stop supporting him and refuse to vote for him? I suspect that the answers to the above are a resounding NO. And the other side is true as well. I'm not going to vote for Trump. Not ever. So if he's guilty or innocent makes no difference to me as far as a Presidential campaign. So again, I feel that this a big old nothing burger.
I don't even think we know what the charges are yet. Correct? Is it even illegal to have your lawyer pay off hookers and then repay him while running a campaign? I don't know.
Anyway, I'd put this solidly in the wait and see category and someone get back to me when Trump is found guilty of anything. I can't say I'm impressed with charging him with paying off a hooker, but we'll see if there are any real charges soon. Prosecutors have a lot of power in this country... they get to pick the crimes they are going to prosecute. That's the way it is.
To use an example, Graham was appointed a special prosecutor to look into the FBI/Trump issues with the Russia investigation. He charged people with crimes and the left screamed like little bitches. It doesn't matter, he gets to do what he wants. And he did. And after 3 years and a TON of money spent... He got a whole lot of NOTHING and a lot of people say that that was a political prosecution, and given the results, they can make a decent argument for that. Personally, I have no idea... he had the reputation of be a hard ass for sure, but unless you show me proof, I'd go with the idea that he was just doing the best job he could.
It seems like the same thing here. A Grand Jury indictment is NOTHING. We'll see how this goes when the case goes before a judge and jury. If Trump is found not guilty, then the folks on the right will have a decent argument that this is a political prosecution. If he's found guilty, they won't.
As for the campaign... I can't see this having ANY effect. Any of you Trump supporters, please chime in below if you answer ANY of the following questions with "Yes". Has your support for Trump changed at all since he's been indicted? IF Trump were actually found guilty of this, would you refuse to support him? Going further... IF Trump were charged in Ga with election tampering AND/OR he were found guilty of that would you stop supporting him and refuse to vote for him? I suspect that the answers to the above are a resounding NO. And the other side is true as well. I'm not going to vote for Trump. Not ever. So if he's guilty or innocent makes no difference to me as far as a Presidential campaign. So again, I feel that this a big old nothing burger.
Sorry but I’m gonna have to take “real world legitimate” with a grain of salt when it comes from someone who still believes Trump’s election fraud claims.
They’re not charging him with paying off a hooker. The charge will relate to where the money came from and how it was reported.
I do think you’re right though, that this really doesn’t impact the campaign. I think the hay is already in the barn with Trump. Those that love him will just love him more, those that hate him will just hate him more. We saw this play out in 2020, where polling showed extremely low numbers of “undecideds” and polls really didn’t move much at all over the last 6 months or so if the cycle vs the 2016 election where there were huge numbers of undecideds.
He is actually right, and you are wrong. If I donated to that PAC, could you accuse me of directly bankrolling Bragg's campaign?
Your take on this is as absurd as liberals who accused trump of owning an hydroxychloroquine company during covid, when in reality he invested money in a fund that invested in a company (among many other companies).
This is correct. You only need a majority of jurors on a grand jury, a real conviction will require a unanimous jury.
Even if convicted, it would be very unlikely that trump will serve time and he can still be president.
Of course, at this point, nobody has even seen what the charges are. Everything is speculation. Which makes it even more hilarious that magas are in here defending trump with so much certainty.
That's simply not true. Federal prosecutors declined to pursue the orange man AFTER he was out of office.
You can try and fit any narrative you want but at the end of the day this is politically motivated. A DA in Manhattan has decided to hang his name and career on something that likely has to do with campaign finances from 7 years ago. This is political revenge. Something every citizen should be concerned about.
This is a slippery slope and can lead to even more weaponization of our justice system from both sides.
Hope you had this same energy in 2016 when Trump was saying very loudly that he would use the DOJ to pursue the Clintons and other political rivals.
As I've said over and over ITT, I dont think any of us should be okay with persecution of political opponents. Regardless of which side you are on. This is what happens in third world countries.
The problem is so many Americans still have Trump derangement syndrome and are willing to be okay with this type of thing because they have so much hatred for him and this is personal.
Do you seriously not believe he should be prosecuted for what he's done since the election? I don't know how any rational person could believe we should let that slide, as it signals that Presidents are above the law and can get away with anything. Which means the next time a president tries to overturn a fair election, he could succeed with no consequences. Surely you don't think he should get away scot-free?
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