All I know is that I want in on the next round of staying at home and getting paid more than if I was working. Like a schmuck, I worked through the last round and feel left out.
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I’m no expert just asking a question; so you can have the virus and then test negative multiple times and then not get the virus again but then start back testing positive from the initial positive?You skipped over "prolonged positive tester" that answered your question.
If anyone wants to get "clinical" and review the facts and data @Buzzards Roost preluded too
Prolonged presence of viral nucleic acid in clinically recovered COVID-19 patients was not associated with effective infectiousness
Prolonged presence of viral nucleic acid was reported in certain patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), with unclear clinical and epidemiological significance. We here described the cli...www.tandfonline.com
Why back in May did the CDC stop tracking deaths of vaccinated and partially vaccinated while other countries did not? From PHE (Public Health England), 63.4% of Covid deaths are vaccinated people. Can you back up your statement with data, or is this strictly your opinion?
DC is A Swamp... That much is true!. A bunch of self serving egotistical power hungry money hungry Asses. DC will always find a way to keep the population divided in feelings and views. The MSM helps promote that process.
Save your breath. If people don't understand by now they're just too dumb to get it. Dunning Krueger Effect.
I am no expert either but I have no idea where you got that from. Individuals like Rahm are defined in study and data..
The new insights gained in the paper by Line K Vibholm and colleagues, published recently in EbioMedicine allow a greater understanding of the prolonged RNA detection in pharyngeal swabs from COVID-19 patients, the risk associated with this finding, and the immunological responses in convalescent individuals with a history of rRT-PCR verified SARS-CoV-2 infection [[4]]. Two hundred and three patients with documented SARS-CoV-2 PCR positivity 12 weeks prior to the study who had fully recovered from COVID-19 were monitored at two time points (time point 1: 14 days-12 weeks after positive PCR; time point 2: 6-10 weeks after time point 1) using digital PCR (ddPCR) to detect viral RNA on pharyngeal swabs. ddPCR assures maximal sensitivity (100%) in detecting SARS-CoV-2, allowing for the absolute quantitation of copy numbers [[5]]. Twenty-six individuals (12.8%) were positive for SARS-CoV-2 at time 1 while, at time point 2, five (5.3%) were found to be positive (up to 105 days after recovery), and a subset of participants had remarkably high viral loads (103 copies per swab). This value is comparable to that found in acutely affected COVID-19 patients, even if sampling was performed more than four weeks after symptom onset. Therefore, overall in enrolled participants, SARS-CoV-2 PCR positivity declined over time, but viral RNA was detected in some individuals up to 109 days after symptom onset, and COVID-19 patients with mild or asymptomatic disease (group 1) were more likely to be persistently PCR positive than participants with a more severe illness (groups 2 and 3).
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(21)00027-X/fulltext
Sure.
In TN “almost all cases of severe illness – resulting in hospitalization or death – are among the unvaccinated. About 97% of all hospitalizations and 98%+ of deaths are among the unvaccinated.”
In TX “Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.”
Here’s some additional data (from the same source you cited) that seems to be fairly compelling that the vaccination program has had a profound positive impact in improving transmission/mortality/outcomes. PHE appears to update this every other week.
PHE from 3 days ago
Very interesting, especially since this completely contradicts what the CDC published in April, with 7.157 new Covid cases among fully vaccinated people and 88 deaths among those. And again, the CDC conveniently stopped tracking deaths of the vaccinated in May. So which one is it?
This is also opposite of what other countries are reporting. In July the Israeli Health Minister reported 60% of new ‘seriously ill’ Covid patients were fully vaccinated, and 90% of those infected over age 50 were fully vaccinated.
You also have to remember that there are 3-4 months of new data since April. Additionally, there are different types of vaccines out in those countries that may or may be as effective as what we are taking.
IDK but I didn’t make up the data I posted above.
A long-term perspective on immunity to COVID
Clinical evidence for long-lasting immunity to SARS-CoV-2 infection
www.nature.com
Here’s one
You folks do not think straight at all. Donald Trump for the record is the POTUS who started operation warp speed and enabled the fast production of the vaccines. Donald Trump took the vaccine. Donald Trump has publicly over and over recommended that all adults take the vaccines.
I am as big of a Trump supporter as there can be and I havent take the vaccine and do not plan to. I support Trump because I agree with most of what he does, but not on the vaccine level. You leftward vaccine lovers should be thanking Trump that you got your deliverance is the way I see it. Go smoke on that for awhile and then go get the vaccine again just to get yourself all happy again for a bit.
If the vaccines are that good then why continue with this semi state of emergency? Vaccinated people are protected and unvaccinated people understand their risk. Lets go back to normal. Thousands die from the flu yearly and the world wasnt shut down. This whole thing is like a bad episode of the twilight zone the way they keep changing the story and almost half the population is more than happy to blindly follow along with each change like its the gospel.
He clearly stated that the CDC quit tracking deaths of vaccinated and partially vaccinated people. Think thats got something to do with it?
No. I comprehended it and its incorrect and I told you why.
I’m not saying we need to continue this state of emergency. We’re simply in it, whether we like it or not, because of the unvaccinated.
Guess we will be in it perpetually then, cuz there are a lot of us that don’t trust the people pushing the jab because they lack trust due to past lies (Russia) and have failed to communicate clearly (both parties and administrations).
I would venture to say half the hold outs are making a political statement.
I would say wat more than half holding out are making a political statement. They certainly aren't following the overwhelming documentation,case studies,facts, and experts.
No. No you didn't...I'm not anywhere close 2 being on the left regarding anything and I'm not remotely a vaccine lover..You don't have a fuking clue..It went completely over ur head so just stop..Smh lol
Well based on your coments, you appear not to know your head from the proverbial hole in the ground. The other guy said the cdc quit tracking stats for vaccinated people in the US and that in the UK where they are tracking stats over 50% of the deaths are from vaccinated people and you apparently just ignored that and replied with a stat in the US that is not counting covid vaccinated persons.
metiger01 said:
Why back in May did the CDC stop tracking deaths of vaccinated and partially vaccinated while other countries did not? From PHE (Public Health England), 63.4% of Covid deaths are vaccinated people. Can you back up your statement with data, or is this strictly your opinion?
My comment didn't have a damn thing 2 do with vaccines...My comment is directed at people who can't keep Donald Trump's name outta their mouths
The whole “follow the science” routine is old and played out. We can all see the data, it’s called statistical science and we can all make our own decisions.
Pfizer efficacy rate is 95% against the alpha strain. Youre uncle is in that 5%
A long-term perspective on immunity to COVID
Clinical evidence for long-lasting immunity to SARS-CoV-2 infection
Here’s one
here is another
Natural Immunity After COVID-19 Found Durable and Robust
Most recovered COVID-19 patients mount broad, durable immunity after coronavirus infection
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