Dana Bash hit Pence with that exact question, right after Pence had said nearly verbatim the same horseshit about we shouldn't be prosecuting this blah blah blah.
Pence had absolutely no response.
LoL Trump Indicted by Feds. LOCK HIM UP š
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Pence had absolutely no response.
Yep. Simple as this, shut it down folks
Iāve had a top secret and worked with similar information to some of the defense stuff called out in the indictment in the past.
If I did like 1/10 of this Iād get a decade plus in fed.
There is a huge difference between the documents with Trump and with Biden,Pence,Clinton etc. They all willingly returned docs. Trump lied,hid, and obstructed.
If I knew I had been pursued by entrenched state interests seeking my personal and political downfall for the previous 7 years I would simply not take classified documents to my residence illegally, admit on tape to knowing that Iād taken them and shouldn't have, share that information with uncleared persons on tape, and then get caught lying about whether or not Iād returned it all.
So either your tweet is totally wrong, Trump is the stupidest person alive, or very possibly both.
So either your tweet is totally wrong, Trump is the stupidest person alive, or very possibly both.
You are totally off your rocker but there is a difference. Trump as potus had ABSOLUTE authority to declassify documents while Biden as a senator and then as vp did not. Your butt buddy @okclem clearly stated that intent does not matter so under that reality it only matters that Biden did it.
Btw,,,all of you fags go and suck nuts.
FBI agent in charge of Trump Mar-a-Lago raid had 'strong concerns'
Jim Jordan said Friday an FBI agent had voiced 'strong concerns' and revealed 'several unusual features' in the Department of Justice's raid on Mar-a-Lago.
ANOTHER BOGUS ATTACK: DC Court Already Ruled in 2012 Case on Trumpās Right to Hold White House Documents ā In their Ruling on Bill Clintonās Right to Hold Secret Tapes in His Sock Drawer
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ANOTHER BOGUS ATTACK: DC Court Already Ruled in 2012 Case on Trump's Right to Hold White House Documents - In their Ruling on Bill Clinton's Right to Hold Secret Tapes in His Sock Drawer | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
It should be obvious by now that the Democrats will DO ANYTHING to indict President Trump and prevent him from winning another election including perverting the law in their favor.
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He admitted on tape that he had not declassified these documents. You are completely wrong and Trump is still a liar.
Lol @TigerGrowls spiraling as reality becomes more inescapable.
How dumb do you have to be to be on tape and tell someone to look at these top secret documents that you didn't declassify and would get in trouble if you showed them to people?
That's the height of idiocy. It's a recorded confession and admission that all of you excuses were wrong in one. And on tape.
That's the height of idiocy. It's a recorded confession and admission that all of you excuses were wrong in one. And on tape.
It is soooo obvious from these tweets you are posting that the author of the tweets (and yourself) haven't read the indictment.
Willfull intent absolutely matters. It is almost impossible to prosecute a case like this unless you have the idiot who took the documents get caught on tape saying he knows they are secret and saying that he KNOWS HE DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO DECLASSIFY THE TOP SECRET DOCUMENT HE IS SHOWING SOMEONE ILLEGALLY. His authority to declassify ends once he is no longer president. He knew that and is caught on tape saying he knew he couldn't just declassify a document--and knew that he wasn't supposed to have the docs or show them to people. That is the beginning of proving the willful intent.
The other major thing that proves willful intent is when you get caught ON CAMERA directing someone to HIDE the documents and then ask your lawyers to lie about it multiple times. And then tell the lawyer to take out the classified documents instead of return them. WILLFULL INTENT is hard to prove but Trump made it possible in spades.
Who is this? Some kind of chinese agitprop--just so you know.
The person didn't read the indictment. Trump absolutely knew that he had classified docs--even marked on the outside of the boxes with his sharpie and kept obsessing over the boxes. He didn't want to be apart from them and even had them put on a plane to keep them with him so they wouldn't be taken away.
Yes--they were left totally insecure. Yes--they were haphazardly strewn around. Yes--our nuclear secrets were spilling out of boxes. But he hid and schemed to hide from his lawyers and the feds the boxes, which he knew had classified docs because he was caught showing them to people--WILLFUL INTENT.
And this morning--guess who quit (or was fired) as trumps lawyer once he read the indictment??
LOL.ANOTHER BOGUS ATTACK: DC Court Already Ruled in 2012 Case on Trumpās Right to Hold White House Documents ā In their Ruling on Bill Clintonās Right to Hold Secret Tapes in His Sock Drawer
ANOTHER BOGUS ATTACK: DC Court Already Ruled in 2012 Case on Trump's Right to Hold White House Documents - In their Ruling on Bill Clinton's Right to Hold Secret Tapes in His Sock Drawer | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
It should be obvious by now that the Democrats will DO ANYTHING to indict President Trump and prevent him from winning another election including perverting the law in their favor.
Good try. Clinton's tapes were like a journal made with a historian/biographer for a memoir kind of deal. Those were designated with the National Archives as personal records and the judge said they didn't have the authority to just change that designation.
You want to tell me Trump is going to argue in court that TOP SECRET nuclear codes and battle plans for attacking Iran are personal records?? LOL. Even if Trump wanted to try and make a ludicrous argument like that--he would've had to have done that while he was president. Again--he was caught on tape saying he knew a top secret document hadn't been declassified.
Try again.
I am not sure. From a political perspective, I think it would be horrible if he's president again. In that way I am all for him being unable to run. But then, I feel the current president is even worse. It's like choosing between death by firing squad or death by hanging.
All that said the justice system is being used as a weapon. It will be bad in that way because there has been decidedly uneven use of the law in so many ways. My wish is for a standard to be a standard that applies to everyone. Everything is so politicized now. Right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of any other factors. We don't have that in this country now. It's a worthy endeavor.
In this thread there are so many factually inaccurate statements from all angles all in the name of political warfare. There's some people who have turned into horrendous bigots because of their disdain for the opposing side. Who benefits from putting forward lies? The truth is there to hold all accountable and that makes everything better. We should stick to that and not have a case where the law is used as a political weapon.
The reading of the indictment shows it is very detailed and thorough. Trump did things wrong. He broke the law and shocker, he lied repeatedly. He's such a clown. He is unworthy to be considered for president. I'm just not sure sending him to jail is going to be helpful and if we're going to treat him this way then that treatment needs to be equal because there are really bad, corrupt politicians everywhere.
As I said, we're going down so many really bad roads right now. If we continue doing this we're going to end up with a civil war. I don't understand how people don't recognize this. People are actively putting forward things that are demonstrably untrue in the name of their agenda. We have to stop this before we no longer can.
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The picture in that tweet is disgusting and offensive. I can't believe you don't realize that. You made me so sad because I think you're a really nice guy but you have gotten lost in the rabbit hole. The guy is a troglodyte. Just a horrible person. He's using your blind face to him as a weapon against others. Don't be that guy.
Any tape that may be there almost surely doesn't mean what yall think and hope it does imo.
The moment POTUS talks about something or shows something its declassified on the spot. POTUS doesnt have any process to get approval since POTUS is the ultimate authority on the matter. This is the power every POTUS has and are the only ones with that power...
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Records management requirements The Presidential Records Act gives records management authority for incumbent Presidential records to the President, and states that personal records should be kept separate upon their creation or receipt from the Presidential record files [44 U.S.C. Ā§ 2203(b)]. The Office of the White House Counsel generally provides PRA policy guidance. Although NARA has limited records management authority over incumbent Presidential records, NARA routinely provides records management guidance based on its institutional knowledge and expertise to the incumbent Administration upon request. White House staff responsible for maintaining file systems must be trained to keep personal records separate from Presidential records at the point of creation. Once items have been mixed, it becomes difficult to determine record status. Since the President has the discretion to determine what is personal material, this determination should be made during the incumbentās term of office rather than after the records are transferred to NARA.
The Court ruling-
In the Court's view, plaintiff reads too much into this statement. Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion, see44 U.S.C. Ā§ 2203(b), so the Deputy Archivist could not and did not make a classification decision that can be challenged here. When she posited that perhaps the plaintiff was asking NARA āto make a further determination that the materials in question ought to be considered ā[P]residential records,ā ā she was, if anything, as counsel for the defendant suggested at the hearing, opining on the question of whether there were grounds for the Archivist to choose to invoke the enforcement mechanism embodied in the statute. Tr. at 8; 23ā24. But, neither plaintiff nor defendant believes that is a decision that is at issue in this lawsuit, see id., at 8ā9, 37, 42, and 50, and, as is discussed below, such a decision would not be reviewable in any event.
This is about the DC gestapo wanting back the declassified operation crossfire hurricane documents and of course nailing Trump at any cost.
I was not aware that charges had been filed. Where can I read about the indictment?
Hahahaha well that's certainly one way of discrediting evidence.
Trump is going to jail.
