Nikki Haley says she will not block Syrian refugees.....

[appalachiatiger]

i heard 14 so far

all young men 20s

radicals

so lets put a tracking device in each one

or give them an obama phone we can track

 

[appalachiatiger]

anybody on here got an obamaphone or knows someone who does?

wonder if they are smartphones bluetooth and wifi capable?

 

[ddot7]

Never seen so many people be so outright with their bigotry.

Really? Just read this board often enough and you'll get a strong enough dose of it.

ok love your nationalistic approach

if you wanna bring in christian refugees who believe in our values thats cool

but muslems are a big fat NO

Christian refugees who believe in OUR values? I know your posts come across like you're a f&^king idiot but I thought it was an act until now. Disgusting.

Per multiple news outlets, Haley has now backed off that and says SC will not accept Syrian refugees.

Good. There's no reason for one single state to accept one of them. Go somewhere else, and if none of you agree with not accepting them, go to the nearest mountain and jump off the side of it.

One single state accepting 10k? Where did you get that from?

That's 10,000 per MONTH and Americans just voted in the first majority Muslim city council in Michigan. Now, what's so far fetched about his original statement?

10k per MONTH? Where did you get that from?

 

[marathontiger1]

When the communists captured South Viet Nam, we made arrangements for many refugees to come to the United States. Some of those refugees and their offspring have become extraordinary and accomplished American citizens. After wars in Iraq, we made arrangements for persecuted Iraquis and translators for the military to come to the U.S. When Jews were being persecuted in the Soviet Union, we pleaded with the Soviets to let them emigrate to the U.S.

That is America!

Europe is taking a huge number of refugees. America's commitment to date is very small by comparison.

You're not as intelligent as you'd have folks on here believe. Your ignorance of historical events, and (willful?) lack of historical context is worse. That you've demonstrated a complete inability to understand just who these Syrians are, which side they're on (now, and why that matters), and why they're leaving their country, as it is with Obama, is dangerous.

 

[andcam]

But yeah a woman who stays with a man who cheats nonstop for the entire relationship is questionable

As the late great Tammy Wynette song said "Stand by your man.". She also is a good role model to Amy Duggar.

 

[andcam]

It's a joke. Geez. Lots of uptight people out there

My bad!

 

[Tigersix]

No. No it isn't 10000 a month. It's 10k this fiscal year with no official commitment yet for next fiscal year.

No, President Obama's plan is for 120,00.

 

[Tigersix]

Really? Just read this board often enough and you'll get a strong enough dose of it.
His original plan called for a sum total of 120000 refugees. That number has fluctuated to 10,000 for fiscal year 2015, but it's anybody's guess how many after that. I realize there's no commitment yet beyond that, but there are plans on the table for up to 120,000. Don't expect them to bring that up now, though.


Christian refugees who believe in OUR values? I know your posts come across like you're a f&^king idiot but I thought it was an act until now. Disgusting.



One single state accepting 10k? Where did you get that from?



10k per MONTH? Where did you get that from?

 

[Mac Tiger]

if the federal government chooses to spend federal relocation dollars on a particular refugee's settlement anywhere in the country, there is nothing the states can do to stop that. If barack obama wants to send 45 refugees to Clemson, he has the legal authority to do so.

BS. No he does not! Please show me what gives him that authority! His best option is to house them on military bases as the Commander and Chief. My God you dumb ass liberals really think he's our king.

 

[steele-tiger]

I have only every seen 10K total this fiscal year.

From USA Today

"He said President Obama should immediately stop taking Syrian refugees into the United States. Obama has said he wants the United States to take in at least 10,000 refugees who are fleeing for their lives from war-torn Syria."

From Fox News

"Earlier Sunday, White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told “Fox News Sunday” that President Obama still plans to allow 10,000 Syrian refugees into the country within the next year"

 

[touchdownbob]

My respect for Gov. Haley continues to increase.

You guys would have been real strong proponents of FDR putting Japanese Americans into concentration camps during WWII because "we couldn't trust Japs."

99 percent of the refugees are fleeing this type of terrorism. Many are Christian.

Some of the terrorists were apparently from Belgium. Do we turn away anyone from Belgium who wants to visit the U.S. or just the dark-skinned ones?

Where do you draw the line so you can be 100 percent safe?

Arbitrarily blocking any and all refugees is not the answer and doesn't represent the kind of nation I want to live in.

Said from the guy who wants to be liked by the internet, but in the real world the US GOVERNMENT cannot differentiate Syrians from psychos with fake Syrian passports. Let those in their own region who receive material support from the US Government take them, if they don't pose a threat.

 

[treetiger]

Should something bad happen to people in our nation by someone from these refugees, she would be the first one to excuse her way out of responsibility. We are facing failures and failed decisions by our politicians across the board, and all they are doing is trying to set out country up in the same predicament as France!

 

[mtkk2318]

Pretty sure I saw her on channel 4 Greenville tonight saying She Does Not want them here. Said she was joining forces with governors from NC and GA in telling obama not to try and send any here.

 

[touchdownbob]

For anyone that wishes to express their displeasure with Gov. Haley's position (or lack of a position), feel free to share your thoughts with her staff by following the link below.

https://iqconnect.lmhostediq.com/iqextranet/EForm.aspx?__cid=FSL_SC_GOV&__fid=100001

 

[touchdownbob]

I have only every seen 10K total this fiscal year.

From USA Today

"He said President Obama should immediately stop taking Syrian refugees into the United States. Obama has said he wants the United States to take in at least 10,000 refugees who are fleeing for their lives from war-torn Syria."

From Fox News

"Earlier Sunday, White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told “Fox News Sunday” that President Obama still plans to allow 10,000 Syrian refugees into the country within the next year"

For those of us with out Secrete Service details, it only takes 1/10,000 to kill or maim your children. Does anyone remember photos of the children slaughtered at the Boston Marathon? How about mothers and fathers jumping off the World Trade Center? How about those psycho nut cases burning that Jordanian pilot, or beheading American citizens, and the list goes on and on and on...

So, I ask again, what rational person would accept a single person from that region without valid confirmation that they present 0.000000% chance of a threat to US citizens?

 

[iceheart08]

BS. No he does not! Please show me what gives him that authority! His best option is to house them on military bases as the Commander and Chief. My God you dumb ass liberals really think he's our king.

Good thing for those families you have no idea what you are talking about. . House them on military bases?

So you think Nicki Haley has the right to deny a person legally here housing on the basis of national identity/religion?

I'm sorry we aren't understanding each other. You, like so many ITT seem to be speaking "partisan hyperbole". I happen to be speaking " legal authority ", maybe we can find a translator here?

 

[touchdownbob]

Good thing for those families you have no idea what you are talking about. . House them on military bases?

So you think Nicki Haley has the right to deny a person legally here housing on the basis of national identity/religion?

I'm sorry we aren't understanding each other. You, like so many ITT seem to be speaking "partisan hyperbole". I happen to be speaking " legal authority ", maybe we can find a translator here?

Completely agree with the comment above. You are quick to pull the xenophobe card, when all evidence suggests that our enemy is exploiting (actually creating) the Syrian conflict to hide ISIS jihadis among "refugees." One of the Paris murders has been confirmed to be either Syrian or carrying a fake Syrian passport. Our government has admitted that it cannot differentiate friend from foe. So, with those FACTS, how can anyone against the potential importation of ISIS jihadis (a stated motive from their leadership) be labeled a xenophobe? Rather, your inability to consider facts would lead me to believe that you are either ignorant or worse. Just saying. Going forward, you might hold your pejoratives if you can't handle facts. Just saying.

 

[Army Tiger]

"While governors across the country have threatened to block efforts to resettle Syrian refugees in their states after terrorist attacks in Paris, Haley said that she supports refugees entering the Palmetto state and did not voice opposition or support for Syrians resettling in the state."

Read more: http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/30529654/nikki-haley-discusses-syrian-refugees#ixzz3rgRsEYWY

think you have that backwards...she is asking that they not send them here.

 

[touchdownbob]

think you have that backwards...she is asking that they not send them here.

I wish. The statement suggests that she is not taking a position either way. If the characterization is a misprint, then it is on her staff to correct the issue and to demand a correction. We shall see...

 

[matt9679]

think you have that backwards...she is asking that they not send them here.

She has now changed her mind. At first she was all about it. I imagine the backlash from this was persuasive to say the least..

 

[touchdownbob]

She has now changed her mind. At first she was all about it. I imagine the backlash from this was persuasive to say the least..

You're correct. The article "evolved." That said, this little gem is still in there, "Haley said that she supports refugees entering the Palmetto state and did not voice opposition or support for Syrians resettling in the state."

Read more: http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/30529654/nikki-haley-discusses-syrian-refugees#ixzz3riFINT5P

 

[Earle36]

Honest question, is Ddot legally retarded?

 

[iceheart08]

Completely agree with the comment above. You are quick to pull the xenophobe card, when all evidence suggests that our enemy is exploiting (actually creating) the Syrian conflict to hide ISIS jihadis among "refugees." One of the Paris murders has been confirmed to be either Syrian or carrying a fake Syrian passport. Our government has admitted that it cannot differentiate friend from foe. So, with those FACTS, how can anyone against the potential importation of ISIS jihadis (a stated motive from their leadership) be labeled a xenophobe? Rather, your inability to consider facts would lead me to believe that you are either ignorant or worse. Just saying. Going forward, you might hold your pejoratives if you can't handle facts. Just saying.

your "facts" are what you are using to justify your xenophobia. thats fine. thats your choice. doesnt change the fact that most ITT are flying their/your bigot flag real high. just own it.

"hold my pejoratives", did you forget that this is the internet?

 

[touchdownbob]

your "facts" are what you are using to justify your xenophobia. thats fine. thats your choice. doesnt change the fact that most ITT are flying their bigot flag real high.

What? You sound like an infant. Just to be clear, self preservation is not xenophobia. You stay on the side of suicide and the rest of us will carry your water.

 

[touchdownbob]

your "facts" are what you are using to justify your xenophobia. thats fine. thats your choice. doesnt change the fact that most ITT are flying their/your bigot flag real high. just own it.

"hold my pejoratives", did you forget that this is the internet?

Is our CIA chief a xenophobe?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/politics/isis-us-threat-paris-attacks/index.html

Or is your head up your ass?

 

[matt9679]

Good thing for those families you have no idea what you are talking about. . House them on military bases?

So you think Nicki Haley has the right to deny a person legally here housing on the basis of national identity/religion?

I'm sorry we aren't understanding each other. You, like so many ITT seem to be speaking "partisan hyperbole". I happen to be speaking " legal authority ", maybe we can find a translator here?

While the president does have legal authority to accept and place refugees as he pleases, im betting if enough states and citizens actually stand up against it we can have that changed. Thats the great thing about this country. We the people have the people have the power. Or at least we use to. People like you are all to willing to give king Obama all the power he desires. I don't understand why this is so hard to see. If enough Americans stand up and demand something we can effect legislation. That is why our constitution grants us the freedom of speech.

And before i am accused of being a racist or a nazi for this comment i want to say that i would not like to see all refugees from here on out denied entry in to the US. I do believe, however that at this time we need to proceed with caution. I dont think the country is in danger of being overrun by Muslims and i dont give a shit if people in this country are Muslim. To just allow these refugees into this country and pretend that some of them are not terrorist is just naive.

 

[ForzaTigre]

Is our CIA chief a xenophobe?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/politics/isis-us-threat-paris-attacks/index.html

Or is your head up your ass?

His liberal Hilary Clinton supporting head is up his ass. It'd be great to send these refugees to his neighborhood and see how he likes it.

Liberals are the fvckin worst kind of people.

 

[iceheart08]

While the president does have legal authority to accept and place refugees as he pleases, im betting if enough states and citizens actually stand up against it we can have that changed. Thats the great thing about this country. We the people have the people have the power. Or at least we use to. People like you are all to willing to give king Obama all the power he desires. I don't understand why this is so hard to see. If enough Americans stand up and demand something we can effect legislation. That is why our constitution grants us the freedom of speech.

give king obama all the power he desires? the law is from 1980. any president should have the authority to do so.

holy shit at all the hyperbole ITT.

SOURCE

 

[Howard's Jock]

His liberal Hilary Clinton supporting head is up his ass. It'd be great to send these refugees to his neighborhood and see how he likes it.

Liberals are the fvckin worst kind of people.

Imo all you assholes that live in extremes on either side of the aisle are the worst kinds of people.

 

[touchdownbob]

Imo all you assholes that live in extremes on either side of the aisle are the worst kinds of people.

I don't live on either side of anything... So, feel free to go fVck yourself.

Again, concern for one's family, friends, region, State, Country, should not be confused with anything other than common sense--unless you missed it, Paris happened. Again!

 

[matt9679]

give king obama all the power he desires? the law is from 1980. any president should have the authority to do so.

holy shit at all the hyperbole ITT.

SOURCE

Your right he has not set precedent on multiple occasions since taking office by all but forcing his legislation on us. He has used strong arm tactics since he has taken office. Im just exaggerating though, and liberals are the only ones in this country that are smart enough to get us through these tough times.

I get that completely securing our borders is all but impossible. I get that we do need immigrants to help this country move forward. To take these refugees and continuing to let illegal aliens just enter basically unchecked is a bad idea. Some of these refugees are terrorist. We will at some point have to start being far more selective on who we allow in this country. The world is far different than it was just 25 years ago.

I

 

[Hovice]

Admittedly, I know very little when it comes to politics other than the stereotypes that are often portrayed today (gun-slinging/homo-hating/racist repubs) vs (gay/transgender-loving/entitled-bitchass/protesting-libs). Please pardon my ignorance to those of you who are more educated than me on the matter, but seriously, why can't there be a vote on whether or not to accept these refugees and that be the end of it? Whether it be at a state or national level. Especially on an issue that's as controversial as this one.

 

[matt9679]

Admittedly, I know very little when it comes to politics other than the stereotypes that are often portrayed today (gun-slinging/homo-hating/racist repubs) vs (gay/transgender-loving/entitled-bitchass/protesting-libs). Please pardon my ignorance to those of you who are more educated than me on the matter, but seriously, why can't there be a vote on whether or not to accept these refugees and that be the end of it? Whether it be at a state or national level. Especially on an issue that's as controversial as this one.

Because that wouldnt be conducive to modern politics. According to the actions of both dems and repubs alike we are apparently no better than children and unable to decide for our selves what is best. Not to mention that media outlets and political strategies have pitted Americans against Americans making such a vote nearly impossible. While we bicker and fight amongst ourselves they laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[ForzaTigre]

Admittedly, I know very little when it comes to politics other than the stereotypes that are often portrayed today (gun-slinging/homo-hating/racist repubs) vs (gay/transgender-loving/entitled-bitchass/protesting-libs). Please pardon my ignorance to those of you who are more educated than me on the matter, but seriously, why can't there be a vote on whether or not to accept these refugees and that be the end of it? Whether it be at a state or national level. Especially on an issue that's as controversial as this one.

The most disturbing part is that it's controversial. You'd think Americans would care about preventing terrorist attacks on our soil, but being nice to precious little refugees from Syria is more important.

 

[Dbatz]

Huh?

So now these refugees are going to be able to vote in 2016?

Do you really believe this? Do you think anyone else does?

And how does your argument even make sense when you say Democrats AND some Republicans will do this for political gain? Are both parties trying to monopolize the always critical Syrian-American vote in the US (by the way, I am asking that sarcastically if you can't figure that out)?

It's not about 2016, and there is a reason the states being targeted are being targeted. 26 states have now vowed not to take the refugees....you packing yet? Your mindset does not represent america, it also is a good illustration of why you are the most disliked poster on TI. How does that make you feel? You would probably fit in better on the UCLA message board mingling with all the other salad tossers.

 

[Dbatz]

The same way you vet people from any other country who want to move here. Easy? No. And that is why the numbers will be so low and the time it will take to resettle will be a long time from today. But we will cross check them against intelligence reports.

We have no credible way to vet these people and you know it. No rational person can intelligently argue that we are not more safe without these refugees in any form. You put your flawed ideology above the safety of even your own family.

 

[Da Swami]

You should read the thread. She backed off of that as she should have.

*sigh* I heard and it was after my post. The need for her party to win the Presidency and hang their hate on fear mongering won over her Christianity. After all some individuals can pick and choose when to be a Christian

 

[Da Swami]

We have no credible way to vet these people and you know it. No rational person can intelligently argue that we are not more safe without these refugees in any form. You put your flawed ideology above the safety of even your own family.

You should actually read up on the whole topic but I understand it is part of your narrow mindset. The United Nations High commission for Refugees not only do an intensive background check, interview that takes up to two years but they also track the place refugees. 76% of the Syrian regime are women and children ESCAPING a ravish country destroyed by war. So lets place blame directly where it fits - ISIS and the politicians that support this terrorist organization.

 

[Ron Munson]

if the federal government chooses to spend federal relocation dollars on a particular refugee's settlement anywhere in the country, there is nothing the states can do to stop that. If barack obama wants to send 45 refugees to Clemson, he has the legal authority to do so.

This is true, but it is only going to further alienate voters.

Since Obama took office in 2008, the Democrat party has lost 60 seats in the House, 13 in the Senate, 12 Governorships and over 1,000 state legislature seats. Republicans control the House and the Senate by wide margins; they have 32 governorships to 17 by Democrats; Republicans control over 70% of State Senates, and 2/3rd of State Houses. All of that is a referendum on the president. Constantly going against the grain, is only going to do more damage against the Democrat party at the polls.

 

[Dbatz]

You should actually read up on the whole topic but I understand it is part of your narrow mindset. The United Nations High commission for Refugees not only do an intensive background check, interview that takes up to two years but they also track the place refugees. 76% of the Syrian regime are women and children ESCAPING a ravish country destroyed by war. So lets place blame directly where it fits - ISIS and the politicians that support this terrorist organization.

There is no paper trail on these immigrants, no way to screen them before they get here. This has already been admitted. We have to basically take them at their word. When they get here we have no effective way to track what they are doing.
Add to that they will be living on the tax dollars dime for the forseeable future. We have over 50 thousand homeless US veterans we are not taking care of, as well as untold numbers of people across this country who have fallen through the cracks. Until we can take care of our own, we shouldn't even consider allowing in ANY immigrants from anywhere.