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Only one word for it, Trump is a massive pussy

Did you just ask me for a dick pick you sick ****?

This isn't the gay hook up sites you frequent on the down low.
I just want to know if your penis size matches your wallet size.

I'm guessing you exaggerate both. Typical Yankee.
 
I was just proving that it is very possible for high-income people to pay a lower rate than teachers. And no, business owners should not be taxed more. We are the ones who took risks and started to businesses to employ w2 earners. I ate a shit sandwich for years after starting my first business while my w2 high earning friends all took trips together that I could not afford to go on.


I have said before that I think the $400K threshold should be higher, and I think it will have to be for President Harris to get any new tax laws passed.

It's possible, but it's the exception. I think we all know - whether we want to state it or not - that the democrat messaging around "billionaires not paying their share" or now "paying less than teachers and firefighters" and then trying to tax hardworking families making $400K is complete and total bullshit. It's meant to target relatively low IQ, mostly bitter people who want someone else to carry their water.

I earn well over the proposed threshold and I struggle to see how an increased rate anywhere in my income range can be justified. There's no possible way anyone can look at my return and think I'm not paying more than my fair share. The focus should be more on closing loopholes and write-offs, which is what enables your friend to avoid paying a normal rate.
 
It's possible, but it's the exception. I think we all know - whether we want to state it or not - that the democrat messaging around "billionaires not paying their share" or now "paying less than teachers and firefighters" and then trying to tax hardworking families making $400K is complete and total bullshit. It's meant to target relatively low IQ, mostly bitter people who want someone else to carry their water.

I earn well over the proposed threshold and I struggle to see how an increased rate anywhere in my income range can be justified. There's no possible way anyone can look at my return and think I'm not paying more than my fair share. The focus should be more on closing loopholes and write-offs, which is what enables your friend to avoid paying a normal rate.

I really like Harris's policy on tax breaks for people starting businesses. It is much more productive than Trump telling billionaires that he will give them more tax breaks if they donate to his campaign.

The loopholes you refer to are, more often than not, incentives for people to take risks and start businesses. If nobody wanted to start a business, there would be nobody to pay you the high wages that you complain about paying taxes on.

W2 earners are generally either afraid, ill-equipped, or simply choose not to get off their biscuit and risk it - and that is fine. But those who do should be rewarded within reason.
 
My wife is a teacher/ in education and I promise we pay substantially more than 9%.

I do agree that 400k is too low of a threshold. I would agree that closing loopholes should be the primary focus.

That said, the tax code is definitely challenging if you are dual income no kids like my family.
 
I really like Harris's policy on tax breaks for people starting businesses. It is much more productive than Trump telling billionaires that he will give them more tax breaks if they donate to his campaign.

The loopholes you refer to are, more often than not, incentives for people to take risks and start businesses. If nobody wanted to start a business, there would be nobody to pay you the high wages that you complain about paying taxes on.

W2 earners are generally either afraid, ill-equipped, or simply choose not to get off their biscuit and risk it - and that is fine. But those who do should be rewarded within reason.

I agree with the reward. I do. But don't tell me I'm not paying my fair share (which is what you are doing when you vote to raise my tax rates) and then use your buddy's example of extreme tax deductions to justify the ridiculous statements from the dem party about taxation.

Maybe many W2 earners. Pretty darn comfortable here though. I took the risk on a start-up and have been the primary commercial leader that has grown it 30X (so far) and will likely IPO soon at 50X of when I started. Then my stock options take over as my primary source of income... It's like starting and growing a business except with a big, beautiful W2 comp package along the way.
 
I agree with the reward. I do. But don't tell me I'm not paying my fair share (which is what you are doing when you vote to raise my tax rates) and then use your buddy's example of extreme tax deductions to justify the ridiculous statements from the dem party about taxation.

Maybe many W2 earners. Pretty darn comfortable here though. I took the risk on a start-up and have been the primary commercial leader that has grown it 30X (so far) and will likely IPO soon at 50X of when I started. Then my stock options take over as my primary source of income... It's like starting and growing a business except with a big, beautiful W2 comp package along the way.

Sorry, man, you are flat wrong here.

It is a fact that there are millionaires and billionaires that are paying lower effective tax rates than teachers. This has been confirmed by billionaires like Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet. Are they low IQ?

Biden did hire additional IRS agents to go after rich people not paying their taxes. So far they have netted an additional $1.3B. Have they been investigating you? Nope.

This statement is asinine:
But don't tell me I'm not paying my fair share (which is what you are doing when you vote to raise my tax rates)

I honestly don't give a shit what you pay in taxes, and there are many more issues to vote on than just this one.
 
Sorry, man, you are flat wrong here.

It is a fact that there are millionaires and billionaires that are paying lower effective tax rates than teachers. This has been confirmed by billionaires like Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet. Are they low IQ?

Biden did hire additional IRS agents to go after rich people not paying their taxes. So far they have netted an additional $1.3B. Have they been investigating you? Nope.

This statement is asinine:
But don't tell me I'm not paying my fair share (which is what you are doing when you vote to raise my tax rates)

I honestly don't give a shit what you pay in taxes, and there are many more issues to vote on than just this one.

This is exactly my point. You just cited billionaires. If that’s the problem, then why the fvck are we talking about tax increases on $400K or even $1M+?

Your party talks about billionaires to get the rubes all riled up about taxing them and then wants to stick it to families like mine. It’s completely dishonest.
 
Nice! You, me and chatgpt all agree that @scotchtiger is wrong.

My friend in Denver owns a $9MM roofing and construction company and pays a 7% effective tax rate last year despite earning well over $1MM. He introduced me to his CPA the other day. Thinking about making a switch.

So, to answer the original question, that is how high-income people can pay a lower tax rate than teachers.
Being in this scenario requires taking risks. Not to mention the owner being the last one paid.

A factor few like discussing.
 
Sorry, man, you are flat wrong here.

It is a fact that there are millionaires and billionaires that are paying lower effective tax rates than teachers. This has been confirmed by billionaires like Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet. Are they low IQ?

Biden did hire additional IRS agents to go after rich people not paying their taxes. So far they have netted an additional $1.3B. Have they been investigating you? Nope.

This statement is asinine:
But don't tell me I'm not paying my fair share (which is what you are doing when you vote to raise my tax rates)

I honestly don't give a shit what you pay in taxes, and there are many more issues to vote on than just this one.
We have NEVER gotten what a fair share amount issupposed to be. This is nothing more than a division of people. Bummer came up with this idiotic political term to divide us. He had plenty of chances to FIX the tax code, but it is easier to use it as a political tool. People like you eat this shit up.
I have yet to hear Buffet or Cuban ever brag about them paying THEIR FAIR SHARE, or whatever that amounts to in any of their rants about tax rates. If they feel that they sould pay more, THEN DO IT.It is a total Bullshit argument, because it is not against the law, a loophole is not illegal, and it is not evil. You don't like it, change the tax codes or write a bigger check. Also, quit taking any deductions.
 
He won’t debate again after Kamala crushed him the first time.

He pulls out of 60 Minutes and lies about why.

Kamala isn’t afraid to debate. Kamala isn’t afraid to be interviewed by 60 minutes.

Trump is a loser and a pussy. Full stop.

Trump is your daddy and will be your potus biatch.
 
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I just want to know if your penis size matches your wallet size.

I'm guessing you exaggerate both. Typical Yankee.

I would not be surprised if both the penis and money he claims are counterfeit

Not worth anything but fools the eye test
 
Are you inferring that @clemstigsco is a transgender poster with a vagina disguised as a penis or is it a penis disguised as a vagina
I am laughing so hard, it's hard to type...
To tell the truth, I have not thought of such a quandary. To that end, I would refer to @dpic73, as he has the balls to decipher.
 
Sorry, man, you are flat wrong here.

It is a fact that there are millionaires and billionaires that are paying lower effective tax rates than teachers. This has been confirmed by billionaires like Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet. Are they low IQ?

Biden did hire additional IRS agents to go after rich people not paying their taxes. So far they have netted an additional $1.3B. Have they been investigating you? Nope.

This statement is asinine:
But don't tell me I'm not paying my fair share (which is what you are doing when you vote to raise my tax rates)

I honestly don't give a shit what you pay in taxes, and there are many more issues to vote on than just this one.
Again, that dog don't hunt.

In 2024, you pay 0%, 15%, or 20% on qualified dividends, depending on your taxable income. For single filers, the 0% rate applies to income up to $44,625, 15% applies to income between $44,626 and $492,300, and 20% applies to income above $492,300. If you make as much money as you claim you do (which I have a hard time believing because you barely speak in complete sentences) then you're paying 20% which is more than a teacher will pay in 2024.

If your buddy running the roofing business is smart, he has an LLC or C-Corp in a tax friendly state like Nevada, pays a 0% effective tax rate and uses the IRS legal rules around write offs to his advantage while running his business to a low dollar cash flow position by end of fiscal year to ensure his tax liabilities are low. As it's a roofing business, this is easy to do as his overhead is typically covered on each roofing deal he does meaning he takes 50% of the job up front to cover the expensive supplies in his COGS (cost of goods sold before you google it) so he doesn't need to keep large cash balances in the business. This scenario makes your buddy smart, just like Trump told you in the Killary debate. He's using legal loopholes in the tax code, which is what all of the elite dem mega donors do and why dems nor repubs aren't ever going to fix this. Instead, they like to say stupid shit like "pay your fair share" which in reality means they are going to keep coming after the people that make $200k to $1m because it's the easiest place to take from without pissing off their donor pool.


Last point, if teachers and firefighters hired just a barely serviceable tax guy (would cost less than a few hundred bucks) they would probably get a good bit of that money back given where they sit in the tax bracket and that's without having to get creative like I do each year given my top bracket w-2 income. What makes it even less fair though is that the lowest tax brackets that barely pay any tax often get refunds putting their attributed tax revenue in a negative balance. That's right genius, the money that people like me pay into the system is being taken out at a deficit to give to those who barely pay any taxes at all.

To summarize this for you, the govt has a spending problem not a tax revenue problem as evidenced when Trump started collecting north of $4T in tax revenue, more than any president before him including that shitbag Obama. When you collect that amount from the people and still claim it's not enough, the country needs to fire everyone and start over until we find people who can manage a budget.

I've said this before, institute a flat tax rate of 20% with no write offs and just be done with it. Fire 95% of the IRS and realize the savings against annual burn rate.

You're welcome.
 
This is exactly my point. You just cited billionaires. If that’s the problem, then why the fvck are we talking about tax increases on $400K or even $1M+?

Your party talks about billionaires to get the rubes all riled up about taxing them and then wants to stick it to families like mine. It’s completely dishonest.
I just summarized this for him after a brief return to the board and will promptly disappear again but in case people need something a little more to show why libs don't fix it, see below. Trump told everyone on the national stage that he uses legal loopholes, the same ones that Killary and all of her donors use hence why we still have said loopholes.



 
It's sad how you libs are so indoctrinated. I wish there was some way to deprogram you but I'm afraid you are too far gone. Reality isn't your friend anymore.
But the election was definitely stolen though we have no actual evidence. Libs are brainwashed
 
He won’t debate again after Kamala crushed him the first time.

He pulls out of 60 Minutes and lies about why.

Kamala isn’t afraid to debate. Kamala isn’t afraid to be interviewed by 60 minutes.

Trump is a loser and a pussy. Full stop.

I just wanted to come back on here and tell you that you are fcking horrible at your job. I have to think that some of that $1b in campaign money spent by Kameltoe went to your shithole company and you failed her. If you're a liberal on this board, this fcking guy let you down and now you face a potential long term republican hold on the whole of Govt. You all should be angry, in fact you should ask for your donations back as they likely went to this fat fcking loser.

My god it feels so good to just show up after not posting for 8 months or so and just recognize that you suck at your job. I know everyone is saying the joy is gone, but I can assure you that it's not. I am feeling a ton of joy right now, as I type this.

20m votes just vanished this year......lolz. Dems cheated in 2020 and literally tried to ruin lives if anyone suggested the math didn't math. Don't let this fat fcking loser off the hook. He was one of those people.

 
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I just wanted to come back on here and tell you that you are fcking horrible at your job. I have to think that some of that $1b in campaign money spent by Kameltoe went to your shithole company and you failed her. If you're a liberal on this board, this fcking guy let you down and now you face a potential long term republican hold on the whole of Govt. You all should be angry, in fact you should ask for your donations back as they likely went to this fat fcking loser.

My god it feels so good to just show up after not posting for 8 months or so and just recognize that you suck at your job. I know everyone is saying the joy is gone, but I can assure you that it's not. I am feeling a ton of joy right now, as I type this.

20m votes just vanished this year......lolz. Dems cheated in 2020 and literally tried to ruin lives if anyone suggested the math didn't math. Don't let this fat fcking loser off the hook. He was one of those people.

Welcome back!
 
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