These scenarios are the reason people own guns. Not handguns, but battle rifles. When ignorance forms in masses, battle rifles are your only protection. Ok, and shotguns. Nothing but animals going wild.
OT: Rioting in St Louis
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Why not just get the hell out of dodge like any sane person? If it gets to that point your are screwed anyway. No gun is going to help you. Sure you might take out a few, but I mean are you really talking about taking on a whole mass of people with a firearm.
Too many Rambo movies for you bud.
funny you should mention getting out of Dodge seeing as no shot was fired in the Dodge City War due to the overwhelming presence of big ass guns.
There is actually footage of a man on the roof of his house during the LA riots with an AR successfully keeping the rioters away.
Weird.
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Weird.
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man the blacks on the bus are pissed off at the police
they are saying they want to kill every last one of them
they think thats the only way to get them off their backs
these guys are freaking pissed
wonder why when a white guy does something all white people dont get out and riiot
they are saying they want to kill every last one of them
they think thats the only way to get them off their backs
these guys are freaking pissed
wonder why when a white guy does something all white people dont get out and riiot
Once again, you brought nothing to the conversation except to belittle someone. You are the worst poster by far. You are an arrogant prick that constantly gets a kick out of trying to demean others on a daily basis.
I hope your precious daughter doesn't become a stuck up bitch as you are a prick. I wish you all the worst life possible.
So in other news......
I hope your precious daughter doesn't become a stuck up bitch as you are a prick. I wish you all the worst life possible.
So in other news......
Apparently most of these rioters are not even residents. They have been bussed in by the community organizers.. To the conscientious objectors, innocent people have right to protect their property. The sad thing is, many of the looted businesses were owned by AfricanAmericans.
Actually, eventually Dodge City required that you check your guns at the city limits. Anyone carrying a visible gun was to be shot on sight by a law officer. Dodge City had some of strictest gun control laws of the time. Just saying.
Another post calling Blacks animals. Preciate the compliment.
The sad part out of all of the post not one mention of the unarmed 18 year old who lost his life. I wonder how long this post stays up today. I have a 3 hour drive to Montgomery and I will check back to see the postitive progress.
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The sad part out of all of the post not one mention of the unarmed 18 year old who lost his life. I wonder how long this post stays up today. I have a 3 hour drive to Montgomery and I will check back to see the postitive progress.
XCUDB
Re: Another post calling Blacks animals. Preciate the compliment.
I'm not defending the original poster much (in my opinion) but his statement suggested that weapons were necessary to defend against 'ignorant masses.' There is no suggestion that I see in his original post that ignorant masses HAVE to be blacks. They could be hispanics or whites or ruskies for that matter. Maybe blacks are rioting in this case but other groups could be responsible in other instances.
I'm not defending the original poster much (in my opinion) but his statement suggested that weapons were necessary to defend against 'ignorant masses.' There is no suggestion that I see in his original post that ignorant masses HAVE to be blacks. They could be hispanics or whites or ruskies for that matter. Maybe blacks are rioting in this case but other groups could be responsible in other instances.
Re: Another post calling Blacks animals. Preciate the compliment.
After re-reading the OPs post and knowing nothing of these riots (don't know how I missed this though) if they were white would it make a difference calling them animals? People acting in a manner of a wild animal...what SHOULD we call this behavior?
And I agree with his premise of gun ownership, though.
Oh, and yet another thoughtful post by Iceheart. SMH
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After re-reading the OPs post and knowing nothing of these riots (don't know how I missed this though) if they were white would it make a difference calling them animals? People acting in a manner of a wild animal...what SHOULD we call this behavior?
And I agree with his premise of gun ownership, though.
Oh, and yet another thoughtful post by Iceheart. SMH
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Please let this post go
All homo sapiens are animals and the human version of it
Rioting does not solve problems or make it better
Let the legal system handcle this matter.
All homo sapiens are animals and the human version of it
Rioting does not solve problems or make it better
Let the legal system handcle this matter.
Re: Another post calling Blacks animals. Preciate the compliment.
You are right. It was either a horrible mistake or we have an officer that has deeper problems. Either way, justice should be served. However, this is being used politically by the community organizers to promote anarchy. The local news people; radio people are saying that most of the rioters are being brought in to incite unrest. This community is 70% AfricanAmerican and is generally a tight knit, everyone gets along, type of place.
Law Enforcement Officers should wear Go-Pro style cameras.
Rialto, CA PD has been using cameras since February of 2012 and complaints against the PD are down 88% and use of force fell by 60%. Typically complaints are just use of language and unprofessional demeanor, but officers would also think twice before using force that could injure or kill.
Rialto, CA PD has been using cameras since February of 2012 and complaints against the PD are down 88% and use of force fell by 60%. Typically complaints are just use of language and unprofessional demeanor, but officers would also think twice before using force that could injure or kill.
According to reports the 18 year old was trying to arm himself...................with the officers own weapon. But I agree, lets let this play out before judgement. Still, looting is not the way to go and you need a long time in jail if caught.
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Though, I am not saying this to justify the rioting, just that letting the legal system handle it doesn't always seem to go well in these instances.
Because that always works in these matters.
Though, I am not saying this to justify the rioting, just that letting the legal system handle it doesn't always seem to go well in these instances.
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With the militarization of our police force, I'm sure they could "scape" up enough money to put a camera on all officers. That's one expense I'd fully support!
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With the militarization of our police force, I'm sure they could "scape" up enough money to put a camera on all officers. That's one expense I'd fully support!
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I know, like when Joe Paterno was fired for covering up his DC sexual harassment of underage kids. Glad they didn't riot then...
I wouldn't be surprised if the police officer was in the wrong here. Black men are very often stereotyped with innocent people at times being the victim of police brutality, and that is a fact. However, another fact is that the people looting the businesses and bringing attention to their cause in manners such as this only serves to perpetuate many of the stereotypes that people outside the black community have about their race. It's a vicious cycle.
If cops were required to wear Go Pro's that recorded and uploaded files to a central server, then the TRUTH would be known and lies and hyperbolic versions would not win out causing overreaction.
There are multiple witnesses that claim the cop shot the kid while his hands were in the air and then once again while he had apprehended him and he was in the cops car. Ballistics have already pulled a bullet from inside the cops car.
St. Louis is a dump. These people live in a complete dump and they know it, and now they "know" that cops are killing them with impunity. They aren't reacting well to that information. They have a full mob mentality going on. They potentially are the victim of a lot of cop abuse and maybe murder.
Again, there are so many hypotheticals, but the fact is a cop potentially murdered someone and the people of that community are reacting in a horrible way. In my opinion it doesn't excuse the mobs behavior.
This type of thing could always be avoided if cops wore recording equipment that could not be tampered with. The truth would be available for everyone.
There are multiple witnesses that claim the cop shot the kid while his hands were in the air and then once again while he had apprehended him and he was in the cops car. Ballistics have already pulled a bullet from inside the cops car.
St. Louis is a dump. These people live in a complete dump and they know it, and now they "know" that cops are killing them with impunity. They aren't reacting well to that information. They have a full mob mentality going on. They potentially are the victim of a lot of cop abuse and maybe murder.
Again, there are so many hypotheticals, but the fact is a cop potentially murdered someone and the people of that community are reacting in a horrible way. In my opinion it doesn't excuse the mobs behavior.
This type of thing could always be avoided if cops wore recording equipment that could not be tampered with. The truth would be available for everyone.
This^
Its beyond time for this to happen. The technology is there, the cameras are light-weight enough, small enough, and the cost point is reasonable. Only thing standing in the way? Unions.......
Now, with all that said ... I find a sick irony in a mass of people who are protesting the death of a alleged innocent teen, by committing felony assault, battery, and theft.
Also with that said .... I agree with the OP. Im a bring proponent of the Castle Doctrine, Im a little "meh" on stand your ground though.
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I'm fairly certain that the legal system "works" in every single situation. Is it perfect? Of course not. Do we always get the verdict we want? Well that depends on which side you're on. And that's the whole point of the legal system. Take the "sides" out of it. Make a ruling based on nothing but proven facts. Again, it's not perfect, but until everyone learns how to act civilized and not like animals (and I'm not singling out anyone XCUDB, when I say everyone I mean everyone: black, white, yellow, red, Christian, Muslim, Jew, etc, etc), the US legal system is the best system in the world.
What a terrible way to get your point across. Steeling, vandalizing, and rioting in your own neighborhood? What the heck does any of that have to do with the young man being shot. Many of the businesses they looted and destroyed were owned by African Americans.
There is no way on earth anyone is going to respect a group of neanderthals that does this. I watched several interviews where they try actually try and justify what happened. Are you kidding me? They didn't do it to stand up for what they believe in, they did it because they are worthless pieces of crap that wanted free stuff. I would say the same if it were any race.
News flash, and this is not meant to be racist, but if blacks are trying to rid themselves of stereotypes, this type of behavior does the exact opposite. They should be ashamed. Sure they may have gotten a "point" across, but it was the wrong point and probably set them back even more in the eyes of other races. The media will spin it as justified but make no mistake, they are being politically correct. 99% of other races sees nothing but a bunch of idiots robbing and steeling. They can try and justify it, but not one person outside of the African American race actually believes it is. It is not justified. It is stupid.
The NAACP needs to do as much coaching and teaching to their own race as they do to other races about acceptance. This a pretty good opportunity for them to publicly oppose this behavior in their communities. No matter what happens you cannot act this way. Because stereotypes do exist, when something like this happens, it makes it worse and getting the point across you were trying to prove in the first place is harder. It becomes impossible because now no one respects your position if that is how you act.
Reality......
There is no way on earth anyone is going to respect a group of neanderthals that does this. I watched several interviews where they try actually try and justify what happened. Are you kidding me? They didn't do it to stand up for what they believe in, they did it because they are worthless pieces of crap that wanted free stuff. I would say the same if it were any race.
News flash, and this is not meant to be racist, but if blacks are trying to rid themselves of stereotypes, this type of behavior does the exact opposite. They should be ashamed. Sure they may have gotten a "point" across, but it was the wrong point and probably set them back even more in the eyes of other races. The media will spin it as justified but make no mistake, they are being politically correct. 99% of other races sees nothing but a bunch of idiots robbing and steeling. They can try and justify it, but not one person outside of the African American race actually believes it is. It is not justified. It is stupid.
The NAACP needs to do as much coaching and teaching to their own race as they do to other races about acceptance. This a pretty good opportunity for them to publicly oppose this behavior in their communities. No matter what happens you cannot act this way. Because stereotypes do exist, when something like this happens, it makes it worse and getting the point across you were trying to prove in the first place is harder. It becomes impossible because now no one respects your position if that is how you act.
Reality......
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Witnesses not being interviewed by the cops already is not the system working. The fact the man that was walking with Brown has not been interviewed by law enforcement is not the system working. These accounts are coming from interviews done by reporters not the legal system.
It only works in "every single situation" if in every single situation it is handled in the way it is intended to be handled. I am certain to state that not "every single situation" is handled in the right way. The verdict doesn't matter. You are right that proven facts and nonbias rulings are what makes our system great, the best in the world. But if the process to get those are not handled as it is intended then the system doesn't work in "every single situation."
Witnesses not being interviewed by the cops already is not the system working. The fact the man that was walking with Brown has not been interviewed by law enforcement is not the system working. These accounts are coming from interviews done by reporters not the legal system.
What else does that community know other than generations of behavioral adaption to reliance on socialistic liberal goverance?
Hashbrown kill whitey
Hashbrown kill whitey
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Not really, eye witness testimony is some of the worst evidence available, if not the worst. It's just not very accurate at all.
My post has nothing to do with race. If you associate "ignorant masses" as a racial comment, that is on you.Originally posted by Jangy Wangy Puffpo:
Why not just say, "I'm a rabid bigot and now would be a great time for me to do some ethnic cleansing."
In LA during the Rodney King Riots
dozens of people died. White, Latino, Black... they were burned to death, shot stabbed... some were shot point blank in the face 15 year old Eddie Travers, was riddled with bullets as he rode with his brother to a video store, or 36 year old Frank Lopez whose head was split open as he was run over by a truck. Neither killer was ever caught.
I bring the LA riots up because
1) It was video taped (and evidence shows the officers knew about it) ... yes I know the "outrage" was in the verdict not necessarily the actions of the officers.
2) Violence doesn't support condemnation of the act.
If there was an egregious action by law enforcement in St. Louis, then the actions in the riots only tend to support further egregious actions.
3) All races suffer in riots.
You cannot equate the shooting of a young man with feigned outrage in the form of riots. To me they are equally heinous.
http://spreadsheets.latimes.com/la-riots-deaths/
dozens of people died. White, Latino, Black... they were burned to death, shot stabbed... some were shot point blank in the face 15 year old Eddie Travers, was riddled with bullets as he rode with his brother to a video store, or 36 year old Frank Lopez whose head was split open as he was run over by a truck. Neither killer was ever caught.
I bring the LA riots up because
1) It was video taped (and evidence shows the officers knew about it) ... yes I know the "outrage" was in the verdict not necessarily the actions of the officers.
2) Violence doesn't support condemnation of the act.
If there was an egregious action by law enforcement in St. Louis, then the actions in the riots only tend to support further egregious actions.
3) All races suffer in riots.
You cannot equate the shooting of a young man with feigned outrage in the form of riots. To me they are equally heinous.
http://spreadsheets.latimes.com/la-riots-deaths/
I still don't understand why they aren't protesting in Chicago. There's multiple blacks killed a day, everyday.
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