OT: trump verdict reached nm

[yoshi121374]

I’ll never understand why killing a baby is the right thing to do

How about if you wife was going to die, and the baby was not going to live or had monumental health complications?

You really gonna choose that life? You are gonna tell your wife that she has to die? You want to be a single widower with a severely handicapped baby who will destroy your life financially, if they even live. If you decide you are then that's your right.

It's not your right to tell someone else that they have to do that.

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

I’ll never understand why killing a baby is the right thing to do

I agree. I can’t understand anyone killing a baby. But I do understand someone terminating a fetus.

 

[dpic73]

The entire country has a dog in this fight. Weaponizing the judicial system. They can’t beat Trump so they will sink to corruption and unscrupulous acts to attempt to interfere with the election. It is a disgrace.

The entire country should be scared to death. If they can do this to Trump…what can they do to the rest of us? It’s scary. Trump is going to win big in November. The American people will deliver the final verdict November 5.

 

[okclem]

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I've known for virtually my entire life that I could be prosecuted for any crimes I commit. Apparently magas are just now coming to this realization?

 

[yoshi121374]

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If I ever pay off a porn star with business funds by falsifying business records I deserve to be prosecuted for idiocy and frankly being trash.

Can we point out again that MAGAs are supporting and accepting that he cheated on his wife with a porn star. Let that sink on for a second.

 

[AugTig]

Fixed it for you.

Question - when do we assign a social security number? Would you argue that needs to happen at conception?

This may be the most idiotic post ever from you. Good grief.

 

[Whenry]

How about if you wife was going to die, and the baby was not going to live or had monumental health complications?

You really gonna choose that life? You are gonna tell your wife that she has to die? You want to be a single widower with a severely handicapped baby who will destroy your life financially, if they even live. If you decide you are then that's your right.

It's not your right to tell someone else that they have to do that.

The scenario you describe is extremely rare. Almost never. And when the woman’s life is truly endangered, an emergency c-section delivery would most likely save the baby and the mother. But with abortion, a baby dies every time. Approximately a million babies are killed every year in America by abortion. Only a minuscule percent is the mother’s life truly in danger. Abortion is being used as birth control. People who oppose abortion are very concerned about women’s health. There’s other ways to help a pregnant woman without killing her baby.

 

[Dadar]

If I ever pay off a porn star with business funds by falsifying business records I deserve to be prosecuted for idiocy and frankly being trash.

Can we point out again that MAGAs are supporting and accepting that he cheated on his wife with a porn star. Let that sink on for a second.

And supposedly without condum

 

[yoshi121374]

The scenario you describe is extremely rare. Almost never. And when the woman’s life is truly endangered, an emergency c-section delivery would most likely save the baby and the mother. But with abortion, a baby dies every time. Approximately a million babies are killed every year in America by abortion. Only a minuscule percent is the mother’s life truly in danger. Abortion is being used as birth control. People who oppose abortion are very concerned about women’s health. There’s other ways to help a pregnant woman without killing her baby.

But it does happen. And there have been recent examples where women had to leave the state they live in due to the laws that have been enacted that outlaw these vital life saving procedures.

This is real and is really happening.

 

[Whenry]

I agree. I can’t understand anyone killing a baby. But I do understand someone terminating a fetus.

What’s a fetus ?

 

[nytigerfan]

If I ever pay off a porn star with business funds by falsifying business records I deserve to be prosecuted for idiocy and frankly being trash.

Can we point out again that MAGAs are supporting and accepting that he cheated on his wife with a porn star. Let that sink on for a second.

Stormy did say the sex was very, very, very brief.

So, you could argue that he barely cheated on his wife with a porn star, and then barely committed multiple crimes and election fraud to hide it.

Of course, when he barely loses to Biden again he will claim he actually won in a landslide.

 

[Whenry]

But it does happen. And there have been recent examples where women had to leave the state they live in due to the laws that have been enacted that outlaw these vital life saving procedures.

This is real and is really happening.

Why not just have a c- section delivery and everyone lives ?

 

[yoshi121374]

Why not just have a c- section delivery and everyone lives ?

That's not always an option. Dude, I get that you don't like Abortion, nobody likes abortion, but to act like there aren't times when it is necessary is just not true.

Why can't a women work with her Doctor to decide what care she needs? Who the hell are you or me to tell her what she can or can't do with her body?

 

[okclem]

The party of accountability says everyone commits crimes so, ya know...

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

Why not just have a c- section delivery and everyone lives ?

The ignorance on this board never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Whenry]

I agree. I can’t understand anyone killing a baby. But I do understand someone terminating a fetus.

A fetus is a euphemistic and dehumanizing term for an unborn child. Consider the following facts:
1. The scientific definition of life is an organism with an active metabolism. Science confirms that active metabolism begins at conception.
2. Babies are genetically complete at conception.
3. A baby’s sex is determined at conception.
4. A baby in the mother’s womb has a heartbeat that can be detected 17 days after conception.
5. A baby in his mother’s womb has detectable neuro activity at 42 days after conception.
6. Unborn babies have discernible fingerprints at 14 weeks.
7. Medical science has discovered that un born babies can feel pain at 9 weeks. Can you imagine how bad it would hurt to have your limbs broken off while a doctor is pulling you apart during an abortion ?

Have you ever seen an ultrasound on a pregnant woman ?

I guess calling these unborn babies fetuses makes you feel better. Your conscience ain’t no joke is it ?

 

[okclem]

Why not just have a c- section delivery and everyone lives ?

The fact that you think your beliefs should dictate any of that is just astounding to me. Unmitigated audacity

 

[Whenry]

The ignorance on this board never ceases to amaze me.

Explain why that wouldn’t work. Except you can’t

 

[Whenry]

The fact that you think your beliefs should dictate any of that is just astounding to me. Unmitigated audacity

Because I believe people shouldn’t murder babies ? That’s audacious to you ?

 

[other1]

Yes… but it’s scary how corrupt our justice system is.

Aileen Cannon

 

[yoshi121374]

Because I believe people shouldn’t murder babies ? That’s audacious to you ?

That you'd kill an adult women to save a mass of cells that isn't going to live. That's a little wild.

 

[BigPapaWhit]

Speaking of weaponizing the legal system...In some states it has been decided what is necessary and proper care by elected officials. Why are medical doctors not expert enough to determine the viability of a fetus or the life of the mother? Interesting that an unborn human has more rights than living humans. Some in society are all for protecting the sanctity of life before it exits the womb. However, once the child is born, the rule is survival of the fittest. There is a class of people that could argue that the judicial system has been weaponized long before 30 May. They have been incarcerated for life or pending execution for crimes they may or may not have committed. Capital Punishment must be wrong. For two simple reasons based on this thread...All life is sacred and the legal system is rigged.

 

[okclem]

Because I believe people shouldn’t murder babies ? That’s audacious to you ?

No

 

[Dadar]

Stormy did say the sex was very, very, very brief.

So, you could argue that he barely cheated on his wife with a porn star, and then barely committed multiple cri

Explain why that wouldn’t work. Except you can’t

To me, these are questions that can not be objectively answered other than respecting both views

 

[Whenry]

That's not always an option. Dude, I get that you don't like Abortion, nobody likes abortion, but to act like there aren't times when it is necessary is just not true.

Why can't a women work with her Doctor to decide what care she needs? Who the hell are you or me to tell her what she can or can't do with her body?

One of the points I’m trying to make is that the occasion when an abortion would actually save a woman’s life is extremely rare. Extremely rare. But every time an abortion occurs a baby dies. Every time. Man, since 1973 over 50 million babies have been slain in America. How many of those saved a woman’s life ? Not many at all would be my guess. Those babies didn’t die to save a woman’s life. They died because they weren’t wanted. Plain and simple. And you know I’m right. That’s the kind of country we’re living in. It’s sad to me.

 

[yoshi121374]

One of the points I’m trying to make is that the occasion when an abortion would actually save a woman’s life is extremely rare. Extremely rare. But every time an abortion occurs a baby dies. Every time. Man, since 1973 over 50 million babies have been slain in America. How many of those saved a woman’s life ? Not many at all would be my guess. Those babies didn’t die to save a woman’s life. They died because they weren’t wanted. Plain and simple. And you know I’m right. That’s the kind of country we’re living in. It’s sad to me.

It is sad. I'm sure that you have adopted many children to help with this terrible epidemic right?

 

[Whenry]

That you'd kill an adult women to save a mass of cells that isn't going to live. That's a little wild.

Mass of cells ? Go back and read post # 416. You can’t bring yourself say those are babies can you ? Of course you can’t. But that doesn’t change the fact that they are. And besides, abortions, rarely, if ever, save women , but they always kill babies.

 

[okclem]

Why is the thread about the Trump verdict now an abortion debate?

 

[yoshi121374]

Mass of cells ? Go back and read post # 416. You can’t bring yourself say those are babies can you ? Of course you can’t. But that doesn’t change the fact that they are. And besides, abortions, rarely, if ever, save women , but they always kill babies.

So how many children have you adopted?

I have first hand knowledge of the exact type of situation I'm describing. A women had a history of risky pregnancies. She unintentionally got pregnant while on birth control. Her Doctor strongly suggested that she gets an abortion to save her life, since the previous pregnancy had ended in miscarriage and almost killed the mother, and her first pregnancy was very dangerous and she was hospitalized for weeks post delivery and the child had an extremely challenging birth with some TBI side effects.. In this instance the wife and her husband decided that she would have an abortion to avoid the risk to her life.

Her husband is a current Southern Baptist Preacher and certainly doesn't support abortion, he also didn't want his wife to die and leave their first child motherless.

Would you force her to then carry this child until term to be able to have a C-Section? She had a D &C and is fine and currently being a wife,mother, and head of the WMU.

They are rare, but they do happen. Nobody likes abortion, but you are letting your emotional feelings impact other people's lives. Their decision has nothing to do with you.

 

[Dadar]

It is 5 o'clock somewhere 😊

 

[nytigerfan]

Why is the thread about the Trump verdict now an abortion debate?

Because evangelicals use abortion as justification to vote for a convicted felon like trump.

They also can convince themselves that late term abortions are common and cells are babies within six weeks. Oh and also that mothers rarely die from complications, and women are never impregnated by their rapists.

 

[Whenry]

No

Well, that’s encouraging

 

[Whenry]

Because evangelicals use abortion as justification to vote for a convicted felon like trump.

They also can convince themselves that late term abortions are common and cells are babies within six weeks. Oh and also that mothers rarely die from complications, and women are never impregnated by their rapists.

I know y’all will be relieved to know that I’ve got to work, so, I’m about done. However, let me respond to the above.

I’d bet my bottom dollar that late term abortions are more common than a woman’s life being in danger in such a way that only having an abortion would save her.
Science positively proves that life begins at conception. Mass of cells language is nothing but leftest mythical rhetoric. Follow the science.
I abhor rapists and think they should be punished severely. My heart bleeds for women who have suffered such a tragedy. Thankfully, it’s a very small percentage of abortions that is due to rape or incest. Killing the innocent baby is not going to un-do those tragedies. It’s just going to pile another tragedy on top of a tragedy.

I’ve said my piece, gotta go. Iron sharpens iron. I ain’t mad at you fellas. Have a good afternoon.

 

[dpic73]

 

[Dadar]

Hope all Tiger fans have a good weekend

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

A fetus is a euphemistic and dehumanizing term for an unborn child. Consider the following facts:
1. The scientific definition of life is an organism with an active metabolism. Science confirms that active metabolism begins at conception.
2. Babies are genetically complete at conception.
3. A baby’s sex is determined at conception.
4. A baby in the mother’s womb has a heartbeat that can be detected 17 days after conception.
5. A baby in his mother’s womb has detectable neuro activity at 42 days after conception.
6. Unborn babies have discernible fingerprints at 14 weeks.
7. Medical science has discovered that un born babies can feel pain at 9 weeks. Can you imagine how bad it would hurt to have your limbs broken off while a doctor is pulling you apart during an abortion ?

Have you ever seen an ultrasound on a pregnant woman ?

I guess calling these unborn babies fetuses makes you feel better. Your conscience ain’t no joke is it ?

Fetus is a scientific term. Nothing dehumanizing about that. I guess caring about a fetus more than a grown woman makes you feel better.

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

Explain why that wouldn’t work. Except you can’t

I never said a c section won’t work. It will also have the same effect on a dead fetus - which is none. But if you want to force a woman to give birth to a dead fetus then that is your opinion. The majority of people, and especially women, will disagree with you.

 

[yoshi121374]

I know y’all will be relieved to know that I’ve got to work, so, I’m about done. However, let me respond to the above.

I’d bet my bottom dollar that late term abortions are more common than a woman’s life being in danger in such a way that only having an abortion would save her.
Science positively proves that life begins at conception. Mass of cells language is nothing but leftest mythical rhetoric. Follow the science.
I abhor rapists and think they should be punished severely. My heart bleeds for women who have suffered such a tragedy. Thankfully, it’s a very small percentage of abortions that is due to rape or incest. Killing the innocent baby is not going to un-do those tragedies. It’s just going to pile another tragedy on top of a tragedy.

I’ve said my piece, gotta go. Iron sharpens iron. I ain’t mad at you fellas. Have a good afternoon.

Agree to disagree, but appreciate the debate. Have a good evening and weekend.

 

[Whenry]

Fetus is a scientific term. Nothing dehumanizing about that. I guess caring about a fetus more than a grown woman makes you feel better.

Yes, I concede the fact fetus is a scientific term, but it’s a scientific synonym for a baby. It’s euphemistic language for baby in the mother’s womb. It sounds less graphic to say terminate a fetus than to say kill a baby. But make no mistake about it…it’s a baby.
And these women most often are not aborting their babies to save their lives, the overwhelming majority of the time it’s because they don’t want the baby. You know this is true. You just won’t admit it.

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

Yes, I concede the fact fetus is a scientific term, but it’s a scientific synonym for a baby. It’s euphemistic language for baby in the mother’s womb. It sounds less graphic to say terminate a fetus than to say kill a baby. But make no mistake about it…it’s a baby.
And these women most often are not aborting their babies to save their lives, the overwhelming majority of the time it’s because they don’t want the baby. You know this is true. You just won’t admit it.

lol, you don’t get to change facts because you don’t like them. It’s not a synonym, fetus and baby are two totally different terms. One is before birth and the other is after.