RFK Would Have Won An Open Democratic Primary

[fatpiggy]

Remove the corrupted DNC and RFK wins a contested democratic primary. Change my mind


0% chance even the Democrats would have voted for Communist policies. They are not commmunists. They just had one selected for them.

 

[fatpiggy]

NOW: RFK Jr. brilliantly exposes how the Democrat Party SUBVERTED democracy under the guise of "saving" it.• “At the voting booth, the DNC waged continual legal warfare against both President Trump and myself.”• "It ran a sham primary that was rigged to prevent any serious challenge to President Biden."• ”Then, when a predictably bungled debate performance precipitated the palace coup against President Biden, the same shadowy DNC operatives appointed his successor, also without an election.”

 

[fatpiggy]

Do we really think this would have won an open primary? Lolololoollllollo

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Remove the corrupted DNC and RFK wins a contested democratic primary. Change my mind


0% chance even the Democrats would have voted for Communist policies. They are not commmunists. They just had one selected for them.

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There is literally nothing anyone could do to change your mind.

I will just say I don’t know a single person that likes RFKJr that isn’t on this board and MAGA.

 

[tigr77]

Don’t know if he would have won or not but I know 4-5 months ago this same group was trying to figure out a way to replace her on the ticket. This was before the debate and they thought Joe was good to go. They wanted a stronger VP in place in case Joe had to be replaced.
He flopped and they had to keep her in order to preserve all the donations made to Joe’s reelection campaign.

 

[fatpiggy]

Don’t know if he would have won or not but I know 4-5 months ago this same group was trying to figure out a way to replace her on the ticket. This was before the debate and they thought Joe was good to go. They wanted a stronger VP in place in case Joe had to be replaced.
He flopped and they had to keep her in order to preserve all the donations made to Joe’s reelection campaign.

Exactly.

They were calling for her replacement because she was so disliked.

If they had even one debate and Kamala let the world know she was a communist supporting price controls, RFK would have run away with the nomination.

 

[scotchtiger]

I don’t think RFKjr would have won, but I also don’t think Kamala would have won.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I don’t think RFKjr would have won, but I also don’t think Kamala would have won.

This is where I land, though I will say I think Kamala would've had a lot better chance than RFKJr. They would both likely had been low.

 

[dpic73]

I don’t think RFKjr would have won, but I also don’t think Kamala would have won.

There was a poll taken among Democrats before she joined the race and she was the number one choice to step in if Joe dropped out. I wouldn't have voted her first then but she has impressed the hell out of me since and I'm not at all unhappy about it now. She has very high favorables among Dems today so it's amusing to see Republicans so upset about our candidate.

PS- anybody who thinks RFK Jr. would have been a contender in a Democratic primary have lost their damn minds. We don't elevate nutjob , anti-vax, conspiracy theorists. That's a Republican thing...

Democrats Give Harris Nearly Unanimous Positive Ratings

Kamala Harris is enjoying increases in her favorable and job approval ratings, particularly among Democrats.

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[okclem]

Kamala will do such a good job as president that Americans might decide to make her the queen of North America. People are saying that, with regard to the future.

 

[dpic73]

Kamala will do such a good job as president that Americans might decide to make her the queen of North America. People are saying that, with regard to throw future.

Even Russians come up to me and say "Sir, we'd like Kamala to lead our country too" Believe me

 

[okclem]

Even Russians come up to me and say "Sir, we'd like Kamala to lead our country too" Believe me

With tears in their eyes

 

[dpic73]

Kennedy is using the f out of Trump and he's blind to the consequences. These people are purely transactional and are only in it together to elevate their own profiles.

 

[okclem]

Kennedy is using the f out of Trump and he's blind to the consequences. These people are purely transactional and are only in it together to elevate their own profiles.

🤣🤣 why didn't they scrub these?

 

[dpic73]

🤣🤣 why didn't they scrub these?

 

[dpic73]

 

[kgwillison]

I don’t think RFKjr would have won, but I also don’t think Kamala would have won.

I disagree. Black women are the most important demographic in Democratic voting. She had a lock on those voters. There’s a reason no one ran against her.

 

[scotchtiger]

I disagree. Black women are the most important demographic in Democratic voting. She had a lock on those voters. There’s a reason no one ran against her.

7% of the voting age population is the most important demographic in Democrat voting?

Why didn’t that group help her in 2020?

 

[Dungeon09]

Not even October and Slowball is already coping.

 

[kgwillison]

7% of the voting age population is the most important demographic in Democrat voting?

Why didn’t that group help her in 2020?

They were behind Biden. Biden wrapped up the nomination by winning the SC primary and Black voters made all of the difference. Biden had a long, close connection to Black voters going back 40 years.

 

[firegiver]

He's deeply unpopular. But Elon and roegan like him so he must be mainstream.

 

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[fatpiggy]

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[fatpiggy]

 

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[fatpiggy]

I disagree with many of you.

I think RFK wins an open primary.
1) He is a moderate
2) The Name
3) Skilled Litigator

Momentum switches quickly in open primaries. Look at the Republican primary from 2016 when Trump came to power. If I recall, a Bush was in the primary and heavily favored, but it was Trumps ideas that people liked.

I think people would prefer Kennedy over Bidenomjcs. Bidenomics was so bad they made Joe quit.

I think RFK wins an open Democratic primary. But we will never know because Kamala was selected by the democratic elite.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I disagree with many of you.

I think RFK wins an open primary.
1) He is a moderate
2) The Name
3) Skilled Litigator

Momentum switches quickly in open primaries. Look at the Republican primary from 2016 when Trump came to power. If I recall, a Bush was in the primary and heavily favored, but it was Trumps ideas that people liked.

I think people would prefer Kennedy over Bidenomjcs. Bidenomics was so bad they made Joe quit.

I think RFK wins an open Democratic primary. But we will never know because Kamala was selected by the democratic elite.

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Do you have a record or source for any actual Democratic support?

 

[Dmk]

I disagree with many of you.

I think RFK wins an open primary.
1) He is a moderate
2) The Name
3) Skilled Litigator

Momentum switches quickly in open primaries. Look at the Republican primary from 2016 when Trump came to power. If I recall, a Bush was in the primary and heavily favored, but it was Trumps ideas that people liked.

I think people would prefer Kennedy over Bidenomjcs. Bidenomics was so bad they made Joe quit.

I think RFK wins an open Democratic primary. But we will never know because Kamala was selected by the democratic elite.

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I hear ya … but #1 is why he wouldn’t have won an open primary. He’s considered a moderate, and this is Obama’s Dem party and it has moved WAY too far to the left for a moderate to win their nomination now. (A young Bill Clinton couldn’t win their nomination now) Kamala may not have won either but we will never know.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I hear ya … but #1 is why he wouldn’t have won an open primary. He’s considered a moderate, and this is Obama’s Dem party and it has moved WAY too far to the left for a moderate to win their nomination now. (A young Bill Clinton couldn’t win their nomination now) Kamala may not have won either but we will never know.

Literally the last time there was a primary the most Moderate candidate won.

 

[fatpiggy]

I hear ya … but #1 is why he wouldn’t have won an open primary. He’s considered a moderate, and this is Obama’s Dem party and it has moved WAY too far to the left for a moderate to win their nomination now. (A young Bill Clinton couldn’t win their nomination now) Kamala may not have won either but we will never know.

Fair points and I hear ya.

But, my argument is, the reason the Dem party has moved left is because Obama has had a stranglehold on the direction of the party. The people have had no say.

Biden was a puppet of Obama.

Obama, Harris, and other Democratic elite hid Bidens mental decline to maintain their grip on power and preventing the people from re-directing the party to the center with an open primary.

It is not a natural lurch to the far left, it’s a power grab.

This is communism.

 

[fatpiggy]

Remember, there is no such thing as sudden onset dementia. They all knew. They all deprived the rights of “81 million - 4000” of democrats the opportunity to redirect the party towards the center.

You will get what the regime gives you and you will like it!

 

[fatpiggy]

Do you have a record or source for any actual Democratic support?

What is your source for support of Kamala? She won the primary? She finished in last place in the 2020 primary? She stopped the flow of illegal immigrants as Border Czar? She is a Black Woman?

 

[UrHuckleberry]

What is your source for support of Kamala? She won the primary? She finished in last place in the 2020 primary? She stopped the flow of illegal immigrants as Border Czar? She is a Black Woman?

What are you even talking about? Did I say any of those things. Have a good one.

 

[fatpiggy]

RFK has just as much support as Kamala, if not more, prior to Kamala being selected.

Remember, many news outlets on the left were calling for Kamala’s removal from the ticket for being a “drag” just weeks prior to her selection.

An open primary would have been interesting but I would put money on RFK finishing with a higher percentage of votes than Kamala if the vote was held prior to her selection.

 

[Dmk]

Literally the last time there was a primary the most Moderate candidate won.

2020? Yes true, but Buttigieg won Iowa, (Biden finished a distant 4th) and Bernie won New Hampshire (an admitted Socialist, and Biden finished a distant 5th.) Then came South Carolina and Biden won due to the African American Congressman from SC endorsing Biden. Then it got interesting because all of a sudden Buttigieg dropped out of the race. Why? He had just won Iowa and finished second in NH. Because the Dem power brokers met in a back room and knew for Biden (the supposed moderate) to win they needed everyone (including Warren) to drop out of the race so it could just be between Biden and Bernie, and the vote wouldn’t be split between 4 or so people. Buttigieg gets a cabinet position, and Kamala gets the VP position (because she was Obama’s choice) to set her up for taking over for the moderate whose had dimentia for at least half of his Presidency. But no worries, just protecting Democracy . Had Buttigieg stayed in the race I doubt Biden would have won, because the Bernie Bros were gonna support their Socialist also.

 

[Dmk]

Fair points and I hear ya.

But, my argument is, the reason the Dem party has moved left is because Obama has had a stranglehold on the direction of the party. The people have had no say.

Biden was a puppet of Obama.

Obama, Harris, and other Democratic elite hid Bidens mental decline to maintain their grip on power and preventing the people from re-directing the party to the center with an open primary.

It is not a natural lurch to the far left, it’s a power grab.

This is communism.

You make good points … we will never know though to be honest..

But consider this… the Dem party has shifted so far to the left that in 2016 and 2020 they came very close to nominating an admitted Socialist (Bernie). Now they’ve appointed one who doesn’t admit she’s a Socialist… but she comes in a more attractive package than the wild haired mad scientist looking Bernie. Since 2008 the Dems have been playing chess while the Republicans have played checkers, that’s why this country is almost lost.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

You make good points … we will never know though to be honest..

But consider this… the Dem party has shifted so far to the left that in 2016 and 2020 they came very close to nominating an admitted Socialist (Bernie). Now they’ve appointed one who doesn’t admit she’s a Socialist… but she comes in a more attractive package than the wild haired mad scientist looking Bernie. Since 2008 the Dems have been playing chess while the Republicans have played checkers, that’s why this country is almost lost.

Bernie Sanders is successful at the primary level for the same reason Trump has been (IMO). Lack of ranked choice voting. Sanders doesn't come close to representing the majority of the Democratic party, but what he does do is get 100% of the far left. And all the more Moderate Democratic votes are spread amongst a larger number of candidates. Say the far left is 15% of America, then 30% of the Dem party (just choosing round made up numbers). In a primary, if one candidate full gets their section of the party's vote, and the other 70% is spread amongst 5 candidates, the 30% is likely to win or get second in every state, which adds up if different states like different ones of the 5 more main stream candidates. So it often comes down to how often those 5 candidates drop out, consolidating the 70% of the vote. So I'm sure there are some back room deals to get candidates that may not be polling well in future states to drop out. But while that may seem nefarious, it is pretty easy to say it is ensuring the majority of the party is represented.

With ranked choice, I think you end up with a candidate that represents more American's personally. Because the 70% of Democrats, likely don't have Sanders in their top 3 at all.

 

[Dmk]

Bernie Sanders is successful at the primary level for the same reason Trump has been (IMO). Lack of ranked choice voting. Sanders doesn't come close to representing the majority of the Democratic party, but what he does do is get 100% of the far left. And all the more Moderate Democratic votes are spread amongst a larger number of candidates. Say the far left is 15% of America, then 30% of the Dem party (just choosing round made up numbers). In a primary, if one candidate full gets their section of the party's vote, and the other 70% is spread amongst 5 candidates, the 30% is likely to win or get second in every state, which adds up if different states like different ones of the 5 more main stream candidates. So it often comes down to how often those 5 candidates drop out, consolidating the 70% of the vote. So I'm sure there are some back room deals to get candidates that may not be polling well in future states to drop out. But while that may seem nefarious, it is pretty easy to say it is ensuring the majority of the party is represented.

With ranked choice, I think you end up with a candidate that represents more American's personally. Because the 70% of Democrats, likely don't have Sanders in their top 3 at all.

Good post and I agree with most of what you said. Trump does have a core percentage of voters that will push him over the top in the nomination process … that the others do not have…. Like Bernie does.

In my earlier post though I mentioned the situation with Buttigieg… he was not a candidate that was polling badly and all of a sudden he drops out just to ‘help the cause’. He had won Iowa and finished a close second to Bernie in NH. If we are truly having a democratic process and letting the voters choose, there’s no rational reason that guy drops out other than the reasons I mentioned… that he was told to.

And don’t get me wrong … I’m glad when a moderate Dem is their nominee. I don’t want the far left lol. I don’t believe Biden is/was far left, I believe he was a clever enough of a politician to know that the Dem party has moved much farther left and he had to acquiesce to those people. I’m not sure the % of the party that is far left… I believe it may be higher now than the number you gave, but that’s my opinion.