RFK Would Have Won An Open Democratic Primary

[UrHuckleberry]

Good post and I agree with most of what you said. Trump does have a core percentage of voters that will push him over the top in the nomination process … that the others do not have…. Like Bernie does.

In my earlier post though I mentioned the situation with Buttigieg… he was not a candidate that was polling badly and all of a sudden he drops out just to ‘help the cause’. He had won Iowa and finished a close second to Bernie in NH. If we are truly having a democratic process and letting the voters choose, there’s no rational reason that guy drops out other than the reasons I mentioned… that he was told to.

And don’t get me wrong … I’m glad when a moderate Dem is their nominee. I don’t want the far left lol. I don’t believe Biden is/was far left, I believe he was a clever enough of a politician to know that the Dem party has moved much farther left and he had to acquiesce to those people. I’m not sure the % of the party that is far left… I believe it may be higher now than the number you gave, but that’s my opinion.

With Pete, he dropped out after losing to Sanders in Nevada and getting absolutely crushed in SC to Biden, which is often an indicator for the Democratic primary. He was also polling around 10 or 11%. So disagree with your characterization there. But I do agree that you see people drop out early, but I just think it can happen for non-nefarious back room deal type things (like trying to consolidate the moderate vote). Don't read that I think all is hunky dory and clean in politics though to be fair. I'm sure backroom deals happen.

And I really don't know the % of the party that is far left, but I do know that on both sides, the fringe are the loudest, which makes it seem like the far left or far right are a larger percentage than they actually are. They are also the easiest to run against, so the other side likes to amplify it (again, both sides). Easier to run against the Green New Deal and Gun confiscation than common sense don't pollute and dump toxic waste and common sense gun law.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[UrHuckleberry]

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Who do you think?

 

[iceheart08]

I disagree with many of you.

I think RFK wins an open primary.
1) He is a moderate
2) The Name
3) Skilled Litigator

Momentum switches quickly in open primaries. Look at the Republican primary from 2016 when Trump came to power. If I recall, a Bush was in the primary and heavily favored, but it was Trumps ideas that people liked.

I think people would prefer Kennedy over Bidenomjcs. Bidenomics was so bad they made Joe quit.

I think RFK wins an open Democratic primary. But we will never know because Kamala was selected by the democratic elite.

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Bro. This is a laughable assertion.

 

[fatpiggy]

Bro. This is a laughable assertion.

What’s laughable is thinking Kamala would have won an open primary.

 

[iceheart08]

What’s laughable is thinking Kamala would have won an open primary.

I certainly wasn't making that argument. And im confused what that has to do with the ridiculous assertion you are making itt.

 

[firegiver]

I hear ya … but #1 is why he wouldn’t have won an open primary. He’s considered a moderate, and this is Obama’s Dem party and it has moved WAY too far to the left for a moderate to win their nomination now. (A young Bill Clinton couldn’t win their nomination now) Kamala may not have won either but we will never know.

He thinks vaccines are fake. Thats not moderate take.

 

[DW4_2016]

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trump going the DEI route will play well with his sycophants who hate DEI hires.

 

[firegiver]

So i was just listening to an RFK jr interview where he: Says he knew and hung out with: OJ, Bill Cosby, Jeffery Epstein and Glen Maxwell (She was always very nice to me).

This is the guy who's gonna bust up the deep state. The child of a dynasty of politicians who grew up in the lap of the elite.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I certainly wasn't making that argument. And im confused what that has to do with the ridiculous assertion you are making itt.

It's a lot easier to argue against a made up opinion of the other person than actually defend your own.

 

[fatpiggy]

It's a lot easier to argue against a made up opinion of the other person than actually defend your own.

God forbid I argue about the thread topic.

RFK would have beaten Kamala and it wouldn’t have been close.

Kamala is a horrible candidate . Democrats were calling for her to be removed from the ticket for being a drag just months ago.

 

[fatpiggy]

This will win lots of Moms over. We all know our food supply is shit and unhealthy. It was a topic that both sides of the aisle on this board agreed about earlier this year.

Huge America boner for Elon as efficiency leader and RFK to obliterate the deep state.

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[scotchtiger]

This will win lots of Moms over. We all know our food supply is shit and unhealthy. It was a topic that both sides of the aisle on this board agreed about earlier this year.

Huge America boner for Elon as efficiency leader and RFK to obliterate the deep state.

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Not sure RFKjr is the guy to do it, but we definitely need someone laser focused in improving our food supply, eliminating harmful ingredients/additives, educating people about diet and nutrition, etc. There should be a clear mission statement to get our obesity rate at least to European levels. Do those things and over time you fix a lot of issues with chronic disease, healthcare costs and Medicare budget.

 

[CUTiger1977]

 

[UrHuckleberry]

God forbid I argue about the thread topic.

RFK would have beaten Kamala and it wouldn’t have been close.

Kamala is a horrible candidate . Democrats were calling for her to be removed from the ticket for being a drag just months ago.

Trump wouldn't have won the Democratic Primary and it wouldn't have been close. Democrats would've had him removed a long time ago for his tomfoolery. He's a horrible Democratic candidate. He would've easily lost and anyone that argues otherwise is really really dumb.

 

[fatpiggy]

Trump wouldn't have won the Democratic Primary and it wouldn't have been close. Democrats would've had him removed a long time ago for his tomfoolery. He's a horrible Democratic candidate. He would've easily lost and anyone that argues otherwise is really really dumb.

I don't know. The Trump of today would obviously not win due to the brainwashing that has occurred over the last few years.

However, Trump is far from a traditional republican. He supports a lot of policies that would have been seen as democratic not that long ago. Many prominent Democrats praised Trump long ago.

I think Trump would have had a decent chance in the Democratic party back in the 80's / early 90's.

 

[yoshi121374]

Not sure RFKjr is the guy to do it, but we definitely need someone laser focused in improving our food supply, eliminating harmful ingredients/additives, educating people about diet and nutrition, etc. There should be a clear mission statement to get our obesity rate at least to European levels. Do those things and over time you fix a lot of issues with chronic disease, healthcare costs and Medicare budget.

I'm just waiting for someone to acknowledge that Michelle Obama tried to do this and was ridiculed by Republicans once they saw the cost.

Wild.

 

[yoshi121374]

I don't know. The Trump of today would obviously not win due to the brainwashing that has occurred over the last few years.

However, Trump is far from a traditional republican. He supports a lot of policies that would have been seen as democratic not that long ago. Many prominent Democrats praised Trump long ago.

I think Trump would have had a decent chance in the Democratic party back in the 80's / early 90's.

That was all before he started the insane Birther stuff. That absolutely eliminated him for any Democrats.

 

[scotchtiger]

I'm just waiting for someone to acknowledge that Michelle Obama tried to do this and was ridiculed by Republicans once they saw the cost.

Wild.

Here's an area I'm on board with the dems. Bloomberg also wanted to limit supersize sodas and what not. CA banned red dye in foods.

I'd layer in higher insurance premiums and medicare surcharges for obese Amercians as further alignment in paying your fair share and incentive to take care of yourself. We need to aggressively attack this issue. It's a massive, massive problem and contributor to major political issues like the cost of healthcare, the sustainability of Medicare, etc.