I think you’re very one sided on all you’ve said here.
Trump’s authoritarian America
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Lol. I don't have all ruby red friends and family. My 3 SILs and their families are all dems. MIL voted for Biden. I work at a very liberal company. I have plenty of democrat friends. Charleston and especially Mt. Pleasant has people from all over the US with different perspectives. I travel extensively and interact with people all over the US. None of my employees even reside in SC.
I'm pissed Trump destroyed the party too, but there's not much I can do now. I'll cast my vote for Nikki Haley then watch 2 piece of shit candidates duke it out. Seriously doubt my life changes much either way.
Oh I would definitely say that to your face or anyone else's, Elon fanboy pussy.
Sounds like you have a sane, well educated family and circle of friends/co-workers and if I were to guess, you probably avoid discussing politics when you're around them, but even if you did, it would be respectful and there would be no hard feelings afterwards. That's great and the way it should be, but that's not how it is for many others.
Just because my experience is different than yours, doesn't make it invalid, and I don't believe I'm being histrionic when I lay out my concerns. This man we're talking about is so grossly abnormal and corrupt that you don't know how it might change your life and I don't understand why you'd even entertain giving him a chance.
But what I do know, whether you like Joe or not, is if he won re-election, that might put an end to this extremist Magadocracy once and for all and might even lead to a more centrist type of Republican taking office in 2028. If we re-elect Trump, we may either never see another election again or we may never allow another Republican to take office in your lifetime after he destroys everything we value as Americans. And that's why I'm trying to sound the alarm as loudly as I can before it's too late.
Remember when Trump said over and over that he wouldn’t accept election results in a loss, and then when I suggested he might actually do that and you said I was “living in my own reality?” And here we are years later and he still hasn’t admitted he lost?
I just took him at his word and I’m taking him at his word now. He has flat out told us his desire to be an authoritarian. And somehow you still don’t believe him.
There is simply no question, none, that another Trump Presidency would push us closer to Fascism and would create a very dangerous environment for a significant portion of our population. The agenda is in writing for all to see with Project 2025.
“reasonable” republicans like you still call it histrionics after all that’s happened over the last 7 years, after watching candidates you would vote for say they’d support Trump even if he was convicted. It’s insane. And why? Because your love of a tax cut is greater than your love of country?
You’re just America’s version of a “good German.”
Imagine voting for someone who openly stated they’d support a candidate even if they were convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Actually he's the sane one that cares, not just about the impacts of who's president on him personally, but about the future of this country.
It's possible. Does man named CUpewpewcachoo have the fix for what ails me? I don't think your brain worms would work but I'll listen.
If we elect Trump we "may never see an election again" yet Trump is the one being disqualified from running?
Get help @dpic73
You keep leaving out the part where he's committed many crimes, therefore he is a criminal. Since you keep forgetting that, you may need to get help for your blind spot.
I have the fix you desire. A tall glass of bourbon helps along with the realization that Peace of mind cannot be taken from you but you can give it away.
I'm down pewcachoo! Cheers! 🍻
I can't wait for @scotchtiger's long-winded post this November about why Trump actually still was the best option.
I'm not much of a drinker these days, but the rest of your post is why I stopped coming over here.
This is just a new year's cameo.
Trump handled the post-election environment far worse than I expected. That's why I won't vote for him again. But that doesn't mean that my life will change in a massive way if Trump is elected. That was the point Cocks was making and I agreed with.
The comparisons to Nazi Germany continue to be laughable.
Taxes, man. Taxes. Pretty much the essence of his caring about presidents.
Yep, it'll be some recycled bullshit about traditional fiscal conservatism that really just means "at the end of the day I gotta look out for #1." It's a very appropriate and fitting mindset for 3 time Trump voters.
Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy had to have a beginning. If you know anything about it, this is fairly similar to those early days there of late 20's and early 30's. Economic situations as primary drivers are different, but laughable? I bet some people said that back then too.
I care about a lot more. But taxes are a major issue for sure. Not just for me personally, but philosophically with regard to the size and scope of government and the bitter poison served by the left about people not paying their "fair share."
Wanna bet? I'll see if I can snap a pic of my ballot. I'll wager 10% of my annual Trump tax savings.
I'll believe what you tell me. I don't think you're a liar. No need to risk getting yourself into trouble to settle a meaningless internet bet. Let's hold off on the terms for now. A conviction will probably make this too easy for you to win.
I think the OP and my response both went over your head. First time for everything I guess.
Yes, a lot of my beliefs line up with the Libertarian party. And I am definitely biased. Especially towards my beliefs. As with most libertarians, I struggle with giving short and concise answers. Apologies. Some of these items are true to both party’s but as I mentioned, at this point they are but a distinction without a difference. (With the exception of the hardcore Trump worshippers)
As a side note, Trump has co-opted and is in the process of ruining the Libertarian party. Also plays into my bias.
Again, for me this is more of a (Left/Right) vs (Trump Crazies), battle for total control.
List of grievances:
- Vaccine mandates
- Lockdowns
- forced business shutdowns
- Anything mandated, I mean good grief.
- Election interference- i.e- twitter files, laptop suppression, etc.
- War Hawks
- Attacks on free speech
- parental rights
- propping up and growing the bureaucratic system
- A growing comfort and acceptance with “othering” those who disagree with current party beliefs.
I could go on
The first four on your list fall under the same umbrella but I'll never understand how people could be so outraged over temporary measures that were put in place to save lives. The mandates weren't for everyone, but for healthcare workers(makes perfect sense), federal workers and companies with 100 or more employees, but they could also opt to undergo weekly testing instead. Did they get some of it wrong - maybe, but this was a once in a century event and they were learning as they went. This was NOT the deep state trying to control people's lives, it was about saving them. Personally, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Republicans who refused to take a few minutes to get a simple shot that wouldn't harm them, simply because they wanted Biden to fail - deny it all you want but we all know it's true. Additionally, Trump ordered the original lockdown.
As far as the twitter files nonsense, a reminder that it happened under Trump's tenure so if there was suppression, it happened under his government. As far as twitter employees, when the layers were peeled back, it revealed they were conflicted about what to do over their concerns about responsible, accurate reporting. All that noise over a temporary hold on sharing the laptop story - a story that could have been read in many other outlets by the way AND a story that shouldn't have had a bearing on the election anyway because there was nothing in it that proved that Biden was connected to any crimes. Just a bunch of FoxNews talking points, grasping at straws to scare people into believing it had an impact on Trump's loss. Ridiculous
The rest of your points could be construed as something both parties are guilty of so not seeing anything here that says Democrats are dangerous, and certainly not nearly as dangerous as the MAGA agenda.
Step away from the ledge.
Seriously.. why so dramatic? Anti-Trumpers are losing their minds. No kidding.. it’s not that serious, either way.
Understand, but you’re acting as if that’s reality. You know good & well it’s not. It’s far left drama.
Honestly, and I'm not at all one who is prone to histrionics, Trump and another Trump presidency would be really bad for America. He is pure scum and how he treats people is reprehensible. He appeals to the lowest instincts of people and it's scary. He encouraged violence and feeds into the worst instincts of people.
My life personally. Probably won't change much regardless of who is the president. I do care what happens to my fellow man and hate the idea of more Trump.
Hell yeah, brother
There’s a difference between making orders for the greater good that may be illegal, and forgetting where you stashed/refusing to return a bunch of top secret documents…but maybe that’s just me.
There’s a difference between making orders for the greater good that may be illegal, and forgetting where you stashed/refusing to return a bunch of top secret documents…but maybe that’s just me.
Maybe you didn’t read the first half of my statement. I was pretty clear in stating that both parties are guilty of most if not all of the things I listed. Does that make Democrats less dangerous then? Because the Republicans are doing it too?
Regarding twitter files- It’s also been revealed that Trumps White House also actively pressured the social media companies to blacklist or suppress certain accounts. Nevertheless, no matter who was in office at the time, democratic operatives mislead and pressured employees to censure accounts and suppress stories. I could care less what the story was about, nor do I care if had any sort of affect on the election.
Regarding the mandates. Where does it stop? Why does the gov’t get to arbitrarily decide when to force its will on the people? It’s cool to tell businesses to shut down?
Seems reasonable that nurse has to get a vaccine or lose her job? Or a Marine has to get a shot or lose his job?
