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Just show up and beat him at the voting booth then.
Absolutely! It's really pretty simple. If Trump supporters are such a minority, then it won't matter. Show up and vote for Desantis and Mitch Mcconnell!

Not even sure why people are panicking?

Here's the reality, the Desantis and Trump support combined won't beat Biden, right? That just happened in 2020!!!! why are we panicking that the vote will split. You can't beat the Dems with them combined?

It's like the Democrats are mad he's running, even though "they're going to crush him" and they hate him. Why do y'all care? He's not your guy anyways.
The Republicans are mad he's running because "he's going to split the vote", like it even matters, lol. Why do y'all care? He's not your guy anyways.

You don't see me running to a Democratic thread whining and crying about their candidate. This thread is full of Dems who hate anything that's not Liberal. Did you think we thought you would be happy? Why do you even care? You're winning the election regardless of who runs.

Y'all could nominate a stuffed teddy bear and somehow, he will win and shatter the voting record! Probably nominate a dead VP as well. It doesn't matter. We've got states nominating Republican Treasurers and winning by a landslide but their Democratic Governors winning by narrow margins, lol. In the same state! Just enough to win it!

Edit*** I shouldn't have assumed the Teddy bear was a "him"... my fault.
 
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Just show up and beat him at the voting booth then.
I don't think yall understand that moderates won't vote for Trump in the general election. thats why he will lose. It has nothing to do with the republican primary. I'm voting red no matter who but the 20% in the middle won't!
 
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Absolutely! It's really pretty simple. If Trump supporters are such a minority, then it won't matter. Show up and vote for Desantis and Mitch Mcconnell!

Not even sure why people are panicking?

Here's the reality, the Desantis and Trump support combined won't beat Biden, right? That just happened in 2020!!!! why are we panicking that the vote will split. You can't beat the Dems with them combined?

It's like the Democrats are mad he's running, even though "they're going to crush him" and they hate him. Why do y'all care? He's not your guy anyways.
The Republicans are mad he's running because "he's going to split the vote", like it even matters, lol. Why do y'all care? He's not your guy anyways.

You don't see me running to a Democratic thread whining and crying about their candidate. This thread is full of Dems who hate anything that's not Liberal. Did you think we thought you would be happy? Why do you even care? You're winning the election regardless of who runs.

Y'all could nominate a stuffed teddy bear and somehow, he will win and shatter the voting record! Probably nominate a dead VP as well. It doesn't matter. We've got states nominating Republican Treasurers and winning by a landslide but their Democratic Governors winning by narrow margins, lol. In the same state! Just enough to win it!

Edit*** I shouldn't have assumed the Teddy bear was a "him"... my fault.
i don't think any of the "democrats" itt have shown anger about trump running.

it's more a collective laughter and celebration
 
i don't think any of the "democrats" itt have shown anger about trump running.

it's more a collective laughter and celebration
Ok, they find it funny and they're not mad. Glad we got that cleared up. They're just here for the laugh.
 
Ok, they find it funny and they're not mad. Glad we got that cleared up. They're just here for the laugh.

I'm not mad, I'm disappointed that this scumbag keeps having idiots buy his bullshit. I continue to have hope that people will wake the hell up and see him for what he is.

I'm disappointed because I hoped we would see a substantive debate over issues and that is probably not going to happen now since Trump can't actually debate issues, and all he will do is lower the discussion into insults and making himself a victim.

I'm disappointed because Trump is the worst part of America. I really, really hope Republicans will shun his garbage this time. I pray that @scotchtiger and @Willence are the majority of voters and not @TigerGrowls and @TigerRagRob.

This presidential primary is truly for the soul of the Republican party. Do they reject idiocy, conspiracy theories,and hatred, and move towards issues,truth and actual governance? We will see.
 

Live look at Ron Desantis today.


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I'm not mad, I'm disappointed that this scumbag keeps having idiots buy his bullshit. I continue to have hope that people will wake the hell up and see him for what he is.

I'm disappointed because I hoped we would see a substantive debate over issues and that is probably not going to happen now since Trump can't actually debate issues, and all he will do is lower the discussion into insults and making himself a victim.

I'm disappointed because Trump is the worst part of America. I really, really hope Republicans will shun his garbage this time. I pray that @scotchtiger and @Willence are the majority of voters and not @TigerGrowls and @TigerRagRob.

This presidential primary is truly for the soul of the Republican party. Do they reject idiocy, conspiracy theories,and hatred, and move towards issues,truth and actual governance? We will see.
Maybe he's not one of them. The "Republicans" don't like Trump. Maybe he doesnt liek them, either.

Just so I understand.... You don't want Trump to run because you want to have honest debates and you hate that people like him? I dont anticipate Biden being able to speak at all, much less have an "honest debate".

To me, Biden supports the worse part of America. To me, Biden is a corrupt politician. To me, he's everything wrong with "politicians" who are millionaires on qtr million-dollar salary.

But I don't care what he does... I don't care if he runs. To me, if this country likes Biden and where we are headed then man, it is what it is. Nothing I can do about it, but come across as a cry baby.
 
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Maybe he's not one of them. The "Republicans" don't like Trump.

Just so I understand.... You don't want Trump to run because you want to have honest debates and you hate that people like him? I dont anticipate Biden being able to speak at all, much less have an "honest debate".

To me, Biden supports the worse part of America. To me, Biden is a corrupt politician. To me, he's everything wrong with "politicians" who are millionaires on half a million-dollar salary.

But I don't care what he does... I don't care if he runs.
i think what @yoshi121374 was saying, and please correct me if i'm wrong yoshi, was that he is disappointed that trump is running because he wants the GOP to go back to being a respectable party. as long as trump is in the picture there's going to be a devolution of sorts in the political process because instead of discussing policy and how the GOP can help the citizens, it's going to become a shitpost marathon like it was in 2016/2018/2020. the sooner the GOP is able to wash their hands of the MAGA movement, the better.

for the most part, i think every current "democrat" poster on the round table is a former republican, and probably still leans right, they just don't like what the GOP has turned into by catering to the lowest common denominator.

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Maybe he's not one of them. The "Republicans" don't like Trump. Maybe he doesnt liek them, either.

Just so I understand.... You don't want Trump to run because you want to have honest debates and you hate that people like him? I dont anticipate Biden being able to speak at all, much less have an "honest debate".

To me, Biden supports the worse part of America. To me, Biden is a corrupt politician. To me, he's everything wrong with "politicians" who are millionaires on half a million-dollar salary.

But I don't care what he does... I don't care if he runs. To me, if this country likes Biden and where we are headed then man, it is what it is. Nothing I can do about it, but come across as a cry baby.

Biden can absolutely discuss and debate policy. He certainly isn't my first choice,but he also isn't close to the windbag con artist that Trump is.

Trump is not capable of debate because Trump is lazy and won't read or study topics. That is extremely well documented. Trump claims he is a Christian,but never had to ask Jesus for forgiveness, "Because he doesn't need to". That's mind-blowing to me.
 
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It's kind of a shame really. Trump just handed the White House over to the Dems for 4 more years. Biden is a sucky President and any reasonable Republican candidate would win easily. I would be open to voting for a moderate Republican, but as an Independent I'll NEVER vote for Trump and I suspect most Independents feel that way. The bottom line is that 80% more or less of voters are going to vote Republican Democrat depending on their party affiliation ... No matter the person. That's historically true no matter the popularity of the person or the state of the country. Trump has his base, no doubt. As he said, he could walk out into the street and shoot someone down and he wouldn't lose a single vote from them.

Take Growls as an example... Trump could tell us that the sky is Green and Growls would be on here the next day telling us how blue is really green and posting 5 TGP articles on how the Deep State actually changed the color names just to get Trump.

BUT 40% isn't enough to get it done. And love him or hate him... EVERYONE has their minds made up on Trump... He's not going to "win" any undecided votes (unlike 2016). He won't win this time. But that won't stop him from damaging America even more than he already has by telling any and everyone that the only way he could possibly lose is for people to cheat. But that's just the way it is... Trump is going to do what he thinks is best for him personally... EVERY TIME. If American interests are aligned with Trump's we are in good shape. If the countries' interests aren't, then Trump is going to look after #1. He always has and always will.
 
Biden can absolutely discuss and debate policy. He certainly isn't my first choice,but he also isn't close to the windbag con artist that Trump is.

Trump is not capable of debate because Trump is lazy and won't read or study topics. That is extremely well documented. Trump claims he is a Christian,but never had to ask Jesus for forgiveness, "Because he doesn't need to". That's mind-blowing to me.
Ok, that's your opinion. Here's the real ruth. You and I will never agree. I can't stand corruption and I think half of our politicians are corrupt people. You don't.

We'll never agree. But I'm not trying to convince you of it. It's ok if you like the opposite of me.

I hope Desantis runs as a Republican. I hope Trump runs as an independent. If the Dems win, so be it. Why does that bother you? Trump people are the huge minority, right? Maybe we need to draw a line in the sand and say "Here's republican people, Here's Democrats, and here's another option...Maybe then we'll see the real numbers and either the Republicans wake up or the Independant's fall apart.

Anything that blows up the two party scene, im for! Im not a Republican. I'll never support anything that Mitch McConnell wants. He and I do not like the same people.
 
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Ok, that's your opinion. Here's the real ruth. You and I will never agree. I can't stand corruption and I think half of our politicians are corrupt people. You don't.

We'll never agree. But I'm not trying to convince you of it. It's ok if you like the opposite of me.

But you like Trump? You don't see how not liking corruption, and then liking Trump is not understandable? His entire life has been filled with corruption. You Trump fans seem to believe that there was no Donald Trump prior to the Apprentice. He has a long sordid history of being trash and a conman.
 
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Maybe he's not one of them. The "Republicans" don't like Trump. Maybe he doesnt liek them, either.

Just so I understand.... You don't want Trump to run because you want to have honest debates and you hate that people like him? I dont anticipate Biden being able to speak at all, much less have an "honest debate".

To me, Biden supports the worse part of America. To me, Biden is a corrupt politician. To me, he's everything wrong with "politicians" who are millionaires on qtr million-dollar salary.

But I don't care what he does... I don't care if he runs. To me, if this country likes Biden and where we are headed then man, it is what it is. Nothing I can do about it, but come across as a cry baby.

LOL. Your boy trump last night said he went decades as president without any wars. He was not president for decades, nor did he go without war.
 
LOL. Your boy trump last night said he went decades as president without any wars. He was not president for decades, nor did he go without war.
Its' ok, you don't like the guy. I get it. Im not the one expecting you to change. It's like you have to pop in and make a comment on someone you can't stand. So weird man.

There's not a political thread on this board where you and your other two buddies aren't doubling down every other post. Literally discussing someone you don't like. Wasting your time and breathe on someone you don't like. Laughing and hoping he runs so you can "win by a landslide" yet concerned he's running because "you want honest discussion."

Again, do you think you will ever even bend in your beliefs? Are you even willing to be open and change your stance? Likely not, and if not, what are you doing? Just move on. I'm not trying to change your mind.

The jokes on me, right?
 
Its' ok, you don't like the guy. I get it. Im not the one expecting you to change. It's like you have to pop in and make a comment on someone you can't stand. So weird man.

There's not a political thread on this board where you and your other two buddies aren't doubling down every other post. Literally discussing someone you don't like. Wasting your time and breathe on someone you don't like. Laughing and hoping he runs so you can "win by a landslide" yet concerned he's running because "you want honest discussion."

Again, do you think you will ever even bend in your beliefs? Are you even willing to be open and change your stance? Likely not, and if not, what are you doing? Just move on. I'm not trying to change your mind.

The jokes on me, right?

Help me understand why you like Donald Trump. Change my mind.
 
Its' ok, you don't like the guy. I get it. Im not the one expecting you to change. It's like you have to pop in and make a comment on someone you can't stand. So weird man.

There's not a political thread on this board where you and your other two buddies aren't doubling down every other post. Literally discussing someone you don't like. Wasting your time and breathe on someone you don't like. Laughing and hoping he runs so you can "win by a landslide" yet concerned he's running because "you want honest discussion."

Again, do you think you will ever even bend in your beliefs? Are you even willing to be open and change your stance? Likely not, and if not, what are you doing? Just move on. I'm not trying to change your mind.

The jokes on me, right?

The jokes on all of us when Donald trump precipitates the downfall of our ****ing republic because he can't accept that he lost.
 
Ok, they find it funny and they're not mad. Glad we got that cleared up. They're just here for the laugh.
I don't think it's funny but I'm also not the slightest bit mad. The only people angry about it itt are the Republicans who voted for Trump twice but now golly gee just can't figure out how we got to this point and shucks why won't he just go away?
 
Eerily familiar.. no?
I agree... no one took him seriously in 2016 (including me...)

I never liked the man... I didn't like him when he was a atheist, liberal Dem from NY... and I didn't like him when he decided he was suddenly a conservative, evangelical, Republican). Again, nothing to do with his policies, but I simply think he's a really bad guy.

I'm HOPING that everyone has their minds made up about him by now (love him or hate him). And that he won't be able to convince folks that he's out to somehow "Drain the Swamp". We all know now that he's just another version of swamp creature himself.
 
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Help me understand why you like Donald Trump. Change my mind.
I can you tell you why I like him. But it's not to "change your mind". I don't expect to and won't try to. Again, this will further show you why we disagree and will likely never agree.

I believe sometime in the 60's and 70's this country was "infiltrated" by people who prefer to fundamentally shape it more like a communist country and less like what we know the USA to be. That belief shapes my entire perspective about politics. If you don't think that's possible and you think that "most politicians" genuinely want what's best for the American Citizen, then we shouldn't go any further because we could never agree.

I don't think we will ever have another President in our lifetime who will do the job for Free. I don't anticipate ever having another President who is "not a politician". I think the corrupt people in this country who continue to suck the money form the American people don't like Trump. I think Trump is a roadblock for them.

There's a reason his own party spent north of $65M against him after they made him sign that he "wouldn't run as an independent". They don't like him. Dems don't like him. The media let's face it... it's 100% corrupt. I think we can all agree on that, right? They hate Trump. I mean, does anyone really believe he's actually racist? Isn't it weird that's what they want you to believe? Why is that? There's more proof of Biden family corruption than Trump racism, but im not dying on that hill. Why not the same coverage? Do you believe the news media doesn't have an agenda? Why do we have to have Fox and CNN? Why can't we have a news where people just report what happened and that's it? What's wrong with wanting that? I don't think someone ate a bat and the world got Covid. I think they (news media) knew that back then and turns out, they did. But I was a conspiracy theorist back then because that thought was foreign to people.

So, from my viewpoint, without further boring you to death with things that truly do not interest you, I like him because everyone I believe to be corrupt, Republicans, Democrats and Media all hate him. I hate corruption in government more than anything. He's not perfect and he never will be. I don't think anyone is nor is anyone above criticism. He took Pfizer money and I'll never agree with that. But I'm also ok admitting that. However, I don't think anyone can win President of the US unless you've been bought. Blackmail favors and corruption have ruined nearly every civilization on earth. We're not above it.
 
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The jokes on all of us when Donald trump precipitates the downfall of our ****ing republic because he can't accept that he lost.
He aint winning. Nobody is winning but a dem from here on out. Mark it down. Dude, Biden absolutely destroyed Obama's vote record. Who's beating that?

You should know that...
 
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I don't think it's funny but I'm also not the slightest bit mad. The only people angry about it itt are the Republicans who voted for Trump twice but now golly gee just can't figure out how we got to this point and shucks why won't he just go away?
Exactly why i hope he runs as an Independant. Let the "Republicans" have their guy. Dems winning anyways.
 
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I can you tell you why I like him. But it's not to "change your mind". I don't expect to and won't try to. Again, this will further show you why we disagree and will likely never agree.

I believe sometime in the 60's and 70's this country was "infiltrated" by people who prefer to fundamentally shape it more like a communist country and less like what we know the USA to be. That belief shapes my entire perspective about politics. If you don't think that's possible and you think that "most politicians" genuinely want what's best for the American Citizen, then we shouldn't go any further because we could never agree.

I don't think we will ever have another President in our lifetime who will do the job for Free. I don't anticipate ever having another President who is "not a politician". I think the corrupt people in this country who continue to suck the money form the American people don't like Trump. I think Trump is a roadblock for them.

There's a reason his own party spent north of $65M against him after they made him sign that he "wouldn't run as an independent". They don't like him. Dems don't like him. The media let's face it... it's 100% corrupt. I think we can all agree on that, right? They hate Trump. I mean, does anyone really believe he's actually racist? Isn't it weird that's what they want you to believe? Why is that? There's more proof of Biden family corruption than Trump racism, but im not dying on that hill. Why not the same coverage? Do you believe the news media doesn't have an agenda? Why do we have to have Fox and CNN? Why can't we have a news where people just report what happened and that's it? What's wrong with wanting that? I don't think someone ate a bat and the world got Covid. I think they (news media) knew that back then and turns out, they did. But I was a conspiracy theorist back then because that thought was foreign to people.

So, from my viewpoint, without further boring you to death with things that truly do not interest you, I like him because everyone I believe to be corrupt, Republicans, Democrats and Media all hate him. I hate corruption in government more than anything. He's not perfect and he never will be. I don't think anyone is. However, I don't think anyone can win President of the US unless you've been bought. Blackmail favors and corruption have ruined nearly every civilization on earth. We're not above it.

Let's say for the sake of discussion that I agree with the premise that we need an outsider.... Why Trump? He's a totally horrid human being. How did he sell you that he was an agent of change?
 
Let's say for the sake of discussion that I agree with the premise that we need an outsider.... Why Trump? He's a totally horrid human being. How did he sell you that he was an agent of change?
Well, I couldn't begin to discuss that unless you presented to me the reason he's a horrid human being? Maybe you'd change my mind. Obviously, you can tell I don't like bad people.
 
Well, I couldn't begin to discuss that unless you presented to me the reason he's a horrid human being? Obviously, you can tell I don't like bad people.

There is 50 years of documented history. It includes cheating employees and contractors, conning customers with garbage fake business such as Trump University, multiple adulteries and affairs, faking Chriistianity. He is also a terrible businessman who has gone bankrupt multiple times.

isn't debatable that he has an awful history. You guys have bought his scam that he's this self made guy who is here to help you. He has never been about anyone but Donald Trump.
 
There is 50 years of documented history. It includes cheating employees and contractors, conning customers with garbage fake business such as Trump University, multiple adulteries and affairs, faking Chriistianity. He is also a terrible businessman who has gone bankrupt multiple times.

isn't debatable that he has an awful history. You guys have bought his scam that he's this self made guy who is here to help you. He has never been about anyone but Donald Trump.
I don't disagree with you that he isn't some "self made" guru who walks the fine line in life and goes to the church every Sunday. If that existed, which it doesn't, we wouldn't vote that guy either.

By that standard, Jesus Christ could run for President, and you'd have 40-45% of the people who wouldn't like him simply because of who he is. There are people who hate Jesus and Church, isn't that wild? I don't go to church and I'll never vote anything in my life based on that, but it's wild to me the people who vote against it, based on that. Remember, I believe in evil and corruption. No lie, Jesus could run for Prez and the US media would try to convince you he was bad.

Again, I'm not trying to change what you believe. I was merely trying to help you better understand what I believe.
 
I don't disagree with you that he isn't some "self made" guru who walks the fine line in life and goes to the church every Sunday. If that existed, which it doesn't, we wouldn't vote that guy either.

By that standard, Jesus Christ could run for President, and you'd have 40-45% of the people who wouldn't like him simply because of who he is. There are people who hate Jesus and Church, isn't that wild? I don't go to church and I'll never vote anything in my life based on that, but it's wild to me the people who vote against it, based on that. That's where my belief of evil and corruption come in.

Again, I'm not trying to change what you believe. I was merely trying to help you better understand what I believe.

But do you understand why I have such a hard time believing why you guys have supported him?

He isn't in this for you or America. He is in it for Donald J Trump, just like everything else he's ever done. He is a Narcissist
 
But do you understand why I have such a hard time believing why you guys have supported him?

He isn't in this for you or America. He is in it for Donald J Trump, just like everything else he's ever done. He is a Narcissist
I believe every single president or politician at the highest level in this country is a narcissist. Michael Jordan is, but you wouldn't pick him first on your basketball team? He gambles and is an absolutely terrible husband. But he's good at what he does and if I want my team to win, I'm picking him. I'm betting he's going to lay it all on the line to disrupt his competition and beat them. I've never met anyone who is extremely successful, like top 5% successful, who isn't Narcissist.

I think it's a stretch that you're going to love someone. I think your mistaken, if you think you're going to find the utopia.... Again, I think corruption hates him and I hate corruption. I think that term gets overused, much like "he's racist". I've yet to find an instance where the man was actually racist. But there's people who actually believe that. They sincerely believe that.

If you think someone will represent this country on the world stage and he or she will be "just like me and you" you're sadly mistaken.
 
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Well, I couldn't begin to discuss that unless you presented to me the reason he's a horrid human being? Maybe you'd change my mind. Obviously, you can tell I don't like bad people.
So you've stated in multiple posts that you don't like corrupt politicians or bad people but you like Trump. He is worse than any other in both categories. Make it make sense...
 
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I believe every single president or politician at the highest level in this country is a narcissist. Michael Jordan is, but you wouldn't pick him first on your basketball team? He gambles and is an absolutely terrible husband. But he's good at what he does and if I want my team to win, I'm picking him. I'm betting he's going to lay it all on the line to disrupt his competition and beat them. I've never met anyone who is extremely successful, like top 5% successful, who isn't Narcissist.

I think it's a stretch that you're going to love someone. I think your mistaken, if you think you're going to find the utopia.... Again, I think corruption hates him and I hate corruption. I think that term gets overused, much like "he's racist". I've yet to find an instance where the man was actually racist. But there's people who actually believe that. They sincerely believe that.

If you think someone will represent this country on the world stage and he or she will be "just like me and you" you're sadly mistaken.

So you've stated in multiple posts that you don't like corrupt politicians or bad people but you like Trump. He is worse than any other in both categories. Make it make sense...

Exactly this. He is everything that you claim you don't like, yet you like him. That's what blows out collective minds.
 
So you've stated in multiple posts that you don't like corrupt politicians or bad people but you like Trump. He is worse than any other in both categories. Make it make sense...
You skipped the part where i wasn't trying to convince you. I'm not trying to make it make sense to you. You don't have to understand it.
 
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Exactly this. He is everything that you claim you don't like, yet you like him. That's what blows out collective minds.
Again, you're never going to see it. In a million years. I'll never understand why you like what you like. But I didn't ask you, either.

20 Years ago, if Trump ran as a Democrat, which is honestly what he's probably closest to being, you would have loved him. But that's before the media told you to hate him.

Every single person "trying to understand" and responding are die hard liberals, who regurgitate everything the news media says, but "want to understand"? I don't expect you guys to ever agree with me. I think you might have missed the part where I stated multiple times, that we weren't going to agree and I wasn't trying to convince you.
 
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You skipped the part where i wasn't trying to convince you. I'm not trying to make it make sense to you. You don't have to understand it.
Good, because you're not making headway. Sounds to me that you're trying to convince yourself by ignoring everything that's wrong with him and projecting it onto others.
 
Good, because you're not making headway. Sounds to me that you're trying to convince yourself by ignoring everything that's wrong with him and projecting it onto others.
yep, you got it all figured out man! I'll bet you believe 6 cops were killed on January 6th too, right? Still believe someone ate a bat at a wet market?

You want covid amnesty, don't you? They didn't know what they were dealing with....
 
True, for everything except you. You don't make a bit of sense but that's ok.....
You are like addicted to these threads and want everyone to see it your way or else. Sounds like something I want to be a part of! You're so full of knowledge and you've really educated me. Thanks for everything!
 
You are like addicted to these threads and want everyone to see it your way or else. Sounds like something I want to be a part of! You're so full of knowledge and you've really educated me. Thanks for everything!
Whatev, I've committed myself to confronting misinformation and lies because they're just too important to ignore. It's fine if you don't see it my way because it's a free world and I don't own this board. Doesn't mean I won't challenge you and you're free to do the same. Capiche?
 
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