Why are republicans afraid to debate democrats?

[dpic73]

The RNC asked for commonsense debate reforms. The CPD is an extension of the dems and seems to not want to listen to any reforms. Last election debates, when there were any, due to covid were biased (which I am sure you'll argue) at best.

Where is this coming from? The CPD is a non-partisan organization including a Republican founder, a Republican co-chair, a former Republican senator and an Executive Director who worked in the Reagan White House.

The two debate moderators in 2020 were Kristen Welker who drew praise from both sides and Chris Wallace from Fox News.

Maybe you wouldn't care so much who was on the commission or who moderated the debates if your candidate had nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Let's stop pretending that they shouldn't be asked about shitty decisions because it makes them look bad. Just don't do shitty things ;-).

CPD: Commission Leadership

www.debates.org

 

[DW4_2016]

Where is this coming from? The CPD is a non-partisan organization including a Republican founder, a Republican co-chair, a former Republican senator and an Executive Director who worked in the Reagan White House.

The two debate moderators in 2020 were Kristen Welker who drew praise from both sides and Chris Wallace from Fox News.

Maybe you wouldn't care so much who was on the commission or who moderated the debates if your candidate had nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Let's stop pretending that they shouldn't be asked about shitty decisions because it makes them look bad. Just don't do shitty things ;-).

CPD: Commission Leadership

www.debates.org

Fox News is liberal now. Didn't you hear

 

[dpic73]

Fox News is liberal now. Didn't you hear

I know right? Have you seen the promo for Tucker's upcoming special? It even has a segment on testicle tanning therapy. Who knew he was so ultra-woke? 😅

We Regret to Inform You That Tucker Carlson’s New Special Does In Fact Promote ‘Testicle Tanning’

Mediaite can now confirm that, yes, Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson's new special, "The End of Men," does in fact promote "testicle tanning" as a way that men can raise testosterone levels.

www.mediaite.com

 

[PawsFan_]

The RNC has preemptively dropped out of future presidential debates. As bad as you guys say Joe Biden is, why is that? Seems like they would be chomping at the bit. Why is it?

I assume this is a joke, right?

Biden was hidden in a basement last presidential cycle. His handlers refused to put him in the spotlight knowing he'd embarrass himself. The result: we now have a president who is clearly suffering from dementia. No problem though right? HIs handlers will act as president in his stead. When the debates did occur the panel was stacked with liberal sycophants and democratic donors. They echoed liberal talking points in their questions and constantly interrupted the Republican candidate. It was an embarrassing display of bias in what is suppose to be a fair and balanced debate format.

Hillary was given the debate questions prior to her debate with Trump. Yeah no cheating there right?

Debates will still happen, but an organization more worthy and unbiased than the CPD will get to host them.

 

[dpic73]

I assume this is a joke, right?

Biden was hidden in a basement last presidential cycle. His handlers refused to put him in the spotlight knowing he'd embarrass himself. The result: we now have a president who is clearly suffering from dementia. No problem though right? HIs handlers will act as president in his stead. When the debates did occur the panel was stacked with liberal sycophants and democratic donors. They echoed liberal talking points in their questions and constantly interrupted the Republican candidate. It was an embarrassing display of bias in what is suppose to be a fair and balanced debate format.

Hillary was given the debate questions prior to her debate with Trump. Yeah no cheating there right?

Debates will still happen, but an organization more worthy and unbiased than the CPD will get to host them.

What the heck are you talking about? The two debate moderators in 2020 were Kristen Welker who drew praise from both sides and Chris Wallace from Fox News. Trump TALKED OVER Wallace and Joe, not vice versa, which is what got him in trouble. The moderators weren't the problem - the candidate was.

 

[moradatiger70]

Where is this coming from? The CPD is a non-partisan organization including a Republican founder, a Republican co-chair, a former Republican senator and an Executive Director who worked in the Reagan White House.

The two debate moderators in 2020 were Kristen Welker who drew praise from both sides and Chris Wallace from Fox News.

Maybe you wouldn't care so much who was on the commission or who moderated the debates if your candidate had nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Let's stop pretending that they shouldn't be asked about shitty decisions because it makes them look bad. Just don't do shitty things ;-).

CPD: Commission Leadership

www.debates.org

Try these one:
Steve Scully
Candy Crowley
Anderson Cooper

The moderator should never be part of the story at the end of the debate. It would be better to have a random panel, hidden from view, asking questions, give candidates a certain time, then cut their mic and move on. Are you opposed to that sort of common ground?

Why would you think I care about asking a candidate about shitty decisions or accusations. All for it!

Also:
>Wouldn't you think it makes sense to inform both candidates of debate format changes and not just one side?
>Wouldn't you think it makes the best sense to have presidential debates before any voting commences?

 

[dpic73]

Try these one:
Steve Scully
Candy Crowley
Anderson Cooper

The moderator should never be part of the story at the end of the debate. It would be better to have a random panel, hidden from view, asking questions, give candidates a certain time, then cut their mic and move on. Are you opposed to that sort of common ground?

Why would you think I care about asking a candidate about shitty decisions or accusations. All for it!

Also:
>Wouldn't you think it makes sense to inform both candidates of debate format changes and not just one side?
>Wouldn't you think it makes the best sense to have presidential debates before any voting commences?

We're going back six years now? To an election he won despite who the moderators were? Sure, I'm fine with your bottom two proposals but I guarantee you that has nothing to do with the REAL reason they don't want to debate. If it's Trump or a Trump sycophant, they will lie their ass off or be forced to answer questions that will get them in trouble. But if it was a Repub candidate like Larry Hogan, do you think he'd be worried about the questions? Hell no, because he's a decent guy who didn't hitch his wagon to the orange convoy... he'd probably also win for that reason if he could get through the primary.

 

[moradatiger70]

We're going back six years now? To an election he won despite who the moderators were? Sure, I'm fine with your bottom two proposals but I guarantee you that has nothing to do with the REAL reason they don't want to debate. If it's Trump or a Trump sycophant, they will lie their ass off or be forced to answer questions that will get them in trouble. But if it was a Repub candidate like Larry Hogan, do you think he'd be worried about the questions? Hell no, because he's a decent guy who didn't hitch his wagon to the orange convoy... he'd probably also win for that reason if he could get through the primary.

How can you guarantee that?

Yes, going back, because it's been going on for a long time.
I agree trump was totally out of line during the 2020 debate and it was all a complete disgrace.
My belief is that the republicans and I would be willing to bet a lot of Americans, no matter party lines would agree with debate reform and I do not see anything wrong with a nonpartisan moderator (if possible) or what I suggested previously.

So why is the left so up in arms with the suggestions about reform? What are they afraid of?

 

[dpic73]

How can you guarantee that?

Yes, going back, because it's been going on for a long time.
I agree trump was totally out of line during the 2020 debate and it was all a complete disgrace.
My belief is that the republicans and I would be willing to bet a lot of Americans, no matter party lines would agree with debate reform and I do not see anything wrong with a nonpartisan moderator (if possible) or what I suggested previously.

So why is the left so up in arms with the suggestions about reform? What are they afraid of?

Are they up in arms? Where have you seen that they are?

 

[moradatiger70]

First, reread the topic of this thread.








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[nytigerfan]

First, reread the topic of this thread.

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Kinzinger is a republican.

McConnell said publicly the other day that he is concerned about the midterms because of the types of candidates the pubs are choosing (e.g. the ones Trump is endorsing). I mean, do you think anyone wants Herschel Walker answering questions in a debate? There is so much baggage there. And if he does debate and a moderator asks him about beating up his wife, you and your ilk will cry about it and say that the moderator is partisan.

 

[dpic73]

First, reread the topic of this thread.

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Dude, this is not Dems squawking about the reforms. This is PEOPLE calling the Repubs snowflakes.

 

[moradatiger70]

Dude, this is not Dems squawking about the reforms. This is PEOPLE calling the Repubs snowflakes.

That's fine, like I said before, just because I like some of the things trump did and I think Biden is a complete failure does not make me or anyone else that has those same thoughts a trump follower. NO matter who is screaming that the RNC are snowflakes for wanting a fair debate, must be insecure themselves. I think we all want a level playing field.

 

[moradatiger70]

Kinzinger is a republican.

McConnell said publicly the other day that he is concerned about the midterms because of the types of candidates the pubs are choosing (e.g. the ones Trump is endorsing). I mean, do you think anyone wants Herschel Walker answering questions in a debate? There is so much baggage there. And if he does debate and a moderator asks him about beating up his wife, you and your ilk will cry about it and say that the moderator is partisan.

Hershel has about as much of a chance as your shark tank boy, and I'd be careful talking about politicians who might not be able to answer questions. You voted for 2 of the worst in history!

 

[TigerGrowls]

Kinzinger is a republican.

McConnell said publicly the other day that he is concerned about the midterms because of the types of candidates the pubs are choosing (e.g. the ones Trump is endorsing). I mean, do you think anyone wants Herschel Walker answering questions in a debate? There is so much baggage there. And if he does debate and a moderator asks him about beating up his wife, you and your ilk will cry about it and say that the moderator is partisan.

Did Joe get asked about the woman who accused him of rape? Did he get asked about his crime empire? Did he get asked about Tony Bobulinski or any other tough questions?

 

[dpic73]

That's fine, like I said before, just because I like some of the things trump did and I think Biden is a complete failure does not make me or anyone else that has those same thoughts a trump follower. NO matter who is screaming that the RNC are snowflakes for wanting a fair debate, must be insecure themselves. I think we all want a level playing field.

Select quotes from this interesting article:

"During the 2020 debates, many people saw then-President Donald Trump abuse his opponent, the moderators, and the rules. But in the Trump Cinematic Universe, Trump was victimized by the unfair mainstream media, a group expanded to include Chris Wallace, a nearly two-decade star of Fox News’s Sunday-morning show."

"You might think that a presidential debate would be the place to hash out such differences. But what the RNC is saying with its vote is, Unless we know in advance that a debate moderator believes in the same version of reality as we do, we will not participate at all. The only people who are unbiased are the people who already agree with us."

"Debate organizers may now try to appease the RNC, but the effort may well only make an already tense situation worse. If you believe that Chris Wallace is biased against Republicans, whom would you regard as an acceptable alternative? Joe Rogan? Tucker Carlson? Alex Jones? Russian state TV’s Vladimir Solovyov? Maybe the only way to satisfy TCU fans is to just let Trump interview himself for 90 minutes, to be followed by a panel applauding Trump and ridiculing his rival?"

"One of the defining features of the TCU is that its fans are not all that interested in political issues per se. TCU fandom is about political representation: how issues are described, how issues are perceived. That’s why “the media” is such a powerful target in TCU discourse, never mind the obvious paradox that the TCU is itself a media creation. The core grievance is, “I don’t like what I’m hearing and seeing in the external world beyond the special enclave I inhabit.”

The End of Presidential Debates

Only those conversant with the pro-Trump right’s myths and legends will be able to decipher the Republican National Committee’s latest decision.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[scotchtiger]

We can spin it anyway we want, but this is a bad look. Just work with the commission on mutually approved moderators.

 

[WapPride]

the problem is there's no one that is completely neutral these days, so there's always gonna be one side bitchin about how "unfair" it is and i highly doubt there's ever gonna be a mutually approved moderator

 

[DW4_2016]

I assume this is a joke, right?

Biden was hidden in a basement last presidential cycle. His handlers refused to put him in the spotlight knowing he'd embarrass himself. The result: we now have a president who is clearly suffering from dementia. No problem though right? HIs handlers will act as president in his stead. When the debates did occur the panel was stacked with liberal sycophants and democratic donors. They echoed liberal talking points in their questions and constantly interrupted the Republican candidate. It was an embarrassing display of bias in what is suppose to be a fair and balanced debate format.

Hillary was given the debate questions prior to her debate with Trump. Yeah no cheating there right?

Debates will still happen, but an organization more worthy and unbiased than the CPD will get to host them.

mass formation psychosis

 

[scotchtiger]

the problem is there's no one that is completely neutral these days, so there's always gonna be one side bitchin about how "unfair" it is and i highly doubt there's ever gonna be a mutually approved moderator

Maybe tag team Joy Reid and Tucker Carlson?

 

[dpic73]

Maybe tag team Joy Reid and Tucker Carlson?

Maybe my memory is bad but did former Republican Presidents/candidates pre-Trump complain about debate formats? Seems to me this is all about protecting Dear Leader from being questioned about the alternate universe he inhabits.

 

[moradatiger70]

Select quotes from this interesting article:

"During the 2020 debates, many people saw then-President Donald Trump abuse his opponent, the moderators, and the rules. But in the Trump Cinematic Universe, Trump was victimized by the unfair mainstream media, a group expanded to include Chris Wallace, a nearly two-decade star of Fox News’s Sunday-morning show."

"You might think that a presidential debate would be the place to hash out such differences. But what the RNC is saying with its vote is, Unless we know in advance that a debate moderator believes in the same version of reality as we do, we will not participate at all. The only people who are unbiased are the people who already agree with us."

"Debate organizers may now try to appease the RNC, but the effort may well only make an already tense situation worse. If you believe that Chris Wallace is biased against Republicans, whom would you regard as an acceptable alternative? Joe Rogan? Tucker Carlson? Alex Jones? Russian state TV’s Vladimir Solovyov? Maybe the only way to satisfy TCU fans is to just let Trump interview himself for 90 minutes, to be followed by a panel applauding Trump and ridiculing his rival?"

"One of the defining features of the TCU is that its fans are not all that interested in political issues per se. TCU fandom is about political representation: how issues are described, how issues are perceived. That’s why “the media” is such a powerful target in TCU discourse, never mind the obvious paradox that the TCU is itself a media creation. The core grievance is, “I don’t like what I’m hearing and seeing in the external world beyond the special enclave I inhabit.”

The End of Presidential Debates

Only those conversant with the pro-Trump right’s myths and legends will be able to decipher the Republican National Committee’s latest decision.

www.theatlantic.com

Non-biased article. Thanks!

 

[dpic73]

Non-biased article. Thanks!

David Frum is a conservative Republican who was also George Bush's speechwriter. He coined the phrase "axis of evil" But I get it, unless you believe the election was stolen, you're biased if you write an article like this.

 

[nytigerfan]

David Frum is a conservative Republican who was also George Bush's speechwriter. He coined the phrase "axis of evil" But I get it, unless you believe the election was stolen, you're biased if you write an article like this.

David Frum is deep state!

 

[moradatiger70]

David Frum is a conservative Republican who was also George Bush's speechwriter. He coined the phrase "axis of evil" But I get it, unless you believe the election was stolen, you're biased if you write an article like this.

There you go. If we don't agree with something, you think the election was stolen, you are a Trumpublican, you're a trader.
Frum is now an editor for The Atlantic (hmmm) and contributor to MSNBC (bigger hmmm).

Not sure what you are trying to prove. I agreed that trump was a total jackass at the 2020 debate, but I also think that some debate reform is necessary, so carry on.

 

[dpic73]

There you go. If we don't agree with something, you think the election was stolen, you are a Trumpublican, you're a trader.
Frum is now an editor for The Atlantic (hmmm) and contributor to MSNBC (bigger hmmm).

Not sure what you are trying to prove. I agreed that trump was a total jackass at the 2020 debate, but I also think that some debate reform is necessary, so carry on.

"traitor"

Why can't you just admit that you no longer trust traditional Republicans? And what's the problem with being on MSNBC? CNN also has Republicans that serve as panelists because they want to present a variety of opinions. Other than Austan Goolsbee and a random Democrat that they think is dumb, who does Fox put on?

 

[moradatiger70]

I suck at typing and auto-correct sucks too, but thanks for your continued markups. I'll continue red-lining yours as well.

Fox has a hand full, I from what I remember, don't watch very often.

You think MSNBC will apologize or retract anything for running these same news stories?
https://clemson.forums.rivals.com/threads/whipping.237512/

 

[dpic73]

I suck at typing and auto-correct sucks too, but thanks for your continued markups. I'll continue red-lining yours as well.

Fox has a hand full, I from what I remember, don't watch very often.

You think MSNBC will apologize or retract anything for running these same news stories?
https://clemson.forums.rivals.com/threads/whipping.237512/

I'm not an apologist for MSNBC so I can't answer that, but that has nothing to do with the well-written article you claim is biased. I look forward to your corrections. 😂

 

[moradatiger70]

I'm not an apologist for MSNBC so I can't answer that, but that has nothing to do with the well-written article you claim is biased. I look forward to your corrections. 😂

You asked what the problem was for being on MSNBC and I gave you the reason. They push false narratives.

 

[dpic73]

You asked what the problem was for being on MSNBC and I gave you the reason. They push false narratives.

Got it. Now do FOXNEWS

 

[moradatiger70]

Got it. Now do FOXNEWS

I'll let you, since you seem to have that notion.

 

[WapPride]

Tulsi gabbard is on fox all the time

Following that logic I guess she’s now a republican

 

[moradatiger70]

Tulsi gabbard is on fox all the time

Following that logic I guess she’s now a republican

Did you even follow her presidential run?

 

[nytigerfan]

I'll let you, since you seem to have that notion.

Chris Wallace on leaving Fox News...

“I’m fine with opinion: conservative opinion, liberal opinion,” Mr. Wallace said in his first extensive interview about his decision to leave. “But when people start to question the truth — Who won the 2020 election? Was Jan. 6 an insurrection? — I found that unsustainable.”

But Mr. Wallace also acknowledged that he felt a shift at Fox News in the months after Donald J. Trump’s defeat in 2020 — a period when the channel ended its 7 p.m. newscast, fired the political editor who helped project a Trump loss in Arizona on election night and promoted hosts like Mr. Carlson who downplayed the Jan. 6 riot.

He confirmed reports that he was so alarmed by Mr. Carlson’s documentary “Patriot Purge” — which falsely suggested the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was a “false flag” operation intended to demonize conservatives — that he complained directly to Fox News management.

 

[dpic73]

Tulsi gabbard is on fox all the time

Following that logic I guess she’s now a republican

Who knows what that freak is

 

[moradatiger70]

MSM now says they think you should continue wearing mask on planes. According to them, the mask mandate judgement was a legal decision not a public health decision and the science is still there.
What Hacks!

 

[DW4_2016]

MSM now says they think you should continue wearing mask on planes. According to them, the mask mandate judgement was a legal decision not a public health decision and the science is still there.
What Hacks!

they're actually not saying that. they're asking experts who are saying that. there's a difference between news and editorialization.

 

[dpic73]

MSM now says they think you should continue wearing mask on planes. According to them, the mask mandate judgement was a legal decision not a public health decision and the science is still there.
What Hacks!

Did you know the judge was a Trump appointed, Clarence Thomas acolyte that the ABA deemed not qualified? Do you really think she had the public good in mind with that ruling?

I saw some posts from parents who were onboard flights with immunocompromised children when they announced over the PA that masks could come off.

Masks suck, I get it, but when you're sitting shoulder to shoulder with people who could become severely ill in that setting, at the very least they should have given some notice so people could plan accordingly.

 

[moradatiger70]

Did you know the judge was a Trump appointed, Clarence Thomas acolyte that the ABA deemed not qualified? Do you really think she had the public good in mind with that ruling?

I saw some posts from parents who were onboard flights with immunocompromised children when they announced over the PA that masks could come off.

Masks suck, I get it, but when you're sitting shoulder to shoulder with people who could become severely ill in that setting, at the very least they should have given some notice so people could plan accordingly.

So now any trump appointed judge's ruling should come into question?
That was bad on the airline, there should have been consideration if that was the case.

 

[dpic73]

So now any trump appointed judge's ruling should come into question?
That was bad on the airline, there should have been consideration if that was the case.

"deemed not qualified" were the operative words. Basically someone hand-picked by Trump not because she was well qualified but because she would do his bidding.

Many, many flights did this - there are videos all over the internet. The ruling took effect immediately with no notice.