Don’t listen to @Cocks are Number 1 hes as ignorant as they come. Too many of those types on this board
Will there be college football? A new flurry of pessimism has arrived
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Their way of thinking? This is a reporting article dude. Not an opinion piece
Unbelievable how many are so firmly entrenched on this situation which we’ve never seen. But many too stubborn to just admit we don’t know a lot, and we’ll see how it goes. That’s all this article is saying but you are too stubborn or ignorant to admit it
What’s interesting about this virus is that once you get it, you develop the antibody and won’t get it again. That’s what makes it different, and the vaccine they are developing should give us the antibody too.
you will always get the flu and cold and will come back over and over.
Read this link and hence why they do phase trials
https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/26/moderna-vaccine-candidate-trial-participant-severe-reaction/
I'm so glad you are so willing to sacrifice someone else's health or life.
what's interesting is they do not know that yet, or at least it has not been proven. We think that is how it will be based on historical evidence of previous corona viruses, but we do not really know.
Some of you guys are like a stencil copy of each other, and your chorus of anger is in perfect step. Your plan won’t accomplish the goal. Time will show it.
The common sense logic of this data is very difficult for some to digest. It’s pretty simple.
If anyone with an underlying condition ventures out into a situation which puts them at this kind of risk, the liability is 100% on themselves. Stop with the self righteous shaming.
Don’t give me a number of positive tests. Give me number of hospitalizations.
That’s actually pretty funny given that when I was working for suburban LA newspapers while a student at UCLA, I was simultaneously working in the press office of the Senate campaign of SI Hayakawa. He ran as a conservative Republican.
Yeah, even conservative Republicans can be assertively for a free press. In fact, if they aren’t, they really aren’t conservatives at all.
I hope we can play the season, but it's really hard to see a path to that right now.
On another note, just because people may not be dying doesn't make it not serious. Who is cool with spreading something that potentially has repercussions down the line in the form of permanent lung damage? And I suppose hospital stays are just whatever?
I know a lot of you have staked your claim that this is no big deal and people should stop worry about it. I agree that worrying won't fix anything, but being careful never hurt anyone. I promise no one will think less of you if you decide to change your minds and agree that this may be just a little serious.
On another note, just because people may not be dying doesn't make it not serious. Who is cool with spreading something that potentially has repercussions down the line in the form of permanent lung damage? And I suppose hospital stays are just whatever?
I know a lot of you have staked your claim that this is no big deal and people should stop worry about it. I agree that worrying won't fix anything, but being careful never hurt anyone. I promise no one will think less of you if you decide to change your minds and agree that this may be just a little serious.
You’re so angry you came at Larry f’in Williams dude
Of course people believe it’s serious but we also trust the medical experts surrounding the team. I don’t think anyone is being forced to play against their will. I believe that a majority of the players and their parents think based on the information we have readily available that this age/health demographic can practice and play safely given the very low risks based on the actual data. If the situation changes the leaders in the AD will take corrective measures.
I’m personally sending kids to colleges this fall including Clemson knowing the risks involved. I know Clemson leadership will do everything possible to put student safety first.
That being said I know there will be positive cases on campuses this fall and my kids could contract the virus. As a parent I believe the risks to this age group are very very low or I would not send my children back to school.
Millions of Americans are going to make the same decisions this August sending their kids back to school.
IF they have an underlying health condition they could just as easily die at practice. Just sayin’
Wait, just screen every athlete for everything and our problems are solved!
Wait, just screen every athlete for everything and our problems are solved!
You called that anger... lol. I’ve not been angry about anything in years... life is great here.
Telling the truth doesn’t constitute as “anger”... you’re just part of the soft and sensitive crowd. Gotta be tough.
True. Absences at positions where quality depth is an issue would suffer the most.
apparently you don’t understand the distinction between a free press and a biased press.
Plus he exhibits huge racist tendencies. He probaly agrees with that loser Georgia teaching assistant, that promoted violence against whites. Hopefully that dude loses his job.
I assume you're in favor of electing a President who's in the early stages of dementia. Makes sense.
Any national championship this year would be tarnished if the top teams are hit with an outbreak during the season and lose a game or two thus resulting in a team winning the natty who may not be the best team under normal circumstances. There are all kinds of issues in playing and not playing...just a real mess.
I'm expecting the worst. If we get a season, then great. My question surrounds players like Trevor and ETN. If there is no season, does that mean we have seen their last games at Clemson? Will they come back if given the opportunity?Will there be college football? A new flurry of pessimism has arrived
By: Pete Thamel - Yahoo! Sports
In the wake of the Clemson’s football team’s 23 positive COVID-19 cases becoming public on Friday, a rip current of uncertainty is rippling through college athletics.
Around the country, the fear among administrators of not playing football in the fall – or having a season rife with interruptions and canceled games – has emerged stronger than at any point in the last month.
One industry source summed up the tenor as one of “overall discouragement.” Another college athletics industry source told Yahoo Sports there’s been “more pessimism the last few days than in weeks.” The source added that the negative feelings have transcended athletics, as college presidents are again concerned about the prospect of in-person classes being held.
With college athletes having been allowed to return to campus for voluntary workouts for nearly three weeks, the real-time complications of testing, tracing and quarantining athletes have been exponentially more complex than many expected. The chain reaction of positive tests and quarantining those they’ve been in contact with for 14 days has put in context how daunting it will be to eventually workout, practice and play games.
The past few weeks have reaffirmed the lack of a consistent national plan, the economic disparities for medical equipment among the FBS schools and the amount of overall difficulties in executing a season.
“I’m way less convinced we will play [football] than I was a few weeks ago,” one athletic director told Yahoo Sports.
One FBS coach summed up his uneasiness with the risks and complications this way: “I think there will be people who’ll be playing football. I just don’t know for how long or how much.”
The last 72 hours has seen the 23 positive tests at Clemson, 13 positive tests at Texas and Kansas State pausing voluntary workouts for 14 days after 14 positive tests. The University of Houston also paused voluntary training last week after six positive tests when the school didn’t test athletes upon return.
Multiple sources stressed to Yahoo Sports that while Clemson’s numbers are an anomaly in what has been reported, it isn’t the only school with both large outbreaks of positive tests and even bigger numbers in quarantine. Sports Illustrated reported on Saturday afternoon that at least 30 LSU players have been in quarantine. Many others appear to be in similar situations.
Yahoo Sports reached out to more than 20 athletic directors, coaches and administrators in the aftermath of the Clemson news to gauge what the flurry of positive test numbers mean for the sport’s future.
The responses showed a pall of pessimism cast over the sport and underscored the difficult balance of health concerns, the financial pressures on football being played and the awkward optics of amateurism.
“It’s a Rubik’s Cube of how you’re moving through all this,” Clemson athletic director Dan Radakovich said in a phone interview. “It’s very difficult right now. I almost think it’s part of the process to get us where we need to be.”
College football was always going to be the hardest sport to figure out a way to return. The amateur and academics elements tied to the sport – no matter how much eyes may roll at those notions – meant that a bubble scenario like in pro sports simply couldn’t exist. The locker room and contact elements also mean daily challenges.
Those coaches and administrators that flashed optimism about the season mentioned the inevitability of players catching the virus and schools figuring out ways to work through it. Statistically, there have been few deaths in the 15-24 age bracket from COVID-19. But that doesn’t necessarily limit the risks.
“If we’re going to have this season, we need to get comfortable being uncomfortable,” said another FCS coach. “I think most people in college football came into this eyes wide open, not assuming we’d ever hold the number of positives to zero but do our best to mitigate the spread.”
While there’s risk a player could have an undiagnosed medical condition that’s exacerbated by the virus, there’s still significant risk of exposing the virus to older staff members.
“Until we have medicine that gives people confidence about resuming activities or we get comfortable enough where we don’t flinch every time we see a new case count, it’s going to be hard to play,” said Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin. “It’s like every nerve is exposed on this topic.”
It’s worth noting that some of the factors scaring coaches and administrators when they peek ahead to the season may change and evolve. The quarantine period may shrink from 14 days. The intensity of contact tracing may lessen as knowledge increases. There’s still much to learn about the virus, and in many ways schools are working with a set of evolving facts and rules.
Can things change before teams begin to formally gather in July? Eight hours of conditioning, weight training and film review begin for most schools on July 13. (For those handful of schools playing in Week 0, that date is July 6.) There’s a gradual ramp-up from there, which will morph to more formal practices. As players gather for practice, the risk of spreading the virus among teammates only increases.
Multiple coaches stressed one of the keys to winning this season will be avoiding outbreaks and not having to forfeit games because of an in-season outbreak. Coaches are realizing the risk of large swaths of the roster missing two-week chunks of the season.
“None of us are even practicing right now, and we’re still having to quarantine dudes,” said a third FBS coach. “It’s only the middle of June. Maybe in July we’ll have an answer of what happens during practice. Right now, we don’t have an answer what to do if this happens in fall camp.”
The athletic directors that appear at the biggest disadvantage managing the virus are those at schools that cannot afford consistent and widespread testing.
One Group of Five athletic director said he’s budgeted a half-million dollars for testing. Athletic directors at wealthier schools have committed up to $2 million.
That athletic director said that as of now it’s taking five days for that school’s tests to return. “The whole key for us to have a football season is rapid testing,” he said.
He explained that the ability to test and find the results quickly would help limit quarantine time after contact tracing because they’d have answers more readily available whether players have tested positive or not.
A coach at the Group of Five level said he felt uncomfortable about the optics of amateur players being subjected to the bubble-like conditions that may be needed to have a successful season.
“There are only 10 to 12 programs that can really afford all the testing and medical attention the NFL is giving guys,” the coach said. “These players aren’t independent contractors. They are 17-to 21-year olds with no union representation. No one is fighting for them.”
The most uncomfortable subject for administrators and coaches is the potential death of a player. There are concerns about pre-existing conditions that the virus can exploit and exacerbate. So far around college football, there’s been no positive case that’s publicly known that’s led to a player on a ventilator or gotten seriously ill. But what do administrators do when that image emerges?
With a dizzying flurry of cases the past few days, there’s no reason to think that the numbers will stop or slow. And for those in college athletics, it’s a reminder that they’ll be walking on a high wire in their attempt to execute a season the next six months.
“This is going to be a very bumpy landing,” said a Power Five athletic director. “We haven’t even brought back all our teams. And this is the most controlled setting. There’s no one else on campus.”
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why would they come back? Trevor would be the no 1 pick in the next draft and ETN would be a first round pick.
Not sure what you exactly mean by it hasnt been proven. This is why they are taking plasma from recovered patients and using it to assist current covid patients.
The vaccine may not be as beneficial as it could end up being an annual shot like the flu vaccine they develop every year.
Thank You LSU.
I am glad you published your numbers before Thamel hit the publish button. He had to throw their numbers in buried somewhere deep when most people are supposed to stop reading. It is funny that DRad is the major person who actually went on record instead of being anonymous.
just funny that the reigning NC with higher numbers are buried in the article and Clemson the runner up is headlining it with 20% fewer numbers.
I am glad you published your numbers before Thamel hit the publish button. He had to throw their numbers in buried somewhere deep when most people are supposed to stop reading. It is funny that DRad is the major person who actually went on record instead of being anonymous.
just funny that the reigning NC with higher numbers are buried in the article and Clemson the runner up is headlining it with 20% fewer numbers.
In addition to dementia, I think Trump has Parkinson’s disease. So, no, I won’t be voting for Trump. Btw, that was some million man march in Tulsa! Got to hand it to those Tik-Tok Teens. They owned him big time!
Are you suggesting that Larry Williams is biased against playing football in 2020? Because that is how the logic of your argument plays out.
I honestly don’t know how you play football next year. We play GT to start the year. What if a player on GT tests positive the Mon\Tues after our game. What does that do to our players who may have been in contact with the player the weekend before?
what happens if one out OL tests positive in a game week. He is ineligible to play. They then do the contact tracing and the entire OL room has been in meetings with that player and have potentially been exposed. Is the entire OL now ineligible?
what happens if one out OL tests positive in a game week. He is ineligible to play. They then do the contact tracing and the entire OL room has been in meetings with that player and have potentially been exposed. Is the entire OL now ineligible?
once they're dead we'll worry. after all it's not you going out there and risking anything, right?
That’s a personal attack and unfair assumption. I’m sending a child to Clemson this fall to live in the dorms, eat in the cafeterias, go to classes and have a college social life. She will be subject to many of the same risks of virus transmission as the players but with far less direct medical and professional supervision. I think the possibility that she gets infected this fall is pretty likely.
If I thought this risk of this virus was very high for serious illness for younger, healthier people then I certainly wouldn’t send my own child there. Nor would I expect Clemson players to play this fall.
With over 2.2 million cases there is a ton of data that supports that this virus has a very very low risk of serious illness, hospitalization or death for younger healthier people. There is a ton of data that backs that up. If a young person has diabetes, hypertension, immune disorder, etc then my thinking is very different.
If any of the players or their parents feel the risk is too great then I would support them not playing.
I know that many college athletes and their parents at Clemson and at other schools understand the risks involved and want to play this fall.
Confident that your college age kid wont get it from a football player and then bring it home to you or your partner? Hope you don't have any elderly parents living because they would be at risk if you had to go help them in an emergency situation. And just like that it can affect someone you care about. how about we all wear the gd mask and this can be over. imagine how infuriating it must be for donnie that New Zealand did better than us at the response to this. New Zealand
I’m confident that my daughter will be safe at Clemson. I trust the leadership at the school and know they are doing everything they can to promote student safety. But I also know her health history and am confident that if she contracts the virus she will be ok. I feel the same way about our players. But if a player wants to sit out for health reasons it’s their choice. I wouldn’t denigrate them for making that choice. From what I hear a vast majority of the players want to play and the parents want them to play.
On a personal level We wear masks around grandparents and anyone over the age of 65 to protect them and certainly wouldnt visit if showing symptoms. I would think our players and students would do the same.
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