I believe they are all alone, but they do elect a jury Foreman. Not sure if that is before the trial or before deliberation. @tigerbean ?
In SC the Judge selects the Foreman I believe based on what the Judge said at the beginning of the trial.
I believe they are all alone, but they do elect a jury Foreman. Not sure if that is before the trial or before deliberation. @tigerbean ?
And in fact the jury selected their own foreman and he had to inform them that he makes the selection. They didn't understand. That was last week I think.In SC the Judge selects the Foreman I believe based on what the Judge said at the beginning of the trial.
When I've been on a jury before, we were just in a room together (with one of us picked as the foreman/woman) and a sheriff or something just stood outside the door. No one else was in there with us.I believe they are all alone, but they do elect a jury Foreman. Not sure if that is before the trial or before deliberation. @tigerbean ?
Wow that is damning
I've watched bits and pieces today and he keeps talking in circles and the more he talks the more he digs his hole deeper. This is a great example.
Personally I think Murdaugh is coming across better overall to the jury than Waters. However, he's been on the stand for hours since yesterday and is missing many chances to loudly inject his innocence. Were I on trial for murdering my wife and child, I'd be saying over and over "regardless of things I've forgotten or misstated, and regardless of this fancy technical BS, there's one thing I know for sure -- I did not kill my loved ones".Somebody like Alec Murdaugh has to be absolutely convinced that there is no god, no authority, or no ultimate accountability for his actions. Completely convinced that he can lie enough, obfuscate, and aw-shucks his way to getting away with anything. It’s crazy.
Judge Newman selected a foreperson and they were like we already have one - he said no you don'tWhen I've been on a jury before, we were just in a room together (with one of us picked as the foreman/woman) and a sheriff or something just stood outside the door. No one else was in there with us.
Yeah the only time I've been selected for a jury, the judge picked me as foreman because I had came from my office and had a shirt and tie on - learned my lesson on that one...Judge Newman selected a foreperson and they were like we already have one - he said no you don't
Alex has been in the a public light for quite awhile now. He has never seemed to me to be a smooth or the least bit of a convincing talker. Nothing about his conduct has seemed to me to be that of an experienced lawyer. Others have said he was a 'devoted father and husband and was loyal to his family'; nothing about his conduct from way before the boat wreck has seemed to be that of a devoted father, husband and loyal to his family. He has seemed to me to be less believable every step of the way than Susan Smith was.I certainly think Alex pulled the trigger, or had a big hand in planning/involved in this.
But some things that don't add up to me:
Alex is an experienced lawyer and smooth talker. So he knows what it would take to get off and cover his tracks. So why were there some simply mistakes made:
- Why not clean up the gun shells? Maybe dark and couldn't see them?
- If he took Maggie's phone, why drop it near the property?
- If he had the mindset to take Maggie's phone, why not take Paul's too? Because Paul's phone is proving to be the main piece of evidence against Alex (video).
He is coming across better than Waters IMO.Personally I think Murdaugh is coming across better overall to the jury than Waters. However, he's been on the stand for hours since yesterday and is missing many chances to loudly inject his innocence. Were I on trial for murdering my wife and child, I'd be saying over and over "regardless of things I've forgotten or misstated, and regardless of this fancy technical BS, there's one thing I know for sure -- I did not kill my loved ones".
He is coming across better than Waters IMO.
Mags Bennett? Where's Dewey Crowe?Here we go with the “Mags, PawPaw, and Bus” comments.
I would agree yesterday. Waters has owned him today IMO.He is coming across better than Waters IMO.
Waters has kicked his ass pretty good today.I would agree yesterday. Waters has owned him today IMO.
Yeah Waters led him right to it and then showed the video of the same lie before any of the "reasons" AM had stated were the reason he "lied".Nice finish. Debunked AM's theory of why he lied.
Agreed. That was well doneNot sure if it will matter over the long haul, but how he played AM like a fiddle with that last sound bite made for a helluva dramatic moment.
I see a father that did everything to protect his son by then the state claims he blew his brains out. Those don’t add up and without hard evidence that he had a gun in his hands and pulled the trigger, I would be a not guilty verdict. To me half this evidence does nothing to move the needle to he pulled the trigger.Alex has been in the a public light for quite awhile now. He has never seemed to be a smooth or the least bit of a convincing talker. Nothing about his conduct has seemed to me to be that of an experienced lawyer. Others have said he was a 'devoted father and husband and was loyal to his family'; nothing about his conduct from way before the boat wreck has seemed to be that of a devoted father, husband and loyal to his family. He has seemed to me to be less believable every step of the way that Susan Smith was. Why in the world would some think it would be hard for this habitual liar, thief, drug abuser, con artist who did not mind deal with crooked bankers and other crooked lawyers, the guy who rushed in to start a fixit it effort for his son after a boating accident, to have killed his wife and his son? What sort of armor does he have that so many see him as better than he obviously is and has been for quite awhile?
What is it about AM that seems to lead some to see positive attributes in his person? Is it because he is rich, prominent in a small SC town, and a lawyer? The whole of the man seems 'off' to me.
This is not my line of thinking but I wonder if someone on the jury doesn't believe someone could continue to tell the same lie over and over and over again because they themselves wouldn't be able to.100% hung jury IMO...consistent behavior by Murdaugh throughout the cross examination. Unfortunately, Murdaugh "out lawyered" Waters.
I see a father that did everything to protect his son by then the state claims he blew his brains out. Those don’t add up and without hard evidence that he had a gun in his hands and pulled the trigger, I would be a not guilty verdict. To me half this evidence does nothing to move the needle to he pulled the trigger.
I see a father that did everything to protect his son by then the state claims he blew his brains out. Those don’t add up and without hard evidence that he had a gun in his hands and pulled the trigger, I would be a not guilty verdict. To me half this evidence does nothing to move the needle to he pulled the trigger.
100% hung jury IMO...consistent behavior by Murdaugh throughout the cross examination. Unfortunately, Murdaugh "out lawyered" Waters.
Don't assume all of the jurors are competent. I just think he did a good enough job to put doubt in at least one of the jurors.No competent person would say he isn’t guilty.
Yes and you want to make a bet that at least one person on that jury feels the same.So considering he was there when it happened, had motive, and lied about everything he did that evening, you think he didn't kill them?
Yes and you want to make a bet that at least one person on that jury feels the same.
I haven't watched today. Did he actually say there was a 5'-2" vigilante there with them? Or was he speculating that's who did it after he went to the house?I would have asked the question, "So you admit to spending your life lying to people over at least the last decade, but the one thing you want this jury to believe is that an unknown 5' 2" social media vigilante was with Maggie, Paul, and you that night?" 🤣