My family was just discussing this and my answer is Hell No!!! If he took that many pills he’d be dead.
⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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I don’t think it was as bad as he was stating. I also don’t believe he’s going to be found guilty. Prosecution is getting into a pissing match burying his integrity which is in no doubt, nonexistent, but they haven’t proven he killed them. The Glove doesn’t fit.
We use a jury of 12 people to determine a verdict in courts of law. As I understand it, the jury as a whole is charged with making a consensus decision on guilt or innocence. The jury is supposed to be a deliberative body. The jury as a whole is charged with deciding guilty beyond a reasonable doubt or innocence. I like that system. It is a shared system of responsibility.
You may be correct that this trial ends in a hung jury. It only takes one narcissist to obstruct justice and produce a hung jury. AM is a narcissist. A casual look at any long thread on TI shows the world to be full of narcissists who often advocate and stick with darn fool points of view in the face of overwhelming evidence.
I am not a juror in this case and have not seen or heard all the evidence. Not sure what I would think, do or say if I were a juror and had committed the time and effort to carry out my responsibilities. I will accept the verdict and move on whatever the jury decides.
But 3 people were there for sure at the time of the murders and only
1 of them is alive today. Murdaugh had motive, opportunity and he has repeatedly lied about what happened, about what he did and where he was. Guilty would be justice in my outsiders view.
However that vote goes, I hope AM spends the rest of his life behind bars for all the crimes he has committed.
Murdaugh has never done one sensible thing to assist law enforcement in finding the person(s) who killed his wife and son. I think most know exactly why that is.
3 people were there when Paul and Maggie were murdered. Only 1 is still alive. Even Buster will figure this out eventually.
This thread is enough of a sample size - hung jury, unfortunately.
That man guilty as sin and will self destruct sooner or later. This verdict won’t be the last of his headlines.
That man guilty as sin and will self destruct sooner or later. This verdict won’t be the last of his headlines.
I'm not a doctor, but I see no way he could take 60-70 oxy a day. He would be a zombie. I've never taken oxy, but that's 4 an hour every hour that he is awake. I imagine if you took that many aspirin or ibuprofen that would make you sick.
I’m thinking the same thing. So that leads me to believe he was actually a dealer or something of sort.
I would imagine someone taking the amount of pills he claims would be very skinny and sickly looking. As I’ve stated earlier the man looked like a dang Oompa Loompa.
I have a hard time with the motive. I was 100% believing he was dead guilty, but the performance he delivered shut down the prosecutor IMO. If doubt was raised in my mind, I feel very comfortable believing there will be a hung jury. I think AM played the prosecutor like a fiddle.
If we were betting money as if it were football game, the smart money might all be on a hung jury. I have said as much. But the object here is justice under the law.
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As much as I dislike the guy, he did an incredible job of acting genuine. I guess he had someone do the deed. I think the jury will be hung. If not, I don't know if I've ever seen a defendant that took the stand do a better job. It may be to no avail, but IMO he couldn't have done a better job. It was a good risk he took testifying.
Similar to OJ Simpson, (who I believed was guilty) AM will likely be acquitted on the murder charges. Also like OJ, AM will serve time in jail for another crime.
AM is more concerned in "saving his reputation" than jail time. The majority believe he's guilty regardless of conviction and his life is the real world version of Ozark. He has tarnished his name forever.
As for the Mags & PawPaw murders, God knows what happened. Whoever the murderer is (AM, I think you), he will meet up with God one day and answer for these crimes.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I was just stunned that he did as well as he did on the stand. I thought both Harpootlian and Griffin were douche bags.
He was there at least very, very close to the time of the murders. He lied about his alibi. His guns were the murder weapons. The clothes he was wearing shortly before the murders(and most likely during them) are no where to be found- this is one of the most damning things to me. IF some alien from outer space swooped down and murdered them right after he left, maybe there would be things he could not know/explain. However, there is simply no explanation for not knowing what happened to the clothes you were wearing right before your wife and son were murdered.
Any idiot can see he was protecting the family name, not (just) the son.
What is my bias? You know I make a living reading people, and IMO I saw no tell-tale signs re body language or losing his composure to lead me to believe that he was lying. It is quite a conundrum to me.
Tis a wee bit late for AM to save his rep. I think it might be 20 years too late.
If he wholeheartedly wanted to help solve the murders of Paul and Maggie he would have provided as much info as possible to nail down the time of death as much as possible. He didn't try to help them because he didn't want them to find the murderer, him.
Pathological liars aren't affect by telling lies. They are so accustomed to it that they can do it with ease.
Not picking on you, but people like you are the reason Alex was able to steal for so long. You eat from his palm, evidence be damned.
Motive is clear, IMO. But the state does not have to prove motive.
Sooooo, your not guilty vote will be based on your evaluation of AM's acting ability? Odd but ok.
We are all sitting in the cheap seats here with no responsibility at all. My cheap seat says AM killed his wife and son, perhaps while taking 60 oxycontin pills a day, but I am not impressed by a rich guy with a ton of money killing his wife and son.
Others of us in the cheap seats have decided the trial of AM for killing his wife and son is a good time to stand up against the government and vote not guilty and so let one guilty basterd go free rather than hanging him high.
I have great confidence in your ability to read people. I do think you might be a tad short on reading justice. Not 5'2 short, just a tad short. You know I have said for while that a hung jury seems the most logical outcome. I am cheering for justice.
(BL is helping me figure this justice thing out tonight. He is also helping me with my spelling.
Do you think Alex Murdaugh, a former assistant PROSECUTOR, is so outrageously stupid that he hired someone to kill his family WHILE HE WAS ON THE PROPERTY?
I mean Jesus. If it's hired, he's in Vegas when it happens. An 8-year-old can connect those dots.
If I was on the jury and had to deliberate with such nonsense hypotheticals, I would just absolutely lose my mind.
That’s a new theory to me. I haven’t heard that there are those that want to stand up to the government so they will vote a certain way in a trial.
That’s interesting.
BL? Look, I am not as smart as you...that's a given. I'm just saying from the perspective of reading people, AM has done a heckuva of job in his defense. It's truly remarkable IMO. I don't know how I'd vote if I was on the jury. I just think there are one or two of the jurors that will vote to acquit. If the entire jury are of the mind that a rich guy should pay regardless of guilt or innocence, he will be acquitted. He's not a good guy. I understand that.
No. That would be stupid. If he hired someone he would be in Miami or Houston. Anywhere but Mossell.
You're not very good at this.
Like someone said earlier if he wasn't the killer then he would have thought it happened AFTER he left but BEFORE he got back thus helping law enforcement as much as possible. Since he claimed he wasn't the killer he would have NO REASON to lie.
What the hell is this for. If you sort it by date, you will see it is a misdemeanor for Alex. But for what? Lying in court?
| MURDAUGH, RICHARD ALEXANDER | White | Male | 54 | 02/24/2023 | South Carolina Law Enforcement Division | ||
| Warrant: Misdemeanor Arrest warrant 2023a1510100048 issued by Colleton, SC; Arrest Date 02/24/2023; Additional Hold for South Carolina Law Enforcement Division; Arrest Date 02/24/2023; |
I don’t see how defense attorneys on obvious guilty murder charges like this can sleep at night.
I don’t know why it bothers me so much, but I just have zero respect for them.
Thanks for connecting the dots. You're probably right and it's perjury. AM spit in the face of SLED today and admitted he lied to law enforcement. Pretty sure that's a bad idea.
Heard it was possibly for contraband, when a relative handed him a book????
