NoDid I hear correctly in the video that Alex admitted it was him?
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NoDid I hear correctly in the video that Alex admitted it was him?
The judge sounds like he wanted the death penalty for Alex. He understands why they didn’t pursue it but it sounds like he wants it.
Alex and PeeWee were the most evil . Smith was a moment of insanityGaffney Strangler
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Did I hear correctly in the video that Alex admitted it was him?
Larry Eugene BellWhere does AM fall in the Infamous Killers of SC rankings:
A few I can think of:
Susan Smith
Pee Wee Gaskins
PawPaw Murdaugh?
Who else?
Doing my best to help.....has been a GREAT threadI look forward to seeing this thread reach another milestone later today ...
It’s really frustrating to me that if he’s as clearly guilty as the jury found him. Just over an hour to convict. We should be able to go back and get the death penalty.yep he sure as hell does
I think in any case for people like Alex, it is likely a case of both nature and nurture. His brain was wired with the ability to not care about right/wrong. For some with this problem, nurture and societal norms override/manage their behavior. With Alex, his family's status and lifestyle did the opposite and kicked those base emotions into high gear. His life early on allowed his mind to confirm whatever he did was okay bc there were never any negative consequences to this actions- the opposite in fact.I think he realized, especially when Alex decided to take the stand, that he was representing one of the worst human beings to walk this earth.
Alex doubled down on his ability to do the most damage to the most vulnerable, people who thought the most of him, and then turn around, look them in the eye, and lie about it. Not showing a bit, not an ounce of remorse.
I’d love to get an explanation or have a study done to see how a person gets to that point, but it has to have something to do with always believing and being taught that you are better than the people around you. I know his family had celebrated their ability to deceive others. Look at how his grandfather was described and how he could come into court and have the ability to manipulate and change the opinions of the jurors present with his use of his words and emotion. They celebrated that.
I thought it appropriate that he was convicted of murder in a courthouse where his family’s “hero’s” pictures were hanging. I think their very behavior played a part in creating the monster that is Alex Murdaugh. One of the worst human beings to ever walk the earth.
It’s really frustrating to me that if he’s as clearly guilty as the jury found him. Just over an hour to convict. We should be able to go back and get the death penalty.
Seems like that should be something that could be argued now with that jury that had such conviction of his guilt.
That sucks. We have to pay for him to live for the rest of his life. He should be taken out like he took his son out.back to back life...he gone
Yea and looks like he is gonna be Alex's personal judge. Said he is assigned al 99 other cases involving Alex . Also said they were gonna get to them and prioritize them (paraphrased)Watched that entire trial. He went big boss on that whole family. Big Newman fan over here.
I'm betting he'll take himself out at some point.That sucks. We have to pay for him to live for the rest of his life. He should be taken out like he took his son out.
I think he knew exactly what he was doing. Exactly.As bad as Paul was, he did not deserve to be killed in such a brutal manner. Also, Maggie's last moments on this earth were sheer terror. I feel so badly for them both. I do not believe Alex could determine reality from fiction based on his massive drug use and the debilitating effects it has on many parts of the brain.
Probably, but either way we are still paying for him to be alive until he does.I'm betting he'll take himself out at some point.
The judge sounds like he wanted the death penalty for Alex. He understands why they didn’t pursue it but it sounds like he wants it.
Life in prison is the easy way out. Shooting him with 4-5 rounds of 300 blackout and two shot gun shells, the last of which puts his brain on a ceiling, seems like the harder way to go out if you ask me.poates6 said:
It’s really frustrating to me that if he’s as clearly guilty as the jury found him. Just over an hour to convict. We should be able to go back and get the death penalty.
Seems like that should be something that could be argued now with that jury that had such conviction of his guilt.
WHY would you give him the easy way out???
Impossible now anyway
This is my point. If a circumstantial case can be decided in 75 minutes, death penalty would have been easy.AM deserves it, but it would be difficult based solely on circumstantial evidence. If they had something else, I'm absolutely sure they would've proceeded with a DP case.
It was very much as you said. What’s crazier is buster nor his uncle showed any either. I’m fact JM chuckled a little with a police officer.I couldn’t watch the sentencing. Any reaction by Alex? I assume not, since he has no soul.
No reaction at allI couldn’t watch the sentencing. Any reaction by Alex? I assume not, since he has no soul.
Where does AM fall in the Infamous Killers of SC rankings:
A few I can think of:
Susan Smith
Pee Wee Gaskins
PawPaw Murdaugh?
Who else?
Probably run the risk of a jury not being as inclined to vote guilty on the death penalty vs a prison sentence...It’s really frustrating to me that if he’s as clearly guilty as the jury found him. Just over an hour to convict. We should be able to go back and get the death penalty.
Seems like that should be something that could be argued now with that jury that had such conviction of his guilt.
This is similar to when I was foreman on a gang murder trial in Charlotte 10 years ago. We took an initial vote, and 2 people, in my opinion, had an unrealistic understanding of reasonable doubt. We took an hour discussing the evidence, and how there is no other rational explanation other than guilty, and they came around in an hour. Putting somebody away for life can be difficult unless you are 110% certain, but you're never 110% certain unless you see them on video doing it.Interesting to hear 8 guilty, 3 not guilty and 1 undecided was the jury’s first vote and how they were unanimous after only 45 minutes
Don't forget about this one...Alex and PeeWee were the most evil . Smith was a moment of insanity
I understand that. I also understand it was politically motivated cause a guilt verdict but then a no on death penalty doesn’t play as good as just the guilty verdict does today.Probably run the risk of a jury not being as inclined to vote guilty on the death penalty vs a prison sentence...
Probably run the risk of a jury not being as inclined to vote guilty on the death penalty vs a prison sentence...
I think he will find a way to kill himself
He will never kill himself.
If there existed even an ounce of tendency for him to do that, he'd have taken his own life instead of murdering his family.
I think he will find a way to kill himself
As high profile as he is, and considering his background??? I’m willing to bet that if he does commit suicide, he will be violently suicided once he gets to prisonI'm betting he'll take himself out at some point.
I understand that. I also understand it was politically motivated cause a guilt verdict but then a no on death penalty doesn’t play as good as just the guilty verdict does today.
If he can be found guilty in an hour after a 6 week trial, the state should absolutely have gone for the death penalty.
In criminal cases where a conflict arises from the circuit solicitor, typically those cases are either taken on by the AG's office or assigned to another circuit solicitor. This case should have been conflicted out from the very beginning, and Mr. Stone will have to answer as to why that didnt happen.Probably a different take....I think he is definitely guilty and am glad that justice was served, but I had a weird vibe from that press conference from the prosecution team. I get it was a long and complicated case but the attorney general came of as arrogant and wanting to create a charade. Almost like it was for political purposes.
Also bringing in ALL these resources at the states expense, a whole team of outside prosecutors instead of the local whose jurisdiction it is to prosecute. You say that Alex is just like everyone else and not above anyone or the law but then this case is treated like he is. Other double homicides in the area I am sure are not bombarded with the resources at the state and federal level like this one was. Are those families not worth this kind of effort?
I will be the first to admit that I do not know the ins and outs of the legal process, just a layman's opinion from the outside.
Also, I am sure there are tons of good people at SLED that do great work but the constant over the top praising of them them made me queasy. Chief Keel was fined not even a week ago for withholding discovery that would show he lied to a judge when he destroyed a local farmer's crop.
Anyway....looking forward to the next TI MEGA THREAD!
maybe you are right but he loved his lifestyle so much I could see him doing it
Well, you have to think, he’s a mockery to the very system the judge represents. It would be like being a cop and having your partner, who took the same oathes you did to protect the badge, stealing and killing in the name of the law.Judge Newman gave him two … TWO … opportunities to come clean. Liar to the end.
It also sounds like … “reading between the lines” … that if the Death Penalty was on the table, Judge would’ve given it too him x 2