You could use that argument in most murder cases. He sounds guilty to me.The defense keeps stating that a father couldn't logically kill his wife and kids like that. My question is which of his actions made logical sense during that time?
He had been scamming people out of millions. He was a drug addict. He "staged" his own suicide. His story has reportedly changed. This was desperate man. Where is the logic in an attorney with extensive knowledge of the legal system doing any of that?
Id like to know where cousin Eddie was at the time. Real logic would suggest the guy willing to "shoot" AM would also be willing to shoot his family if asked.
I will say that I don’t feel the prosecutor is as professional as Harpootlian. Maybe I’m just never in a courtroom but it seems he relied too much on theatrics and emotional appeal instead of reason. Is that normal? Just seems like you said and that he doesn’t have the hard evidence he needsAfter thinking a bit on the opening statements I got the impression that much of the prosecution will be relying on a good bit of circumstantial evidence, although it could be quite compelling. OTH the defense wants to question 'why would a loving father/husband do just a heinous execution?'.
Buckle up boys and girls.
Is Creighton Waters the prosecutor?I will say that I don’t feel the prosecutor is as professional as Harpootlian. Maybe I’m just never in a courtroom but it seems he relied too much on theatrics and emotional appeal instead of reason. Is that normal? Just seems like you said and that he doesn’t have the hard evidence he needs
Yeah that was the one area I thought Harpootlian slipped up. Said his car was a couple hundred yards away. You’re hearing all those gunshots from a couple hundred yards and not just “leaving to check on ma”There is no way he could have slept through the shots. Why start off lying if you are innocent? He might get off, but like OJ, he is responsible.
It think Poot’s story is that the murders happened after he left.Yeah that was the one area I thought Harpootlian slipped up. Said his car was a couple hundred yards away. You’re hearing all those gunshots from a couple hundred yards and not just “leaving to check on ma”
yesIs Creighton Waters the prosecutor?
Went to high school with him. Haven't seen him since. I wish him luck.
Wasn't it you that posted just yesterday that you had no idea that this case was even going on? Now you're giving editorial opinions? LOLHe sounds guilty to me but that’s because I listened to the news media. That’s what they do. I’ve never heard the news media defend any citizen. They do that to politicians they like, not citizens.
But that was before I heard the defenses opening statements. Now im not sure.
It’s weird how we trust the media when we want to. Wild just how much persuasion they have over the public. 2020 showed us that, I guess.
Going in, thought he was guilty and shouldn’t be long at trial. Now, I don’t know. Going to have a hard time proving he did it. Otherwise, he’s presumed innocent.
No, different guy. LoL Good try thoughWasn't it you that posted just yesterday that you had no idea that this case was even going on? Now you're giving editorial opinions? LOL
Will still be shorter than the penny stock threadOn page 72 now. Where will it be in the end. Over/under 144?
He used the timeline of him supposedly only having 12 mins to get from the scene, changed, in his car and leaving. Don’t remember him ever implying they were murdered after he left but I could’ve missed it.It think Poot’s story is that the murders happened after he left.
I misconstrued one of your previous posts about never hearing of the family before, my apologies.No, different guy. LoL Good try though
Just say you disagree
You’re right. I forgot that.He used the timeline of him supposedly only having 12 mins to get from the scene, changed, in his car and leaving. Don’t remember him ever implying they were murdered after he left but I could’ve missed it.
That twelve mins is the time between her phone going silent and his text to her saying he’s leaving
It’s ok. It’s just a backhanded way of saying, I disagree. That’s all.I misconstrued one of your previous posts about never hearing of the family before, my apologies.
Please carry on with any editorial you wish! lol
Thanks to all for today’s commentary.
I think it is interesting that some people do not think the CFP selection process is a good enough method to pick the right 4 teams to decide the National Champion in football. And yet most of us are ok with a jury of peers deciding guilt or innocence in a murder trial.
He orchestrated a blatantly fake armed robbery of himself in which he suffered a gunshot wound scratch. I’d say he is very much a bumbling idiot.I'm curious for those who believe this is how it happened....what was the motive to commit all the financial crimes he did over the years. I don't believe he thought he would get away with it. Of all his faults, I don't think it was a bumbling idiot. This just reeks of desperation to me and IMO there is zero chance these weren't tied to the murders.
Ukraine needs a few more billions. That’s what I saw on the news today. Oh, and we’re sending tanks to help as well.Seems like there was little to no coverage of the trial today on cable news or broadcast tv. I know there were several options on streaming platforms and channels but nothing on cable. Shocking to me. I thought opening statements would have been covered live by cable news but apparently not. So this trial will not be as big as OJ…
Not at all. I don't agree or disagree with you.It’s ok. It’s just a backhanded way of saying, I disagree. That’s all.
I know, I’m joking. I don’t know what to think.l other than I was 99% sure this dude did it until I heard the defense. Now I’m not sure.Not at all. I don't agree or disagree with you.
Lol good point.He orchestrated a blatantly fake armed robbery of himself in which he suffered a gunshot wound scratch. I’d say he is very much a bumbling idiot.
He’s guilty of a lot of things it seems. To me, they painted the picture it’s going to be hard to prove that he’s guilty of killing his family in that manner, in that time frame and never had any notice of it. No GSR, nothing on his clothes, searched his house the night of. Two different guns used in a very short time and no sign of either. No witnesses. Its not impossible that he didn’t do it either. Seems to be the same amount of evidence.I'm really surprised so many people think he may get off after hearing more evidence. All 12 assume he was innocent when they got there, every juror has heard of this case, and now we find out he took detailed steps to try to cover his tracks. If innocent, why was he trying to cover anything up?
This is how a defendant’s guilt/innocence should be decidedAgreed. I would much prefer a computer algorithm over a selection committee
The justice ⚖️ system works only if the constitutional protections are followed. I think we have a fair judge, the attorneys are ready, and the process appears to work. The jury decides the facts, the judge applies the law, and the outcome is to be determined. I'd want nothing more or less for AM than I'd want for myself if ever I'm indicted.He sounds guilty to me but that’s because I listened to the news media. That’s what they do. I’ve never heard the news media defend any citizen. They do that to politicians they like, not citizens.
But that was before I heard the defenses opening statements. Now im not sure.
It’s weird how we trust the media when we want to. Wild just how much persuasion they have over the public. 2020 showed us that, I guess.
Going in, thought he was guilty and shouldn’t be long at trial. Now, I don’t know. Going to have a hard time proving he did it. Otherwise, he’s presumed innocent.
He had help it seems but still did it.He’s guilty of a lot of things it seems. To me, they painted the picture it’s going to be hard to prove that he’s guilty of killing his family in that manner, in that time frame and never had any notice of it. No GSR, nothing on his clothes, searched his house the night of. Two different guns used in a very short time and no sign of either. No witnesses. Its not impossible that he didn’t do it either. Seems to be the same amount of evidence.
That’s pretty tough
I agree on all of these.The justice ⚖️ system works only if the constitutional protections are followed. I think we have a fair judge, the attorneys are ready, and the process appears to work. The jury decides the facts, the judge applies the law, and the outcome is to be determined. I'd want nothing more or less for AM than I'd want for myself if ever I'm indicted.
Correct.Just to be clear, this is just a trial for the murders correct? None of the financial stuff is included?
That’s going to make it hard for the prosecutor to use as motive. Of course that’s all conjecture as wellCorrect.