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As of yesterday there were 15,226 people in the US hospitilized

Just shows your lack of knowledge, which really doesn't surprise me at all.
Yes I assumed NC governor was Republican and thought they were as backwards thinking as SC. Trump has made the decisions to shut down from the federal standpoint and certainly not for political reasons because it is an election year. The media did not shut down the economy the politicians from both sides did.
 
If you’ve been paying attention, “hospital beds” are not the relevant metric

# of ICU beds with a ventilator is the bottleneck
There are excess generators now. U don’t want to be put on ventilator unless it is sure death not to. I think I read about 80% of people that get put on one don’t recover. That’s not good odds.
 
Just shows your lack of knowledge, which really doesn't surprise me at all.
Nope. NC Governor Cooper is a Democrat and is doing everything he can to drag his feet on opening businesses back up, but it’s not political.
 
Sorry. Just not true.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

Hospitals are losing tons of money right now. Lots of layoffs and salary cuts.
Right. Because the virus isn’t what we are led to believe unless you live in NY City, Chicago, New Orleans or Detroit. Hospitals are upside down because the took the bait and closed down most of their money makers in anticipation of thousands of Covid cases. Where are they? My Pastor said that our local hospital, Hendersonville, NC where there are thousands of retirees, has had exactly 16 Covid cases and that it was basically empty. Just passing along some facts.
 
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But there too there is a significant surplus. In fact, we are sending ventilators to other countries. Also ironically, many healthcare workers are being furloughed.

A sense of proportionality has clearly not set in yet.

BOSCH! We need Bosch to come solve this case!
 
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Have you looked into local (US) companies making them? I'm thinking companies that work with cloth but don't make gowns. I know that's not an easy thing to do but it might be a solution.

The tragedy here is if we don't learn our lesson and source some of this stuff from places outside of China. Even if it's not the US - India, Phillipines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Mexico - SOMEWHERE.

dude we’ve looked into every possibility possible. We has every single person working on this. I’ve had zoom meetings at 3:30 in morning with people in China and I don’t do shit with purchasing. I’ve learned more about this process, importing, fda standards, how to tell real from fake than I ever cared about trying to help my clients get what’s needed.

only good things it’s shown my clients I am willing to do whatever it takes to help. But it’s exhausting and my liver hates me more than normal.

We would love to source inside the border but we can’t. Maybe regardless of political affiliation people will realize we are way too reliant on China and it’s true the trade deal with them sucks ass. They are fvcking us...plain and simple. All the margins companies have gained sourcing plants in China to manufacture over the years are going out the window right now. It’s a sad day...and who knows how long even the strongest companies can survive paying cash up front for necessary items.

This shit is gonna kill way more companies, way more people than the virus ever thought about. And small business’ will disappear...big business will dominate and our government will be ran by who lines who’s pocket the most
 
Better check those mask. We had 200 ordered from China that got confiscated by feds because they were counterfeit. Legit N95 are hard to come by right now. The SCDA is scrambling right now for mask. Luckily we got 100 few weeks ago after the other debacle.


Earloop and KN-95 don’t fall under the same category but yes!! You have to do proper research and verification. As I’ve said before in here... lots of fake and unverified products making the market. No different from fake Ray Bans...looks like it, branded like it, documents say it is...but you HAVE to ensure it is what it says it is
 
Isn't Trump in charge of the country and aren't the SC and NC governor Republicans?


Aren’t the states and areas with the worst outbreak, death totals, and results run by Democrats? Weren’t they spending so much time bashing Trump they were negligent in their areas...I mean California magically found 39 million N95 after the outbreak was crazy. Ventilators were accessible when NY governor said they were not...after telling everyone NY was safe

the fact of the matter you can point fingers at whoever you want but a few things you can’t

1. the lack of supplies has nothing to do with anyone in office today or even Obama
2. The media hysteria on death rates was way overplayed which scared everyone
3. The numbers are not accurate at all
 
What % of American adults have underlying conditions / morbidity factors? I'd say at least 50% of the country is either: old, obese, immunocompromised, pregnant, diabetic, has hypertension, or has heart or lung disease. I think that's part of the issue with the dialogue...people are accurately saying "no big deal, this thing really doesn't impact you if you're totally healthy and have no underlying conditions..." not mentioning that a huge part of our population doesn't fit in that category. I'm not saying I'm opposed to re-opening the economy / states in a smart, phased way (monitoring hot spots, using testing and tracing, etc) so healthy people can get back to work / back into the chain of commerce, etc..., but I am saying many people don't view the big picture all that clearly.

If nothing else comes of this disease, I hope it’s a wakeup call to the country that most of our citizens are fat unhealthy slobs and that it is a genuine public health (and you could argue national health care) emergency.
 
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To be fair, the WHO also praised China’s response, and then a month later did a 180 and
If nothing else comes of this disease, I hope it’s a wakeup call to the country that most of our citizens are fat unhealthy slobs and that it is a genuine public health (and you could argue national health care) emergency.

Yea there's zero chance that happens. We are the country of fast food and trans fat. Six weeks of lockdown ain't going to change that.
 
Aren’t the states and areas with the worst outbreak, death totals, and results run by Democrats? Weren’t they spending so much time bashing Trump they were negligent in their areas...I mean California magically found 39 million N95 after the outbreak was crazy. Ventilators were accessible when NY governor said they were not...after telling everyone NY was safe

the fact of the matter you can point fingers at whoever you want but a few things you can’t

1. the lack of supplies has nothing to do with anyone in office today or even Obama
2. The media hysteria on death rates was way overplayed which scared everyone
3. The numbers are not accurate at all
My response was in regards to other posters saying all this is purely political and that if this wasn't an election year the country would already be back to normal. I disagree. It certainly doesn't benefit Trump to have shut the country down so he didn't do it for political reasons obviously. I am not blaming Democrats or Republicans as they all were flying by the seat of their pants at first. They all made mistakes and I inaccurately said the NC governor was a Republican. Trump made way too many inaccurate statements to the American people and he did play it down big time at first and still contradicts himself constantly. He should let the medical experts and Pence communicate with the publicso that the information is more accurate and consistent.

You nor I have no idea if the numbers are accurate. There is a case to be made either way. I would think they are relatively accurate certainly more so than China LOL.

The areas hardest hit are the ones with the highest population density. NY, NJ, MA are living on top of one another. CA with their massive population looks like they have handled it very well for the most part.

The politicians did not take the advice of the media. They supposedly listened to the medical experts before shutting the country down. In my opinion there are a lot of people who have overreacted and panicked and a lot of people who haven't taken it seriously enough. I am usually somewhere in the middle and took it more seriously after the first few weeks. Hopefully we can get this past this, minimize the number of future deaths, and get back to as close to normal as possible.
 
My response was in regards to other posters saying all this is purely political and that if this wasn't an election year the country would already be back to normal. I disagree. It certainly doesn't benefit Trump to have shut the country down so he didn't do it for political reasons obviously. I am not blaming Democrats or Republicans as they all were flying by the seat of their pants at first. They all made mistakes and I inaccurately said the NC governor was a Republican. Trump made way too many inaccurate statements to the American people and he did play it down big time at first and still contradicts himself constantly. He should let the medical experts and Pence communicate with the publicso that the information is more accurate and consistent.

You nor I have no idea if the numbers are accurate. There is a case to be made either way. I would think they are relatively accurate certainly more so than China LOL.

The areas hardest hit are the ones with the highest population density. NY, NJ, MA are living on top of one another. CA with their massive population looks like they have handled it very well for the most part.

The politicians did not take the advice of the media. They supposedly listened to the medical experts before shutting the country down. In my opinion there are a lot of people who have overreacted and panicked and a lot of people who haven't taken it seriously enough. I am usually somewhere in the middle and took it more seriously after the first few weeks. Hopefully we can get this past this, minimize the number of future deaths, and get back to as close to normal as possible.


I can tell you being in industry and talking to people non-stop I stand by what I’ve said all along. The hysteria was a little extreme, death rates are no where near what it was stated, and hospitals and facilities that properly planned and prepared have kept it under control. Those who didn’t, have had issues. No different than people who have outbreak during a bad flu season. Yes this is worse than the average flu but when the flu hits a facility that’s not prepared there are alarming death rates and horrible results.
 
That's the trick isn't it? If we weren't doing what we are doing what would the hospitals look like? What would the death rate look like? You can't point at the fact that things aren't that bad without taking into account that people are making an enormous effort to see that things aren't that bad. As I once pointed out: You never know what never happened.
Look at all the money we have wasted on seat belts and air bags. Death and injuries from automobile accidents are way down now. What a waste of money...(for those of you not familiar with sarcasm, this is some of it...)
 
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Better check those mask. We had 200 ordered from China that got confiscated by feds because they were counterfeit. Legit N95 are hard to come by right now. The SCDA is scrambling right now for mask. Luckily we got 100 few weeks ago after the other debacle.

They were KN95, not N95
 
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