The people screaming defund police absolutely want to abolish police. It’s not just a “slogan.”
Atlanta has a problem...
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I think he's a ginormous douchebag who needs to learn to STFU more often. I didn't vote him but I will this time. If you're too dumb to see what the MSM has done for the past four years in order to create this orange man bad persona and make themselves filthy rich off of it, then you deserve to yield the rewards of being an absolute moron.
Orange man bad has made people FILTHY rich. Idiots such as yourself engorge yourself on every single ounce of bad pub against the POTUS no matter if it's obviously made up or legitimate. You don't care, you just eat it up. Is some of the bad pub justified? Oh, hell yes. Is he out to serve himself? Sure. Is he out to ONLY serve himself? Based on stories of his past, I don't think so. He's done some good things from r Americans and help create a badass economy.
He's just hated by more people than any other president we've ever had because he doesn't give a shit about the establishment that lifetime politicians on both sides of the aisle have to serve. He got rich before he got to DC as opposed to establishment politicians who get rich off of lying their asses off and enriching themselves off our tax dollars.
I choose to examine the man based on the people who choose to accuse him of corrupt acts. Is he guilty of some of those acts? I'm sure he is. Is he the most corrupt POTUS we've ever had? Holy shit if you're dumb enough to even consider that. He is a fatass slob who will fight tooth and nail to get other countries to pay their fair share regardless of hurt feelings. He sucked dick at times during this covid ordeal. He sucked dick at uniting us when the MSM drove BLM down our throats.
He ain't perfect, but he is sure as shit better than Hillary and wouldn't have sold our country out to the highest bidder like Obama did. He was the lesser of two evils and is the lesser of two evils between Biden and him.
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If Trump's lips are moving, then he is lying.
Agree to disagree then
Who cares if he’s made people wealthy? Money won’t fix the irreparable damage him and his administration are currently doing to our society and our planet. Capital gains won’t matter when an oil pipeline through Alaska spills and destroys the majority of our supply of clean drinking water. New jobs won’t matter when coastal cities are getting destroyed every year due to global warming and climate change. A record high DOW won’t help when there’s civil war in the streets from the Trump administration’s divisiveness. The Trump presidency has taken this country so far backwards it’s going to take a looong time to get back to where we were.
You are entitled to your opinion and your vote. Your vote counts and i respect you as my fellow American. I do not like Donald Trump. He is a liar, a fraud, and a whoremonger. He inherited a very good economy. Just look at what he will inherit now if he wins again and see what he can do with that. He wouldn't sell our country out ? HA. He would whore his mother for twenty dollars. He is toxic. His lawyers go to jail. His best defense is that he cannot be prosecuted because he is POTUS. He has to win this election or he will go to prison.
Yah im pretty sure there have been sane voices on all sides disparaging the riots and looting. Killer Mike comes to mind. Atlanta mayor told people to chill and enacted a curfew with the floyd news.
I'm not sure why Columbus or those others needs me to come to their aid right now.
I'm not sure what the details are of people getting fired for not supporting BLM means. I guess in case you haven't noticed I'm not in your echo chamber. I'd say though that I disagree strongly with that premise and I don't believe that people should be fired for their religious or political beliefs.
It seems to me we can agree on most that stuff and compromise on the other stuff.
Can we now talk about how to actually fix the cops killing people situation?
He hasn't made anyone wealthy. He made the top one percent richer with unnecessary , ill timed tax cuts. His economy did set a fifty year record level of employment for a short period but he didn't inherit the Great Recession like Obama did either.
Its so funny that we have this amazing ability to communicate from all over the world and people spend it virtue signaling and sparring tribal talking points. No one actually has any interest in finding solutions because solutions require compromise, discussion, drive and patience. The internet has broken that ability in the American public.
Cops been killing people is a lie. Let’s see, there were 59 police killed last year. Number of unarmed blacks killed was 14. That’s 4 to 1.
I’ve said it a million times that I’m all for police reform. Demilitarized Police, better non lethal weapons, and getting rid of cops with multiple complaints is a start.
this is not an epidemic though, and the media and left has instigated racial discord by making a crappy situation way worse than it is. There is not a single statistic out there that supports the media narrative that cops are out hunting black men.
reform is needed, but let’s stop with the dramatization because it’s only exacerbating racial issues.
Maybe there is not a single statistic, but there are a bunch of videos, nearly all of which are taken by the citizens.
I think it all comes down to training. Police training is laughably bad in most areas.
Ok thats terrible that any of that happens. I believe I read here a while ago https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2019/topic-pages/officers-feloniously-killed
48 officers were killed 44
I don't really know what to tell you. Maybe just focus on the reform portion and stop worrying so much about your concerns with how things are portrayed.
and those videos add up to 10 unarmed black people dying at the hands of cops last year, during approximately 10-20 million encounters between police and AA. The media sensationalism has everyone fooled, and BLM stands back and gets rich off of lies, and the racial discord gets worse and worse.
haha, yeah, ok, like I said, completely capitulate because statistics mean nothing to us. It’s all about your feelings.
He's toxic for the establishment assholes who preach how bad he is for the country because their pretty little money laundering outfits get zapped: Ukraine, Paris Climate Accord, Climate Change BS, etc.
You are gobbling up a bullshit narrative being pushed by a MSM that is just as invested in the establishment. Take some time to look up how many politicians are married to people that have high up positions in the MSM. Just like they constantly accuse him of diversionary tactics, they are doing the exact same thing to keep you from seeing the truth: the game is rigged and he is the biggest threat to ruining it since JFK. I didn't believe it at first considering how vile of a human being he is, but the widespread pushback has convinced me the past few years.
Every POTUS since JFK has been a puppet for the most part until Trump. He doesn't get pulled by the establishment strings, but still plays the game of cronyism like the rest of the political scum. I'll choose to look beyond his reprehensible characteristics to see that he's the best option we've got at the moment. Joe Biden is establishment garbage and would be an even bigger puppet than Obama.
Allowing his vile and crude nature to guide your decision on what he's accomplished with what he's been given is your right. He doesn't hide his contempt and doesn't ever miss a chance to pay himself on the back. Two characteristics that don't exist in any of the lifelong friends that I have.
I don't care about what condition the chess pieces on the board are in, I just care about what power those pieces possess to keep our country in a strong position to attack or defend when necessary. He is the stronger piece in comparison to Biden. It would have been interesting to see what he could have done if the GOP cared about Americans and not protecting their corrupt honeypots.
The beauty of America is we can agree to disagree and we can get to voice those opinions in a voting booth. Have a great night man.
So in other words, a police officer has a 1 in 15,000 chance of being killed and an unarmed black person has a 1 in 3million chance of being killed. Or in other words it is 200 times more dangerous being a police officer, but let’s take away their power to protect themselves.
You lack the ability to see the whole picture. Is he part of the problem? Sure, but he is a small piece of a much larger puzzle that has been brewing for decades in this country: identity politics.
As to your comments on wealth.... I'm sorry, but your stance is pretty naive and will shift once you finally move out of your mom and dad's house and start paying bills and setting money aside for retirement.
Well I'd say your dismissiveness of the situation is a bit strong. Cops aren't just killing a few unarmed blacks every year. They are also systematically over and under policing them. Writing them jay walking tickets. Stopping and frisking them at a much larger rate. Those things are true and you can look up the stats. No knock raids? Oof. Also yes a few racists sprinkled in and you get a bad rep.
I say decriminalization of drugs is the best first step. That would lower interactions with the police. Better training as well and things could straighten out better for all.
I suggest everyone actually talk to black people about their experiences with the police. Stop worrying about medias portrayl.
There is no political solution to a spiritual problem. Voting our way out of any of this is no longer a solution. The sooner the majority of the good people in this country see that the better.
Maybe we need better training in schools on how not to resist arrest or be confrontational with police? Wouldn't that help? Of the recent cases, 100% would not have been killed if they didn't resist arrest. (we could go with not committing crime or not being under the influence of one or more substances, but I don't think that is the proximate cause).
It would be easy. A fun game in kindergarden. A school assembly or two with a friendly policeman (like I remember when I was a kid)
I've heard that distrust of police is a common theme within the black community. Well, why can't the State come in and rectify it? Mandate classes. Track which kids got those classes. Invite parents (or guardians) and track that statistic too.
We instituted mandatory bussing to solve a problem, why not enact something similar to fix this?
It would be easy. A fun game in kindergarden. A school assembly or two with a friendly policeman (like I remember when I was a kid)
I've heard that distrust of police is a common theme within the black community. Well, why can't the State come in and rectify it? Mandate classes. Track which kids got those classes. Invite parents (or guardians) and track that statistic too.
We instituted mandatory bussing to solve a problem, why not enact something similar to fix this?
Are you being serious?
Don’t waste your time with someone like this. It will won’t accomplish a thing. Get ready for what’s coming.
All I know if anyone supports this type of behavior needs their ass kicked with them.
So what would have happened in the investigations if there had not been any videos in those ten?? What really happened in some of the others where there was no video? In what direction are the beloved stats heading now ?
You and all your weapons you're so proud of? What's coming loser?
He literally beat an officer, AND was armed and fired at the police with his weapon.
Yea you deserve to die
trump may not make it to November. He has lost it. No more just campaigning about, making fun of the democrats while the country runs on auto pilot. No, we have some real work needed now for real problems. Something that a reality tv star is not really cut our for.
Well this rift was created by Obama as well...so blame it on the tv star all you want
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fyak fox news.. fyak fox news. fyak trump......whats wrong with that , it is a protest
I don't understand how the cop in the Atlanta case is getting abused completely unchecked. Even Fox isnt presenting much of a counterpoint.
If the stun gun that the guy stole connects and the officer is incapacitated he can move on to take the real gun and killing the cop.
Yes, theres backup, and yes, the cop probably doesnt need to shoot to kill. But the guy had just slipped two cops and taken a stun gun. All of this happened in like 3 seconds.
It's an unfortunate situation but nothing to be universally condemning the officer the way the mayor and apparently the DA are doing.
Stop resisting arrest. It's not that hard. Should it carry a death sentence? Probably not but the guy putting his life on the line to go to work doesn't deserve this BS.
People are going to be a lot more willing to listen to movements grounded in reason. Burning stuff down for this one is nowhere close to reason.
Why something like that probably qualifies me as a racist in 2020 is beyond me but I guess that's where we are.
If the stun gun that the guy stole connects and the officer is incapacitated he can move on to take the real gun and killing the cop.
Yes, theres backup, and yes, the cop probably doesnt need to shoot to kill. But the guy had just slipped two cops and taken a stun gun. All of this happened in like 3 seconds.
It's an unfortunate situation but nothing to be universally condemning the officer the way the mayor and apparently the DA are doing.
Stop resisting arrest. It's not that hard. Should it carry a death sentence? Probably not but the guy putting his life on the line to go to work doesn't deserve this BS.
People are going to be a lot more willing to listen to movements grounded in reason. Burning stuff down for this one is nowhere close to reason.
Why something like that probably qualifies me as a racist in 2020 is beyond me but I guess that's where we are.
