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COVID UPDATE: What is the truth?

I found the confusion from all sides distressing however based on having taken every vaccine that the CDC recommends for every year since I was born in 1952 and up to my age 70 I felt the odds were better to take the Covid vaccine even with the chances of side effects as EVERY vaccine has side effects

As of today I still don’t know if that was the best choice as I have many family and friends who took nothing and did fine and have some that took vaccine and had issues

Myself I did the whole 9 yards but have stopped at the 3rd as after the second I had off and on cases of mild Covid like 3 if not more times

Can’t say the vaccines did not help or even hurt

Just based on my Covid cases it is not even as bad as a mild cold

I recently took the flu vaccine as catching the flu is a ballbuster

Crazy was my reaction to the flu shot was extremely severe as it caused hell of a pain in my right shoulder and I could hardly use my fingers or arm for weeks

The pharmacist said oops we must have hit a nerve as they did a weird shot location injecting on top of my shoulder instead of in back of my arm

So can’t really say anything plus or minus but can say that with all the vaccines I have taken over 70 years they seem to have worked

That is why I trusted the Covid vaccination although now I am having second thoughts about the safety of it for some people
Totally respect this and completely sympathize with your situation. I have friends and family who also got the shots and they also agonized over the decision. It sucks to be given a choice where either way it feels like it could be wrong.
 
You don't know more than Dr Fauci so your intelligence failed you. You don't understand virology or mRNA better than people who've spent their lives in these fields and they told you the vaccines were safe. They were right- you aren't.

You do understand that their guidance was intended to protect the herd, and not specific individuals, right? So in that context, the experts very well may have been right. They probably were. And yep, I’m not smarter than them about protecting 330M people, most of whom are older or fatter or sicker than my family members.

My responsibility is to my family, not the herd. Our decision was based on very specific health and demographic information that supported it. Fauci and mRNA experts can be right, and so can I at the same time. Because we were focused on solving different problems - 330M mostly overweight, comorbid people vs 4 young healthy people. Fauci didn’t have the capacity or ability to offer individualized COVID treatment protocols.
 
It was the seasonal flu. And Trump told us how to beat it: Get outside and get sunshine and live your lives.

Now, science has proven he was right:


"When we extrapolate our results for vitamin D3 supplementation to the entire US population in 2020, there would have been approximately 4 million fewer COVID-19 cases and 116,000 deaths avoided."

So TDS officially resulted in 116,000 covid deaths in 2020.

When will you sheep wake up? The media is literally killing you. Your politics are literally killing you.

Trump told us what to do, and the dems and media said he was insane and refused.

Now you know you were lied to. Ball's in your court.

It should have been pounded into every American’s head:

- Lose weight (for the majority of the country who are fats). They should have terrified overweight people with the extremely tight linkage between obesity and COVID hospitalization/fatality rates. Free COVID tests and free salads with light dressing for all BMI 30+ !!
- Get outside and be active
- Take vitamins - C, D, zinc, etc.

This isn’t complicated. The people who weren’t overweight, were active and got outside, had excellent vitamin levels and weren’t old (the only one of these outside on an individual’s control) faired very well during COVID.

Being responsible and taking care of your health is the answer. It’s always been the answer. Most Americans don’t take care of themselves. So they need to make up for it with pharmaceuticals.
 
It should have been pounded into every American’s head:

- Lose weight (for the majority of the country who are fats). They should have terrified overweight people with the extremely tight linkage between obesity and COVID hospitalization/fatality rates. Free COVID tests and free salads with light dressing for all BMI 30+ !!
- Get outside and be active
- Take vitamins - C, D, zinc, etc.

This isn’t complicated. The people who weren’t overweight, were active and got outside, had excellent vitamin levels and weren’t old (the only one of these outside on an individual’s control) faired very well during COVID.

Being responsible and taking care of your health is the answer. It’s always been the answer. Most Americans don’t take care of themselves. So they need to make up for it with pharmaceuticals.
That's what would have happened if this was about public health and safety.

Instead, covid was turned into a political weapon.
 
You do understand that their guidance was intended to protect the herd, and not specific individuals, right? So in that context, the experts very well may have been right. They probably were. And yep, I’m not smarter than them about protecting 330M people, most of whom are older or fatter or sicker than my family members.

My responsibility is to my family, not the herd. Our decision was based on very specific health and demographic information that supported it. Fauci and mRNA experts can be right, and so can I at the same time. Because we were focused on solving different problems - 330M mostly overweight, comorbid people vs 4 young healthy people. Fauci didn’t have the capacity or ability to offer individualized COVID treatment protocols.
The recommendation didn't exclude anyone in your family except your youngest. They didn't recommend that only fat people take it because skinny people died as well.

Regardless, you missed the window when it would have made a difference.
 
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Nope. We know about this story.

Several good conservative christians stole someone's diary, sold it to a conservative news outlet, which then made unverified claims about the contents.

This is similar to the laptop. A piece of shit IT guy hacked into someone's personal laptop, then sent the contents to Steve Bannon, Rudy Guliani and more. Then it was sent to the FBI. We have no idea how much the contents were doctored to push a political narrative.
We actually do know. On both fronts.

The diary has been confirmed as well as the contents.

They have had forensic data experts look at the laptop and confirm the data is authentic and has not been tampered with. CBS was the latest to confirm.

But keep on with the misinformation.
 

Read Dr. Dalgleish’s letter below:

Dear Kamran Abbasi,
Covid no longer needs a vaccine programme given the average age of death of Covid in the U.K. is 82 and from all other causes is 81 and falling.
The link with clots, myocarditis, heart attacks and strokes is now well accepted, as is the link with myelitis and neuropathy. (We predicted these side effects in our June 2020 QRBD article Sorensen et al. 2020, as the blast analysis revealed 79% homologies to human epitopes, especially PF4 and myelin.)
However, there is now another reason to halt all vaccine programmes. As a practising oncologist I am seeing people with stable disease rapidly progress after being forced to have a booster, usually so they can travel.
Even within my own personal contacts I am seeing B cell-based disease after the boosters. They describe being distinctly unwell a few days to weeks after the booster – one developing leukaemia, two work colleagues Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, and an old friend who has felt like he has had Long Covid since receiving his booster and who, after getting severe bone pain, has been diagnosed as having multiple metastases from a rare B cell disorder.
I am experienced enough to know that these are not the coincidental anecdotes that many suggest, especially as the same pattern is being seen in Germany, Australia and the USA.
The reports of innate immune suppression after mRNA for several weeks would fit, as all these patients to date have melanoma or B cell based cancers, which are very susceptible to immune control – and that is before the reports of suppressor gene suppression by mRNA in laboratory experiments.
This must be aired and debated immediately.
Angus Dalgleish MD FRACP FRCP FRCPath FMedSci
 
Of course. No matter what, when or why the answer has to be "Its Trumps fault" Wow!!

 
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You do understand that their guidance was intended to protect the herd, and not specific individuals, right? So in that context, the experts very well may have been right. They probably were. And yep, I’m not smarter than them about protecting 330M people, most of whom are older or fatter or sicker than my family members.

My responsibility is to my family, not the herd. Our decision was based on very specific health and demographic information that supported it. Fauci and mRNA experts can be right, and so can I at the same time. Because we were focused on solving different problems - 330M mostly overweight, comorbid people vs 4 young healthy people. Fauci didn’t have the capacity or ability to offer individualized COVID treatment protocols.
Actually I'll have to respectfully disagree with first sentence. Experimenting with biological weapons and then leaking them is detrimental to the herd. To protect the herd, you also don't create dangerous vaccines whose efficacies and side effects are not reasonably known. To truly "protect the herd", you treat the symptoms and let Darwin sort us out. That's how you totally eradicate a plague.

They did just the opposite, and now we've weak hearts and still incidents of mutations. Will they learn from this the next time they unleash another plandemic?
 
The recommendation didn't exclude anyone in your family except your youngest. They didn't recommend that only fat people take it because skinny people died as well.

Regardless, you missed the window when it would have made a difference.

We’re probably not going to agree and that’s fine. But again, understand that they could not give mixed guidance/recommendations and expect the result they were hoping for (broad vaccination). They couldn’t say, “Healthy people under 50, don’t risk an untested vaccine but if you are fat, old or have a comorbidity, you better get it.”

They also thought at the time that the vaccine would indeed stop people from getting COVID and stop people from spreading it. Of course we now know that they (yes the experts) were wrong. That’s undisputed at this point. There are reasons why - mutations, etc - but those should have been anticipated, and therefore the expected effectiveness accounted for.

I had no issue with strong promotion of the vaccine among those at risk. My parents totally should have been vaccinated and they were. But everyone who looked at the data knew that everyone with the profile of my family wasn’t really at risk. Sure there are flukes like with the flu or other infections, but the risk was infinitesimal.

The problem was mandating the vaccine for this group. Vax cards to get in places. Vilification of the unvaccinated. Hopefully a lesson was learned for next time.
 
They did just the opposite, and now we've weak hearts and still incidents of mutations. Will they learn from this the next time they unleash another plandemic?
Sadly, many libs are still dutifully taking any new shot offered to them, despite the fact that 'died suddenly' is now the leading cause of death in an alarming number of places.

This is the price people pay for putting their politics above their health and safety. Hate to see it, but you can't force someone to not be an idiot.
 
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People who got the shot are dying from Covid, what benefit would there be to getting it now that there is data. The entire reason for getting the shot was to make sure you didn’t get the virus, which is now a lie. It changed to if you got Covid, it lessened the symptoms, which is debatable as variants emerged, big pharma couldn’t keep up.

The government gave big pharma a pass on any responsibility when it came to vaccine injury, meaning there can be no lawsuits against big pharma for any injuries and death. The people who got the vax are the sample test group and we’re seeing people who got vaxed, multiple times, dying from Covid.

Where is the benefit from getting it?

I haven’t even touched on Covid origins but that’s brought to you by our tax dollars.
People who were vaccinated for covid might be dying from a new variant, which they weren't vaxed for, than from the one they were.
 
Morning troll
If the gateway pundit says it, I believe it. They are known far and wide for their accurate medical reporting. You win

Imma go ahead and pre-order my casket now.
Going out on a very stable limb. You ride around by yourself in your car, sporting your new art deco mask.
 
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We actually do know. On both fronts.

The diary has been confirmed as well as the contents.

They have had forensic data experts look at the laptop and confirm the data is authentic and has not been tampered with. CBS was the latest to confirm.

But keep on with the misinformation.

Who confirmed the contents of her diary?

You believe CBS news now? CBS "confirmed" the data on the original laptop was legit. They also acknowledge that a lot of the BS circulated in right wing media was added later by someone else.

The only thing incriminating Joe Biden is one email that he was not on or named in. The infamous "big guy" email. If I emailed a friend of yours and told them you are a pedophile, should you be arrested for pedophilia?

Watching the republicans fall over themselves with this laptop is going to be hilarious. Let me grab my popcorn.
 
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Who confirmed the contents of her diary?

You believe CBS news now? CBS "confirmed" the data on the original laptop was legit. They also acknowledge that a lot of the BS circulated in right wing media was added later by someone else.

The only thing incriminating Joe Biden is one email that he was not on or named in. The infamous "big guy" email. If I emailed a friend of yours and told them you are a pedophile, should you be arrested for pedophilia?

Watching the republicans fall over themselves with this laptop is going to be hilarious. Let me grab my popcorn.
There are multiple outlets that have confirmed both. Laptop snd diary. Many of them lib orgsnizations. Politico, CBS, NY Times, NY Post just to name a few. But hey, I get it. You put politics above everything. Including children.

If you are going to do comparisons at leadt compare apples to apples.

If your friends children told you they were being molested by their own father, would you want it looked into?
 
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There are multiple outlets that have confirmed both. Laptop snd diary. Many of them lib orgsnizations. Politico, CBS, NY Times, NY Post just to name a few. But hey, I get it. You put politics above everything. Including children.

If you are going to do comparisons at leadt compare apples to apples.

If your friends children told you they were being molested by their own father, would you want it looked into?

Not one legit news source has confirmed the contents of a diary previously owned by Ashley Biden. Stop lying.

So sad that you losers want to spread lies about a the relative of a politician for political purposes. Shame on you.
 
Not one legit news source has confirmed the contents of a diary previously owned by Ashley Biden. Stop lying.

So sad that you losers want to spread lies about a the relative of a politician for political purposes. Shame on you.
“The FBI has not specifically verified that those pages came from the diary it’s investigating; however, major news organizations, including The New York Times, have reported that the handwritten pages published on the conservative website were “from” Ashley Biden’s diary.”






Shame on you for calling someone a liar without doing a simple search.
 
Let’s keep this train going



Now, you can get angry at me if you wish, but you should really get mad at the media. They could shed some light on everything by just asking questions of Joe and Ashley,

Ask yourself this question. If this had been Ivankas diary, would the media be asking Donald and Ivanka questions? You damn right they would be.
 
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“The FBI has not specifically verified that those pages came from the diary it’s investigating; however, major news organizations, including The New York Times, have reported that the handwritten pages published on the conservative website were “from” Ashley Biden’s diary.”






Shame on you for calling someone a liar without doing a simple search.

Look at the blurb you included here. Notice that the word "from" is in quotes. Why is that? Now go read the actual article in the NY Times. They say that pages of her stolen diary were published on a right wing website. They cannot say though, if all the pages published were from the diary. Again, we have a breakdown in the chain of custody.

Pro tip: try reading beyond just the headlines.
 
Look at the blurb you included here. Notice that the word "from" is in quotes. Why is that? Now go read the actual article in the NY Times. They say that pages of her stolen diary were published on a right wing website. They cannot say though, if all the pages published were from the diary. Again, we have a breakdown in the chain of custody.

Pro tip: try reading beyond just the headlines.
I suggest a little reading comprehension and understanding specifically what you typed.

“Not one legit news source has confirmed the contents of a diary previously owned by Ashley Biden. Stop lying.”

So, whether that is in quotes or not it is refuting exactly what you stated. The contents of the diary previously owned by Ashley Biden have been confirmed by multiple media outlets. Those ARE the contents.

The only thing remaining is to verify handwriting and ask questions under oath. Ypu support that correct? In the interest of children.

Again, why is the media not asking those questions of the Bidens?
 
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I suggest a little reading comprehension and understanding specifically what you typed.

“Not one legit news source has confirmed the contents of a diary previously owned by Ashley Biden. Stop lying.”

So, whether that is in quotes or not it is refuting exactly what you stated. The contents of the diary previously owned by Ashley Biden have been confirmed by multiple media outlets. Those ARE the contents.

The only thing remaining is to verify handwriting and ask questions under oath. Ypu support that correct? In the interest of children.

Again, why is the media not asking those questions of the Bidens?

My statement is still true. Nobody has confirmed the contents. Only that pages were leaked.

But let me get this straight. You believe that Ashley was molested by her father. So you want her to be forced to do a handwriting analysis, and be forced to answer questions under oath in a public forum? All for political gain?

I guess I should not be surprised since you also want to force rape victims to have their rapists' baby.
 
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My statement is still true. Nobody has confirmed the contents. Only that pages were leaked.

But let me get this straight. You believe that Ashley was molested by her father. So you want her to be forced to do a handwriting analysis, and be forced to answer questions under oath in a public forum? All for political gain?

I guess I should not be surprised since you also want to force rape victims to have their rapists' baby.
She doesn’t have to do anything. They can analyze other writings of hers. Yes, based on daddys other sick behaviors I believe she was molested.

Force a person that was molested to write. Oh the horror. But you’re cool with forcing a child to shower inappropriately with daddy. Why? Because muh politics.

I am flabbergasted that there is a pedophile in the whitehouse, and you don’t even think questions should be asked. No, don’t compare the handwriting because THAT is horrific, not the showers.

This should be done to protect children, politics be damned.

What a take.
 
A breakdown in the chain of custody, you say?

Same thing we saw in every swing state the last two elections.

See these libs aren't dumb, they know what's going on, they just ignore stuff that doesn't fit their political spin.
The same swing states that did 2-3 proctology exams on their elections that proved that the votes were correct or that ended up revealing more votes for Biden LOL? Never in the history of this country has an election been investigated so thoroughly, so if you werre really a "patriot" you would move on and accept it. No way in hell do you have evidence of fraud that would have changed the results in any way, shape or form. All you have are the words of a bloated, pathologically lying Orange anus and that's what you choose to believe? No way in hell the MAGAs end up back in power with this kind of reasoning.
 
Sadly, many libs are still dutifully taking any new shot offered to them, despite the fact that 'died suddenly' is now the leading cause of death in an alarming number of places.

This is the price people pay for putting their politics above their health and safety. Hate to see it, but you can't force someone to not be an idiot.
From reading your crap, I agree on that last part.
 
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Who confirmed the contents of her diary?

You believe CBS news now? CBS "confirmed" the data on the original laptop was legit. They also acknowledge that a lot of the BS circulated in right wing media was added later by someone else.

The only thing incriminating Joe Biden is one email that he was not on or named in. The infamous "big guy" email. If I emailed a friend of yours and told them you are a pedophile, should you be arrested for pedophilia?

Watching the republicans fall over themselves with this laptop is going to be hilarious. Let me grab my popcorn.
If your daughter was afraid to get in the shower because you were likely to butt in, your son refers to you as Pedo Peter, I'd say the smoking gun has your fingerprints all over it. 😂
 
She doesn’t have to do anything. They can analyze other writings of hers. Yes, based on daddys other sick behaviors I believe she was molested.

Force a person that was molested to write. Oh the horror. But you’re cool with forcing a child to shower inappropriately with daddy. Why? Because muh politics.

I am flabbergasted that there is a pedophile in the whitehouse, and you don’t even think questions should be asked. No, don’t compare the handwriting because THAT is horrific, not the showers.

This should be done to protect children, politics be damned.

What a take.

Yawn. Showering with your daughter does not make you a pedophile. Showering with your daughter and touching her inappropriately would, but not even in the fake diary pages has that been accused.

Like I said, let the pubs investigate it all. The diary, the laptop. All of it. Drag Ashley biden in for questioning.

It's all BDS.
 
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Not one legit news source has confirmed the contents of a diary previously owned by Ashley Biden. Stop lying.

So sad that you losers want to spread lies about a the relative of a politician for political purposes. Shame on you.
Wait, what? Weren't you the one that said the diary was stolen, and the two that stole it were convicted of theft? If in fact the diary wasn't true, and was a fabrication, I'd say they'd never have been convicted for stealing something that wasn't legitimate. 😂
 
Wait, what? Weren't you the one that said the diary was stolen, and the two that stole it were convicted of theft? If in fact the diary wasn't true, and was a fabrication, I'd say they'd never have been convicted for stealing something that wasn't legitimate. 😂

Read the posts man. I can't have the same conversation with three morons at the same time.

Let's leave it at this, with you and your band of wacky QANONs. @jfegaly @GhostOfMatchesMalone @TigerGrowls get in here.

The republicans control the house. They have the power to investigate anyone they want. Do it. Investigate the diary, the laptop, Biden's dog. Do it all.

We will stand back and laugh at you.
 
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Read the posts man. I can't have the same conversation with three morons at the same time.

Let's leave it at this, with you and your band of wacky QANONs. @jfegaly @GhostOfMatchesMalone @TigerGrowls get in here.

The republicans control the house. They have the power to investigate anyone they want. Do it. Investigate the diary, the laptop, Biden's dog. Do it all.

We will stand back and laugh at you.
I hope you enjoy the show as much as you did the J6 tribunal. Me? I'm getting the popcorn ready. :cool:
 
Yawn. Showering with your daughter does not make you a pedophile. Showering with your daughter and touching her inappropriately would, but not even in the fake diary pages has that been accused.

Like I said, let the pubs investigate it all. The diary, the laptop. All of it. Drag Ashley biden in for questioning.

It's all BDS.
Ummm. See. You haven’t even read the quote.

Showering with daddy, probably inappropriately.

But again, you should welcome….err, be insisting on an investigation if you care as much about children as you do politics.

Unfortunately you will sacrifice the well being of kids to save your politics. It’s gross.
 
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Read the posts man. I can't have the same conversation with three morons at the same time.

Let's leave it at this, with you and your band of wacky QANONs. @jfegaly @GhostOfMatchesMalone @TigerGrowls get in here.

The republicans control the house. They have the power to investigate anyone they want. Do it. Investigate the diary, the laptop, Biden's dog. Do it all.

We will stand back and laugh at you.
Ahhh. There it is again. The dem calling card.

Predictable. Can’t win the debate on merits….call them conspiracy theorists, racists, sexists, insurrectionists….rinse and repeat.
 
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