Dominion Lawsuit against FoxNews

[dpic73]

Now we have the FBI admitting they lied about the COVID origin after supressing it

We have this following the Hillary Clinton abomination of an investigation by the DOJ and FBI

Followed by the FAKE Russian Collusion of Trump with Conspiracy by Democrats FBI DOJ OBAMA MSM to propagate this across the US

Numerous Government Officials with Clearances lying publicly about the laptop being Russian disinformation

FBI and DOJ attacking parents free speech which Chris Wray admitted to as wrong

People supporting pedophile grooming of underage children

So what makes me think that my belief is off base on the fraud in the last election of all the mail in ballots

Of course this list could go on but there are people who will never admit anything even now as the people being confronted by Congress admit they lied

I am waiting for more to come to light

Of course nothing that is hard evidence means anything to the liberals and beartrap minds

Sounds like someone's been mainlining more FoxNews garbage

• The FBI didn't admit to lying about anything because no one knows where COVID actually originated, even now. They assessed with LOW CONFIDENCE that it came from a lab but other govt. agencies haven't signed off on that.
• What does Hillary or Democrats have to do with the Collusion investigation? Did you even read my post above with comments from Trey Gowdy and the actual filing for what started the probe? The dossier only led to ONE FISA warrant, that's it!
• Government officials said the laptop had the markings of Russian disinformation - they didn't firmly assess that it was. But what does it matter since it didn't implicate Joe in any crimes?
• NOBODY supports pedophile grooming you senile twatwaffle! The f is wrong with you?
• Your belief in election fraud is misplaced because they've done a thorough proctology exam on the election, unlike any other election in our history and they have found NO WIDESPREAD FRAUD! Even your main source of disinformation FoxNews doesn't believe it.

In other words, you have no hard evidence of ANYTHING other than your fake belief that Hillary and Hunter Biden are responsible for all the world's problems. Without them, who would you blame? Take another nap Pappaw, your mind is getting feeble.

 

[WapPride]

Now we have the FBI admitting they lied about the COVID origin after supressing it

We have this following the Hillary Clinton abomination of an investigation by the DOJ and FBI

Followed by the FAKE Russian Collusion of Trump with Conspiracy by Democrats FBI DOJ OBAMA MSM to propagate this across the US

Numerous Government Officials with Clearances lying publicly about the laptop being Russian disinformation

FBI and DOJ attacking parents free speech which Chris Wray admitted to as wrong

People supporting pedophile grooming of underage children

So what makes me think that my belief is off base on the fraud in the last election of all the mail in ballots

Of course this list could go on but there are people who will never admit anything even now as the people being confronted by Congress admit they lied

I am waiting for more to come to light

Of course nothing that is hard evidence means anything to the liberals and beartrap minds

Your brain fascinates me. It's almost as scrambled as Growls'

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Sounds like someone's been mainlining more FoxNews garbage

• The FBI didn't admit to lying about anything because no one knows where COVID actually originated, even now. They assessed with LOW CONFIDENCE that it came from a lab but other govt. agencies haven't signed off on that.
• What does Hillary or Democrats have to do with the Collusion investigation? Did you even read my post above with comments from Trey Gowdy and the actual filing for what started the probe? The dossier only led to ONE FISA warrant, that's it!
• Government officials said the laptop had the markings of Russian disinformation - they didn't firmly assess that it was. But what does it matter since it didn't implicate Joe in any crimes?
• NOBODY supports pedophile grooming you senile twatwaffle! The f is wrong with you?
• Your belief in election fraud is misplaced because they've done a thorough proctology exam on the election, unlike any other election in our history and they have found NO WIDESPREAD FRAUD! Even your main source of disinformation FoxNews doesn't believe it.

In other words, you have no hard evidence of ANYTHING other than your fake belief that Hillary and Hunter Biden are responsible for all the world's problems. Without them, who would you blame? Take another nap Pappaw, your mind is getting feeble.

You are truly unique to the tribe

I commend you on maintaining and supporting positions I would never in my wildest imagination or my worse state of mind even begin to align myself with

please keep accusing me of being me

I love my whiteness , waist line at my age, conservative Christian beliefs, Political beliefs that equality beats equity , meritocracy beats entitlement, compassion and kindness beats liberal handouts without a path to independence, tough love is sometimes the best instead of that
unconditional without borders control freak thing

The good news is one day you are going to be just like me

Don’t live in fear of it happening

Embrace it as it creeps into every pore of your body

Yes one day you will be like me

My son and daughter said they would never be like me and I laughed as I told my mom and dad the same thing

And look at me now dead ringer

Watch that Progressive Commercial and let in the good as the bad flows out grasshopper LOL

 

[dpic73]

You are truly unique to the tribe

I commend you on maintaining and supporting positions I would never in my wildest imagination or my worse state of mind even begin to align myself with

please keep accusing me of being me

I love my whiteness , waist line at my age, conservative Christian beliefs, Political beliefs that equality beats equity , meritocracy beats entitlement, compassion and kindness beats liberal handouts without a path to independence, tough love is sometimes the best instead of that
unconditional without borders control freak thing

The good news is one day you are going to be just like me

Don’t live in fear of it happening

Embrace it as it creeps into every pore of your body

Yes one day you will be like me

My son and daughter said they would never be like me and I laughed as I told my mom and dad the same thing

And look at me now dead ringer

Watch that Progressive Commercial and let in the good as the bad flows out grasshopper LOL

And I'm damn glad we have different positions since I'm always right. I'm still waiting on your apology for calling me crazy over the Kevin McCarthy/Jan.6th post.

When will you learn?

 

[TigerGrowls]

Months before Fox News, HBO aired voting machine allegations in a documentary. It wasn’t sued

A 2020 HBO documentary highlighted allegations that Dominion voting equipment is vulnerable to hacking.

justthenews.com

Dominion sues Fox News for $1.6B for reporting voting machine allegations, gives HBO a pass​

A 2020 HBO documentary highlighted allegations that Dominion voting equipment is vulnerable to hacking.

While Dominion Voting Systems is suing Fox News for $1.6 billion for defamation for reporting on allegations its voting machines were hacked and flipped election results in the 2020 presidential election, the company hasn't taken legal action against HBO for a 2020 documentary detailing the alleged vulnerabilities of its machines.

HBO's "Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America's Elections" includes interviews with politicians, cybersecurity experts and hackers discussing issues with voting machines. Released in March 2020, the documentary is still available to watch on HBO Max.

One of the hackers interviewed, Harri Hursti, successfully hacked a Diebold Election Systems voting machine in a 2005 test and changed the votes in one step without a trace, according to an April 2020 Forbes article about "Kill Chain."

A 2006 documentary called "Hacking Democracy," which showed Hursti's hack, aired on HBO multiple times, according to the 2006 film's website. The documentary was nominated for an Emmy award in 2006.

Before the documentary's premiere, Diebold asked HBO to pull "Hacking Democracy" from its schedule or, failing that, prominently run a 30-second disclaimer with each airing acknowledging that HBO had not verified the accuracy of the film's claims and referring viewers to a Diebold rebuttal on the HBO website. Diebold said Hursti's purported hack of one of its machines had been proved to be a "complete sham."

Diebold was bought by ES&S in 2009, and then Dominion in 2010.

"None of the vulnerabilities found by Hursti were ever fixed" after Dominion bought Diebold, wrote Forbes contributor Jody Westby, noting that those "same machines" were "planned for use in 20 states in the 2020 election."

The 2020 documentary covers various ways an election can be tampered with, including machine malfunction, changing votes and voter registration records, and causing issues with voter check-in equipment, according to the Forbes article.

According to Forbes' review of "Kill Chain," former Air Force cyber analyst Jake Stauffer, who tested ES&S and Dominion voting systems for the state of California, says in the film that he found that Dominion's Democracy Suite voting equipment has vulnerabilities that allow for off-line ballot tampering, denial of service attacks, and remote code execution. "How can a vendor sell a voting system with this many vulnerabilities?" he asks.

On Dominion's fact-check page, it cites a claim by the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency that there "is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised" in the 2020 election.

Despite the many allegations of Dominion machines' vulnerabilities leveled in HBO's "Kill Chain," Dominion never filed a lawsuit against HBO.

Dominion declined to comment.

Meanwhile, in Dominion's ongoing legal battle with Fox News, the media outlet and its parent company Fox Corporation this week filed their opposition briefs to Dominion's summary judgment motion, arguing the plaintiff is attempting to redefine the First Amendment.

File
PUBLIC VERSION - FC's Answering Brief in Opp to SMJ.pdf
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PUBLIC VERSION - FNN's Answering Brief in Opp to SMJ [Final].pdf
"Dominion's lawsuit has always been more about what will generate headlines," Fox News said in a statement Monday, "than what can withstand legal and factual scrutiny, as illustrated by them now being forced to slash their fanciful damages demand by more than half a billion dollars after their own expert debunked its implausible claims.

"Their summary judgment motion took an extreme, unsupported view of defamation law that would prevent journalists from basic reporting and their efforts to publicly smear FOX for covering and commenting on allegations by a sitting President of the United States should be recognized for what it is: a blatant violation of the First Amendment."

Dominion filed its own opposition brief on Monday to a motion for summary judgment filed by Fox News, and responded to the media company's First Amendment claims in a statement.

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2023 02 27 REDACTED Dominion's Answering Brief in Opp to SMJ.pdf
"Dominion is a strong believer in the First Amendment and its protections," according to Dominion's statement on Monday. "As long-settled law makes clear, the First Amendment does not shield broadcasters that knowingly or recklessly spread lies."

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

And I'm damn glad we have different positions since I'm always right. I'm still waiting on your apology for calling me crazy over the Kevin McCarthy/Jan.6th post.

When will you learn?

And I'm damn glad we have different positions since I'm always right. I'm still waiting on your apology for calling me crazy over the Kevin McCarthy/Jan.6th post.

When will you learn?

I am going to suggest something I find works for me. Please consider attending more church. Praying each morning and evening. Moderate your diet to more of fresh and healthy. Drink more water and less colas. Volunteer your time to community service. Treat children and older folk with compassion and kindness. Stay off the internet more. To put this into perspective TI is the only site I am on. No twitter, Facebook etc. as people are too engaged in the internet demon. Attend public meetings and in person in a civil manner explain your ideas and positions.

Just sharing and hope you can find some nuggets that might be of value to you.

Blind squirrel finding the nut exercise. Happy hunting !

 

[dpic73]

"We know what to think of Fox News hosts and executives. But what about the audience? All of us indulge the urge, at least sometimes, to hear news that confirms our own views. What Fox’s audience must grapple with is that choosing news is not like other consumer choices. It’s not like choosing country music in preference to hip hop or preferring Android over iOS. Getting the truth from a news source is more analogous to getting the straight story from your doctor or financial adviser or home inspector. If your financial adviser told you what you wanted to hear rather than the truth, you’d have a legal case. He or she has a professional responsibility not to mislead you. If your doctor assured you that your skin lesion was benign because he thought this would be more welcome than the news that it was melanoma requiring immediate treatment, the doctor would be guilty of malpractice and you wouldn’t thank him. When Fox News and its competitors lie to viewers, they are endangering not their physical health but their civic health and the good of the nation.

For decades, conservatives longed to get the whole story into the national news, but by demanding agreeable fiction instead of accepting complex fact, they have embarrassed themselves and undermined the case—still relevant—for fair and balanced coverage."

Please Lie to Me, Tucker

Fox News isn’t news at all.

www.thebulwark.com

 

[TigerGrowls]

"We know what to think of Fox News hosts and executives. But what about the audience? All of us indulge the urge, at least sometimes, to hear news that confirms our own views. What Fox’s audience must grapple with is that choosing news is not like other consumer choices. It’s not like choosing country music in preference to hip hop or preferring Android over iOS. Getting the truth from a news source is more analogous to getting the straight story from your doctor or financial adviser or home inspector. If your financial adviser told you what you wanted to hear rather than the truth, you’d have a legal case. He or she has a professional responsibility not to mislead you. If your doctor assured you that your skin lesion was benign because he thought this would be more welcome than the news that it was melanoma requiring immediate treatment, the doctor would be guilty of malpractice and you wouldn’t thank him. When Fox News and its competitors lie to viewers, they are endangering not their physical health but their civic health and the good of the nation.

For decades, conservatives longed to get the whole story into the national news, but by demanding agreeable fiction instead of accepting complex fact, they have embarrassed themselves and undermined the case—still relevant—for fair and balanced coverage."

Please Lie to Me, Tucker

Fox News isn’t news at all.

www.thebulwark.com

What a load of excrement! First of all the actual Fox News reporting unit is right down the middle. Guys like Brett Baier and others have me cussing at the TV routinely with some of the stuff they spew because of disagreement. The personalities on at night from 7pm to 11pm are airing opinion based shows and are separate from the news division and you are trying to conflate these two separate units to advance your argument.

 

[dpic73]

What a load of excrement! First of all the actual Fox News reporting unit is right down the middle. Guys like Brett Baier and others have me cussing at the TV routinely with some of the stuff they spew because of disagreement. The personalities on at night from 7pm to 11pm are airing opinion based shows and are separate from the news division and you are trying to conflate these two separate units to advance your argument.

This piece was written by a conservative outlet, so take your argument up with them. They started off the article stating that when Fox came on the air, it was a breath of fresh air for conservatives but it has now devolved into a cesspool of noxious characters that lie to people like you for ratings, because they know you'll turn the channel otherwise. Your comment about Brett Baier just confirms it - you hate the few truth tellers at that network, because you're dumb.

 

[TigerGrowls]

If The Dominion Lawsuit Is A Slam Dunk, Why Are Media Lying?

What CNN and The New York Times are saying about Dominion's defamation case against Fox News is based on lies.

thefederalist.com

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

When riding a dead horse my first and last choice is to dismount

 

[WildBill_2007]

Big media would never lie or bend the truth to increase ratings. Can’t believe the TV didn’t tell the truth.

It’s amazing how people use Jan 6 and Trump like it’s life support. Wake up! America’s position in the world and American’s quality of life is significantly worse today because of the puppets “leading” today.

If you are still hating on Trump while ignoring our current mentally handicapped President, you are a victim of psychological warfare.

PS. The Dominion machines sucked in Arizona in the midterms too. We should be using scantrons and #2 pencils with wall sharpeners

 

[dpic73]

Big media would never lie or bend the truth to increase ratings. Can’t believe the TV didn’t tell the truth.

It’s amazing how people use Jan 6 and Trump like it’s life support. Wake up! America’s position in the world and American’s quality of life is significantly worse today because of the puppets “leading” today.

If you are still hating on Trump while ignoring our current mentally handicapped President, you are a victim of psychological warfare.

PS. The Dominion machines sucked in Arizona in the midterms too. We should be using scantrons and #2 pencils with wall sharpeners

We focus on Jan. 6th because it was the first time in our history that our OWN President fomented an attack against our OWN govt. with his insanely treasonous lies and you still want to re-elect that mother****er because gas prices were cheaper? Do you have no shame? And let's not forget the reason they were so cheap before Biden came in - no one was driving due to the pandemic!

You also need to acknowledge that when Trump came in, Obama left him a strong economy and all he did was cut taxes and regulations, but as we now know, that led to 25% of our debt and E. Palestine was the eye-opening example for why cutting regulations is a fools game. These things did NOT make our country better

Trump then turned over a flaming bag of shit to Biden with high unemployment and the pandemic at it's peak and you want to blame Biden for global inflation without giving him credit for the lowest unemployment since the 1950s? Puppet my ass...

Looks like we have another conspiracy theorist here moaning about voting machines that did not affect the elections in any way. Every vote still was counted so maybe you need to stfu and accept what the people chose instead of burying your head in the sand about the real reason for the losses you can't accept.

 

[dpic73]

 

[dpic73]

👀

 

[nytigerfan]

Months before Fox News, HBO aired voting machine allegations in a documentary. It wasn’t sued

A 2020 HBO documentary highlighted allegations that Dominion voting equipment is vulnerable to hacking.

justthenews.com

Dominion sues Fox News for $1.6B for reporting voting machine allegations, gives HBO a pass​

A 2020 HBO documentary highlighted allegations that Dominion voting equipment is vulnerable to hacking.

While Dominion Voting Systems is suing Fox News for $1.6 billion for defamation for reporting on allegations its voting machines were hacked and flipped election results in the 2020 presidential election, the company hasn't taken legal action against HBO for a 2020 documentary detailing the alleged vulnerabilities of its machines.

HBO's "Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America's Elections" includes interviews with politicians, cybersecurity experts and hackers discussing issues with voting machines. Released in March 2020, the documentary is still available to watch on HBO Max.

One of the hackers interviewed, Harri Hursti, successfully hacked a Diebold Election Systems voting machine in a 2005 test and changed the votes in one step without a trace, according to an April 2020 Forbes article about "Kill Chain."

A 2006 documentary called "Hacking Democracy," which showed Hursti's hack, aired on HBO multiple times, according to the 2006 film's website. The documentary was nominated for an Emmy award in 2006.

Before the documentary's premiere, Diebold asked HBO to pull "Hacking Democracy" from its schedule or, failing that, prominently run a 30-second disclaimer with each airing acknowledging that HBO had not verified the accuracy of the film's claims and referring viewers to a Diebold rebuttal on the HBO website. Diebold said Hursti's purported hack of one of its machines had been proved to be a "complete sham."

Diebold was bought by ES&S in 2009, and then Dominion in 2010.

"None of the vulnerabilities found by Hursti were ever fixed" after Dominion bought Diebold, wrote Forbes contributor Jody Westby, noting that those "same machines" were "planned for use in 20 states in the 2020 election."

The 2020 documentary covers various ways an election can be tampered with, including machine malfunction, changing votes and voter registration records, and causing issues with voter check-in equipment, according to the Forbes article.

According to Forbes' review of "Kill Chain," former Air Force cyber analyst Jake Stauffer, who tested ES&S and Dominion voting systems for the state of California, says in the film that he found that Dominion's Democracy Suite voting equipment has vulnerabilities that allow for off-line ballot tampering, denial of service attacks, and remote code execution. "How can a vendor sell a voting system with this many vulnerabilities?" he asks.

On Dominion's fact-check page, it cites a claim by the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency that there "is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised" in the 2020 election.

Despite the many allegations of Dominion machines' vulnerabilities leveled in HBO's "Kill Chain," Dominion never filed a lawsuit against HBO.

Dominion declined to comment.

Meanwhile, in Dominion's ongoing legal battle with Fox News, the media outlet and its parent company Fox Corporation this week filed their opposition briefs to Dominion's summary judgment motion, arguing the plaintiff is attempting to redefine the First Amendment.

File
PUBLIC VERSION - FC's Answering Brief in Opp to SMJ.pdf
File
PUBLIC VERSION - FNN's Answering Brief in Opp to SMJ [Final].pdf
"Dominion's lawsuit has always been more about what will generate headlines," Fox News said in a statement Monday, "than what can withstand legal and factual scrutiny, as illustrated by them now being forced to slash their fanciful damages demand by more than half a billion dollars after their own expert debunked its implausible claims.

"Their summary judgment motion took an extreme, unsupported view of defamation law that would prevent journalists from basic reporting and their efforts to publicly smear FOX for covering and commenting on allegations by a sitting President of the United States should be recognized for what it is: a blatant violation of the First Amendment."

Dominion filed its own opposition brief on Monday to a motion for summary judgment filed by Fox News, and responded to the media company's First Amendment claims in a statement.

File
2023 02 27 REDACTED Dominion's Answering Brief in Opp to SMJ.pdf
"Dominion is a strong believer in the First Amendment and its protections," according to Dominion's statement on Monday. "As long-settled law makes clear, the First Amendment does not shield broadcasters that knowingly or recklessly spread lies."

Meanwhile, another trump attorney admits to falsely claiming that she had evidence of election fraud. She was censured after signing a statement admitting that she lied.

As part of an agreement in the case, Ellis admits that multiple statements she made in late 2020 about the presidential election being stolen were “misrepresentations.”

Don't worry growls, you still have Mike Lindell out there fighting for your cause.

https://coloradonewsline.com/briefs/former-trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-censured-in-colorado-for-false-election-claims/

 

[flotiger]

We focus on Jan. 6th because it was the first time in our history that our OWN President fomented an attack against our OWN govt. with his insanely treasonous lies and you still want to re-elect that mother****er because gas prices were cheaper? Do you have no shame? And let's not forget the reason they were so cheap before Biden came in - no one was driving due to the pandemic!

You also need to acknowledge that when Trump came in, Obama left him a strong economy and all he did was cut taxes and regulations, but as we now know, that led to 25% of our debt and E. Palestine was the eye-opening example for why cutting regulations is a fools game. These things did NOT make our country better

Trump then turned over a flaming bag of shit to Biden with high unemployment and the pandemic at it's peak and you want to blame Biden for global inflation without giving him credit for the lowest unemployment since the 1950s? Puppet my ass...

Looks like we have another conspiracy theorist here moaning about voting machines that did not affect the elections in any way. Every vote still was counted so maybe you need to stfu and accept what the people chose instead of burying your head in the sand about the real reason for the losses you can't accept.

You used to try to reason with these brainwashed fact challenged anti-democratic nuts, but I sense you've tired of it. Lol. I appreciate your effort.....

 

[dpic73]

You used to try to reason with these brainwashed fact challenged anti-democratic nuts, but I sense you've tired of it. Lol. I appreciate your effort.....

It's true, I abhor disinformation and the ostriches that try to whitewash that madman's tenure.

Thank you

 

[TigerGrowls]

Meanwhile, another trump attorney admits to falsely claiming that she had evidence of election fraud. She was censured after signing a statement admitting that she lied.

As part of an agreement in the case, Ellis admits that multiple statements she made in late 2020 about the presidential election being stolen were “misrepresentations.”

Don't worry growls, you still have Mike Lindell out there fighting for your cause.

https://coloradonewsline.com/briefs/former-trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-censured-in-colorado-for-false-election-claims/

Coerced.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Meanwhile, another trump attorney admits to falsely claiming that she had evidence of election fraud. She was censured after signing a statement admitting that she lied.

As part of an agreement in the case, Ellis admits that multiple statements she made in late 2020 about the presidential election being stolen were “misrepresentations.”

Don't worry growls, you still have Mike Lindell out there fighting for your cause.

https://coloradonewsline.com/briefs/former-trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-censured-in-colorado-for-false-election-claims/

Mike Lindell is still doing well. He is doing a hell of a lot better than bed bath and beyond that started the push to remove his products. He obviously can afford the advertising fees on Fox and that cannot be cheap.

I bought one of his original my pillows years ago and didnt like it overall. I have never bought anything else from him.

 

[nytigerfan]

Mike Lindell is still doing well. He is doing a hell of a lot better than bed bath and beyond that started the push to remove his products. He obviously can afford the advertising fees on Fox and that cannot be cheap.

I bought one of his original my pillows years ago and didnt like it overall. I have never bought anything else from him.

He is a sideshow clown. Any time a reporter calls him on his bullshit he just starts yelling nonsense at them and talking about the evidence he has which for some reason he has not shared. Are you seeing a trend here? trump associates claim to have evidence that they cannot share, then later have to admit they were lying.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Coerced.

Yeah man... the Judge was OBVIOUSLY Deep State. How could he not be, right? No proof needed, since he sided against Trump. It's amazing that you think ANY decision against Trump is crooked... How many times have you blamed a jury, elected officials, judges (even Trump appointed ones) for a decision against Trump? Have you noticed a pattern?

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

He is a sideshow clown. Any time a reporter calls him on his bullshit he just starts yelling nonsense at them and talking about the evidence he has which for some reason he has not shared. Are you seeing a trend here? trump associates claim to have evidence that they cannot share, then later have to admit they were lying.

Can we insert Adam Schiff into this conversation

Go into SCIF and come out saying he had seen
the absolute proof Trump had colluded with Russia

Strangely enough none of this do called evidence EVER existed

I really just want people to make an attempt at being truthful and honest

Can’t one just TRY

Apparently many cannot

So comment on Adam Schiff

Guilty or Not Guilty of Gross Misinformation

 

[nytigerfan]

Can we insert Adam Schiff into this conversation

Go into SCIF and come out saying he had seen
the absolute proof Trump had colluded with Russia

Strangely enough none of this do called evidence EVER existed

I really just want people to make an attempt at being truthful and honest

Can’t one just TRY

Apparently many cannot

So comment on Adam Schiff

Guilty or Not Guilty of Gross Misinformation

For the record, i no longer read your posts as they are too long, rambling and nonsensical. I literally skip your posts in every thread I read. I know it sounds like I am being a jerk, but I am giving you the courtesy of letting you know so you will not waste your time responding to my posts, since I won’t read them.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Can we insert Adam Schiff into this conversation

Go into SCIF and come out saying he had seen
the absolute proof Trump had colluded with Russia

Strangely enough none of this do called evidence EVER existed

I really just want people to make an attempt at being truthful and honest

Can’t one just TRY

Apparently many cannot

So comment on Adam Schiff

Guilty or Not Guilty of Gross Misinformation

I agree that Schiff is a party hack for sure and what he says should ALWAYS be taken with pounds of salt.

Since this is a thread about the Fox/Dominion law suit, I'd mention that this is apples and oranges as far as the courts are concerned. For example, nothing FoxNew's people said about the election being stolen or not and whether they believed it or not, is actionable in court.

Only the parts where they talked about the Dominion Voting machines being part of that is. The libel law is very narrow on purpose and Dominion has to show tangible damages to their reputation and bottom line AND that FoxNews deliberately hurt their business. Morality has nothing to do with it.

IMHO, it shouldn't be difficult to show that Dominion was hurt by this on the bottom line. There's plenty of states that have stopped using their machines. The problem with this has ALWAYS been to show that the people who reported weren't acting in good faith (and were mistaken). That's why those text messages are so important as they pretty clearly show that the people in question didn't believe it and said it anyway. Again, the reason (ratings... whatever) doesn't matter... only the fact that they didn't believe and said it anyway and damaged Dominion.

I suspect that FoxNews will go "back to the well" in court and stipulate that the folks in question are not reporters, but are political pundits and that no reasonable person would believe them. It might work and it might not. It certainly did for Tucker in that earlier case.

 

[dpic73]

I agree that Schiff is a party hack for sure and what he says should ALWAYS be taken with pounds of salt.

Since this is a thread about the Fox/Dominion law suit, I'd mention that this is apples and oranges as far as the courts are concerned. For example, nothing FoxNew's people said about the election being stolen or not and whether they believed it or not, is actionable in court.

Only the parts where they talked about the Dominion Voting machines being part of that is. The libel law is very narrow on purpose and Dominion has to show tangible damages to their reputation and bottom line AND that FoxNews deliberately hurt their business. Morality has nothing to do with it.

IMHO, it shouldn't be difficult to show that Dominion was hurt by this on the bottom line. There's plenty of states that have stopped using their machines. The problem with this has ALWAYS been to show that the people who reported weren't acting in good faith (and were mistaken). That's why those text messages are so important as they pretty clearly show that the people in question didn't believe it and said it anyway. Again, the reason (ratings... whatever) doesn't matter... only the fact that they didn't believe and said it anyway and damaged Dominion.

I suspect that FoxNews will go "back to the well" in court and stipulate that the folks in question are not reporters, but are political pundits and that no reasonable person would believe them. It might work and it might not. It certainly did for Tucker in that earlier case.

Please don't engage Palmetto, who only wants to distract from the sins of his only source for news to whatabout Adam Schiff, who has absolutely nothing to do with this.

All the lawyer pundits say this is one of the most slam-dunk cases for defamation they've ever seen and interestingly enough, Fox has put forth no evidence to try and disprove the charges. This former US Attorney lays out the case pretty well in this aricle.

“Finally. Fox has conceded what it knew all along. The charges Fox broadcast against Dominion are false. Fox does not spend a word of its brief arguing the truth of any accused statement. Fox has produced no evidence—none, zero—supporting those lies. This concession should come as no surprise. Discovery into Fox has proven that from the top of the organization to the bottom, Fox always knew the absurdity of the Dominion ‘stolen election’ story. Now, having failed to put in any evidence to the contrary (because no such evidence exists), Fox has conceded the falsity of the Dominion allegations it broadcast."

Slander and Lies

More about the Dominion Voting Systems defamation case against Fox today, Wednesday. I know I’ve been writing about this case a lot, but it’s important. Tonight on his MSNBC show, Lawrence O’Donnell suggested that the evidence being released in the Dominion case is so damaging to Fox and some of...

joycevance.substack.com

 

[hopefultiger13]

Please don't engage Palmetto, who only wants to distract from the sins of his only source for news to whatabout Adam Schiff, who has absolutely nothing to do with this.

All the lawyer pundits say this is one of the most slam-dunk cases for defamation they've ever seen and interestingly enough, Fox has put forth no evidence to try and disprove the charges. This former US Attorney lays out the case pretty well in this aricle.

“Finally. Fox has conceded what it knew all along. The charges Fox broadcast against Dominion are false. Fox does not spend a word of its brief arguing the truth of any accused statement. Fox has produced no evidence—none, zero—supporting those lies. This concession should come as no surprise. Discovery into Fox has proven that from the top of the organization to the bottom, Fox always knew the absurdity of the Dominion ‘stolen election’ story. Now, having failed to put in any evidence to the contrary (because no such evidence exists), Fox has conceded the falsity of the Dominion allegations it broadcast."

Slander and Lies

More about the Dominion Voting Systems defamation case against Fox today, Wednesday. I know I’ve been writing about this case a lot, but it’s important. Tonight on his MSNBC show, Lawrence O’Donnell suggested that the evidence being released in the Dominion case is so damaging to Fox and some of...

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See, I completely disagree with this take. Probably b/c I'm an independent, not a lib. Schiff and Pelosi are party hacks for sure IMHO... just like plenty of folks on the other side. The point that I make is... That there's plenty to critique about the Dems. There's plenty to critique about the Republicans. However, BOTH sides think that they are better than their opponents. OK... that make sense to me. The part that DOES NOT make sense to me is that in this case, OP seems to be making the case that HIS SIDE (that he thinks is better) is justified in doing bad stuff b/c the other side does it. If you are BETTER then you don't do the bad stuff even if the other side does.

So my point is that sure Schiff did x. But what does that have to do with this?

 

[dpic73]

 

[WapPride]

i love how much Fox opinion show hosts hate their own viewers

 

[dpic73]

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i love how much Fox opinion show hosts hate their own viewers

 

[nytigerfan]

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i love how much Fox opinion show hosts hate their own viewers

There are handful of people on this board that I am sure are dumb cousin ****ers

 

[TigerGrowls]

Meanwhile, another trump attorney admits to falsely claiming that she had evidence of election fraud. She was censured after signing a statement admitting that she lied.

As part of an agreement in the case, Ellis admits that multiple statements she made in late 2020 about the presidential election being stolen were “misrepresentations.”

Don't worry growls, you still have Mike Lindell out there fighting for your cause.

https://coloradonewsline.com/briefs/former-trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-censured-in-colorado-for-false-election-claims/

 

[nytigerfan]

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Hey bud, I am not sure posting that is making the argument you think it is making. She is basically arguing that she wasnt lying b/c she did not realize that she was lying. In other words, the election fraud bullshit is still bullshit.

 

[yoshi121374]

Hey bud, I am not sure posting that is making the argument you think it is making. She is basically arguing that she wasnt lying b/c she did not realize that she was lying. In other words, the election fraud bullshit is still bullshit.

Nuance isn't his strong suit. I'm honestly not sure if he has a strong suit, but I'm sure his Mom loves him...

 

[TigerGrowls]

Hey bud, I am not sure posting that is making the argument you think it is making. She is basically arguing that she wasnt lying b/c she did not realize that she was lying. In other words, the election fraud bullshit is still bullshit.

I am not trying to interpret her meaning but just putting her tweet since its related.

 

[dpic73]

 

[dpic73]

Fox producer for Tucker Carlson says that company lawyers pushed her to lie in Dominion case

Abby Grossberg, who was a producer for hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson, made her claims in a sex discrimination lawsuit filed Monday.

fortune.com

 

[DW4_2016]

You are truly unique to the tribe

I commend you on maintaining and supporting positions I would never in my wildest imagination or my worse state of mind even begin to align myself with

please keep accusing me of being me

I love my whiteness , waist line at my age, conservative Christian beliefs, Political beliefs that equality beats equity , meritocracy beats entitlement, compassion and kindness beats liberal handouts without a path to independence, tough love is sometimes the best instead of that
unconditional without borders control freak thing

The good news is one day you are going to be just like me

Don’t live in fear of it happening

Embrace it as it creeps into every pore of your body

Yes one day you will be like me

My son and daughter said they would never be like me and I laughed as I told my mom and dad the same thing

And look at me now dead ringer

Watch that Progressive Commercial and let in the good as the bad flows out grasshopper LOL

So i guess now that there’s a lot more babies to be adopted you’ll be all over that? Compassion and kindness, ya know.

 

[hopefultiger13]

There are handful of people on this board that I am sure are dumb cousin ****ers

I'm actually confused by the statement. Are the people here dumb AND bang their cousins, or do they only bang their dumb cousins presumably not banging the smart ones? I guess the two things are not mutually exclusive, so they COULD BE dumb and their cousins could be dumb too.

I guess the smart thing to do would be to not bang your cousins...but then you can't listen to Tucker. What a world!

 

[dpic73]

Fox producer for Tucker Carlson says that company lawyers pushed her to lie in Dominion case

Abby Grossberg, who was a producer for hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson, made her claims in a sex discrimination lawsuit filed Monday.

fortune.com