Elon Musk
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Thinking this is funny aside, what are your thoughts on AI videos and ads that use someone’s likeness/voice/etc without their permission and are potentially not shared as “parody” but disinformation? Not asking as a one side thing.
You can make the argument for regulating fake ads that are not marked PARODY.
If it's marked PARODY it's hard to argue that it doesn't fall under freedom of speech. Unless we want to make mocking people illegal. Libs would love that.
Even for Parody I may argue using their actual likeness and voice is questionable. But I suppose it somewhat depends on whether the poster is making money off their parody maybe. Mostly, even if they say parody, others can very easily then share it themselves without parody, and boom its viral. I also think this is a both sides risk.
I wonder what type of democracy they are talking about?
A true democracy or a democracy of the elite?
It has nothing to do with sides and everything to do with the constitution. The Government can not take away your right to speak. If you want to mock, poke fun at etc, that has been established as fair game for centuries.
The government has no business regulating parody, art, religion, or any other type of speech. It's seems pretty clear cut to me.
I agree it doesn't have to do with sides. But when the discussion starts due to one side, it can be taken that way, so I was clarifying before it felt like a specific attack when it wasn't intended to be.
I also think you're somewhat simplifying the issue. I agree that someone in public life can be parodied. But I think using exact likeness/voice/etc is a little bit grayer line. I think it could also leak over into libel territory. Yes, if they make it clear it is parody (which something like SNL, or a skit is clear), it is one thing, but exact likeness is another. I just think its dangerous. Would be pretty easy to use AI to make a parody of Trump saying some plans to subvert the election in private to a reporter, have someone post it using Parody, then everyone else run away with it. They would be using his exact likeness, his exact voice (or close to both of those as much of public figures for both likeness/voice is out there). Just think it is dangerous and while if someone has the right to video someone else (say at an event, etc), I'm not sure they have the right to do with whatever else they want from there and to call it free speech.
Haha yeah but you just gotta understand what he really means by that.
Let's engage on the merits, shall we? You say ending democracy sounds a little suspect, and I agree. We'll all have to do our duty to make sure that goes well for everyone.
Am I doing it right @leetp?
Free Speech Absolutist. Parody falls within the confines of Free Speech. Don't over think it.
I think there is nuance as I consider my likeness/voice somewhat of a patent if you will. But I'm fine agreeing to disagree. Find the use of AI, the dangers, possibilities, etc interesting, and think there will need to be government intervention eventually. And finding that line will be important as I want free speech as well, but AI is tricky to me.
I thought the issue was it violated X's terms because it wasn't labeled as misleading?
Idk.
I would agree there is an argument to be made against fake videos not clearly labeled as AI.
I wonder if a block chain could be used to somehow authenticate videos in the future?
That was the reason for the firestorm. The original creator marked it as parody but Elon shared it without that label, which means he was violating his own terms and that makes him a giant hypocrite. What an asshole.
White Dudes for Harris X account is suspended with organizer saying Elon Musk ‘got scared’ by $4m fundraiser
White Dudes for Harris claims ‘scared’ Elon Musk suspended X account
‘Got @elonmusk scared,’ organizer Ross Morales Rocketto wrote on his personal X account along with a screenshot showing the account’s suspension
www.independent.co.uk
Right, which was my point above. When using someone’s exact likeness and voice through AI, feels like there should be some protection. If they are legally recorded doing something dumb, you can share all you want. And if a public figure and it’s a clear parody (SNL etc) agree it’s free speech as well.
Huh? When did I say that and were those my exact words? I do know a large percentage of normies have flocked to Threads because the board is filled with people every day saying they deleted Twitter because they can't take how absurd it's become. So you now have an echo chamber of alt-right Twitter Twats slapping each other on the ass over juvenile lib jokes. X is quickly becoming the Jerry Springer of social media websites.
How will those investment bankers ever survive. They will never get access to SpaceX or Xai or X.
Poor guys. Hope they are going to be OK.
RFK JR. GOES THERE:
He says @elonmusk should be a HERO to the Democratic party, but “somehow he became a villain because he was actually the only platform that would allow free speech on his platform.”
Kennedy says the reason why the Democrats now hates free speech is because the party “does not believe in the people.”
“If you don't believe in free speech, it means because you don't trust the people. You don't trust them to figure it out on their own, to have information on which they can base their ideas and their notions and their beliefs. And their votes... And really, it's exactly the opposite of democracy.”
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