You just can’t leave trump out of anything. It must really suck to hate someone to that degree.
Hospitalizations up over 30% & Positive test rate up to 21%
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I have posted this twice before, but this controversial French Nobel winner opined months ago the virus would weaken rapidly. It will be very interesting to see what happens to the strength of the vurus over the next few weeks. As time has passed, I am believing more and more that he has accurately assessed the situation.
Here are some interesting quotes from the article.
Montagnier predicted the imminent disappearance of the virus, because its supposedly artificial origin would be weakening it.
“One can do anything with nature, but if you make an artificial construction, it is unlikely to survive. Nature loves harmonious things; what is alien, like a virus coming from another virus, for example, is not well tolerated,” he said. For the scientist, the parts of the virus into which HIV was inserted are rapidly mutating, causing it to self-destruct.
https://www.theyucatantimes.com/202...laboratory-nobel-prize-winner-luc-montagnier/
i don’t think anyone wants the virus. But I don’t want our country to go under.
is that considered by the paranoid?
Had a few of those in Johnstone in '07.
My Dr client said basically this.
No. It’s bigger than this virus. The country and everything it stands for is at stake. Reasonable things should be done. Locking people down isn’t one of them. Nor is forcing businesses to close that aren’t considered non essential. There can be no trade off unfortunately because if we give a little they will take it all. That has been proven throughout history. It’s bigger than a damn virus!
Yeah and i feel like most things are open and people are obviously out doing their thing. Like was mentioned it’s not good for anyone. The economy is down, elderly are alone and high risk, people are still getting very sick and people are dying, suicides are up, abuse is up, mental illness is up, students uncertainty is an issue and there are plenty others. We are half assing each of those and just trying to get by at this point. I don’t know if and where u can decide who is more important and the others good luck. That’s causes a whole new set of mental problems and stress.
And if my liberty is the result of my death then let me die! Because without it we all might as well be dead. There’s a difference in living and existing. And WE will not live on our knees unless it’s praying to JESUS! So you can have your trade off.
Japan was able to shut down the virus with something like 800 deaths, without having to resort to lockdowns/shutdowns, because their population is willing to do things like wear masks, avoid gatherings. Meanwhile, we're just too stupid to take common sense measures- and think that just because we have a right to do something, we should do that thing.
I agree with this. Taiwan of all places only have had 7 deaths. But our politicians are too damn power hungry to do what Japan did
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I disagree. Power hungry might have resulted in massive testing, isolation of positive cases, and contact tracing, early on. Our leadership opted for the head in the sand approach because they didn't want to spook the stock market. And- the Japanese people have a much different response to their government telling them what to do.
Asians are also generally much healthier than us. Something like a 5% obesity rate. We are 45%
I have several Asians of different Nationalities as both clients and friends.
Not a one is "overweight" much less obese.
I have caught myself watching what Asians buy at the grocery store.
It is beyond belief the shit I see the fat ass Americans put in their grocery cart.
It is a good thing in a situation that requires collective action- like a public health crisis. Of course, the also had the benefit of a government that was prepared to handle the crisis. Whereas we did not.
Yep...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco-dan-fired-insurance-agency-face-mask/
If Chappell show could come back and do a white version of When keeping it real goes wrong... this would be number one.
The flatten the fear website is propaganda funded by the "job creators network"- which is not exactly the best source of information on virology... There is good evidence to suggest that the virus has mutated in ways that make it more highly transmissible, but not less potent. It's infecting a larger swath of the population now- including younger/healthier people, people are getting tested/seeking treatment earlier, and the treatments have gotten more effective as clinicians have more experience with it.
of all the countless things I've read on the virus, this Is a first.
do you have a source?
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Yes. Biggest reason. We know 90%+ of the deaths have underlying conditions. America is fat as shit which leads to diabetes and high blood pressure. No wonder Japan has far fewer deaths.
The Yucatan Times merely summarizes what he states. This may scratch your itch for more technical info. https://osf.io/d9e5g/
You can also see his interview on French TV on youtube.
Japan let’s no one in their country . China has had at leat 20 times the death we’ve had . You think they shut down their economy for 3000 deaths ? They had a 1000 deaths building their Olympic stadiums . They had like 50 die during the opening procession
Whether or not the virus is mutating to become less potent is an open question- but this article discusses research re: increased transmissibility.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2020/06/29/coronavirus-mutation-science/?arc404=true
Totally agree. We do nothing collectively about the 45%. It's always talked about but never actually addressed.
Americans can't accept eating like shit and not exercising is detrimental to the human body.
It's sad yet pisses me off.
Stems from parenting. Stop being lazy slobs and feeding your kids garbage.
Japan has fewer deaths (by several orders of magnitude) despite the fact that they are an older population (on average 10 years older than the US) and they have more mult-generational homes. What they do have is a collectivist mentality/orientation which really helps in a public health crisis that requires a collective response.
A naive reading of his post might make you think he wants people to be more careful about social distancing and to stop letting politics keep them from protecting the public health.
Probably.. its known that 4 million cell phone numbers went inactive during their lockdown and haven’t resumed use. Easily over a million died .
Veggies and lean fish vs 4 lbs of butter and chips is my guess
All good points but you can not overlook the obesity aspect. Huge contributing factor given US vs Japan co-morbidities.
I have heard the same thing from many health professionals. This is not taxing the healthcare system at the moment.
Oh for sure. I pointed out early on this virus was designed to target our population. The % of our country that's waddling around, 40+ pounds overweight, with hypertension, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, etc- is appalling and sad.
Heard a stat from a doc on Fox last nite when talking about whether or not kids should be back in school. Said there have been 25 kids less than 25 yrs old die from COVID, vs 100 under 25 deaths from the flu. Also said, data from a number of countries with open schools show absolutley no increase in transmission rates. Said children are not carriersnof the virus to others.
No idea how much of above is true, but im all for my kids being back in school. Not concerned a bit.
They believe that children under the age of 12 are less likely to transmit the virus simply because of lung capacity. But, as with so many aspects of this situation: we don't know for sure.
