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More interesting information. Wastewater shows significant Covid activity in Los Angeles. This tends to the best community spread indicator in the post testing era. Many who get it have mild symptoms, or symptoms that mimic other illnesses or allergies/hay fever. No way to know if he had a recent case or not without antibody testing. I'm guessing he got a Covid teat for current infection upon admission, as some hospitals continue to test for it. Hopefully they tested him for both antibodies or current infection. Either way, the wastewater data suggest that community spread is at the very least surging compared to previous months.

 
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Also, like the post suggest, Covid is not seasonal and is extremely variant driven. We've literally had surges at some point during the pandemic in every season. This is so much different than the flu, which follows a relatively predictable pattern.
 
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Biden Fauci and Dr. Jha..he works in white house now..all said ..at one time..you would not get covid if you got the jab. . Later it was about minimizing symptoms and hospital time...and slowing the spread..

The whole thing..from the beginning..seemed off to me..never paid them any attention..never got the shot and never got covid
 
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Hammerdawg.NEAR said:
I’m just gonna say it

You seem like you’re full of shít
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I literally don't give a single solitary **** what you think. I unfortunately know a ton about this, the data in particular and am a co-author on a published paper on COVID-19 in The Journal of Humanistic Psychology. As far as SC Covid testing, hospital, and other data goes, you'll not find many who are more educated on the subject than me. How many medical journals are you published in? By the way, did I mention I only have a high school education? I'm guessing you'll see that as a way to discredited me, but when people wanted data information, including professors and researchers at both Clemson and UofSC, they called or messaged me.
 
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jhallen said:
Biden Fauci and Dr. Ashi..he works in white house now..all said ..at one time..you would not get covid if you got the jab. . Later it was about minimizing symptoms and hospital time...and slowing the spread..

The whole thing..from the beginning..seemed off to me..never paid them any attention..never got the shot and never got covid
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Ditto. Same here.
 
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BDAZED said:
Who? Like Bill Gates? Fauci?
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nmerritt11 said:
It was said it made the symptoms less and less likely to get it but I know quite a few people who had it multiple times and worse after vaccine. Also the numbers did not fluctuate that much after until they stopped requiring testing

And lots tested positive with no symptoms prior to the mandatory testing being lifted. And a ton is false positives with rapid and a good amount with PCR.

There were entire batches that every round would test positive. Had a hospice account where every employee tested positive and that would have been impossible because some had just had it. Opened a new case and zero positives
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That sounds like a lot of Facebook experts talking........
 
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cjtiger300 said:
I literally don't give a single solitary **** what you think. I unfortunately know a ton about this, the data in particular and am a co-author on a published paper on COVID-19 in The Journal of Humanistic Psychology. As far as SC Covid testing, hospital, and other data goes, you'll not find many who are more educated on the subject than me. How many medical journals are you published in? By the way, did I mention I only have a high school education? I'm guessing you'll see that as a way to discredited me, but when people wanted data information, including professors and researchers at both Clemson and UofSC, they called or messaged me.
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Oh ok
 
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nmerritt11 said:
no clue if this has anything to do with James but this is correct and throughout the entire process, so called experts have been on both sides of the pros and cons. So when people say follow science, or trust the experts which expert or side of science are people supposed to follow. There were a ton out there stating that the vaccine was dangerous especially for the youth.

Is the growing rate of cardiac issues on younger folks related? I guess it depends on which expert or science project you read and believe
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Look at the ones not getting federal grants
 
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TigerLion06 said:
I've never seen a single expert say the vaccine prevented covid. I have ALWAYS seen them say it will lessen the effects of covid. The same example has been used over and over. WHEN you get covid, because they assumed everyone would eventually, it will be a much less damaging experience, symptoms less severe, and you would have a better chance at surviving covid. Vaccinated people were getting it from day one of the vaccine and the big story was always the difference in experiences of the vaccinated and those that were not. Never was it about saying you totally wouldn't get it if vaccinated.
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More interesting information. Wastewater shows significant Covid activity in Los Angeles. This tends to the best community spread indicator in the post testing era. Many who get it have mild symptoms, or symptoms that mimic other illnesses or allergies/hay fever. No way to know if he had a recent case or not without antibody testing. I'm guessing he got a Covid teat for current infection upon admission, as some hospitals continue to test for it. Hopefully they tested him for both antibodies or current infection. Either way, the wastewater data suggest that community spread is at the very least surging compared to previous months.

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The only people still getting covid are the vaccinated people lolz.

Anyone not vaccinated on here and get covid twice?
 
I make a heart joke about a kid that just had a cardiac event, and I'm NOT the biggest asshole in this thread.


I don't know if I'm impressed or scared.
 
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How did this become a debate on the effects of the vaccine shot? Ha, never mind. TWZ gonna TWZ.
 
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That is complete nonsense.
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How many times have you had covid and are you vaccinated?

I’m not vaccinated, I had covid December 21, never been sick since then with any bug.

And cdc doesn’t record vaccination status anymore for people getting covid… which is strange since it would be an easy way to prove the vaccine is prevent covid.
 
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JAMCRACKER99 said:
How did this become a debate on the effects of the vaccine shot? Ha, never mind. TWZ gonna TWZ.
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It's crazy. Don't get me wrong. Bronny could definitely have had this episode as a result of getting vacinnated. From what I've seen it is a clear and undisputed side effect of this vacinne. I'm open to correction if I'm wrong on this. Everything I've seen this isn't in dispute.

What bothers me is every time something like this happens, without finding out if the person was even vacinnated folks will make these wild claims. It's wild. Information out here is crazy. I get it. You can never know what's actually. Folks, including myself I guess, just believe the info that supports what they already believe. Our govt knows this and by design this keeps the masses fighting each other instead of attacking them together. As long as dems are in the white house they'll be protected by the democratic masses and when the republicans have the office their constituents protect them. The people seeking just the truth lose every time. Sad state to be in. Carry on fighting each other.
 
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How did this become a debate on the effects of the vaccine shot? Ha, never mind. TWZ gonna TWZ.
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How could it not become a debate? It's not normal for athletes in prime condition to drop of heart attacks. We should be asking questions. If it leads to the vax fine, and if it leads to something else that is fine also. But it should be discussed.
 
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How could it not become a debate? It's not normal for athletes in prime condition to drop of heart attacks. We should be asking questions. If it leads to the vax fine, and if it leads to something else that is fine also. But it should be discussed.
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You're right. It's not normal and very rare. It's not happening more tho. It's still rare The falsehood is it's happening more now. The discussions were being had, the questions you said we should be asking were in fact being asked prior to covid. Not because of a vacinne but because we didn't like that it was happening. Even tho it was still categorized as rare.
 
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False. Have a girl I work with who is unvaccinated who has had it 4 times. The fourth time she got it was last week.
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That makes the first person I’ve heard of. I only have 2 employees that are vaccinated, they are also my only 2 employees to get covid twice. One is done with boosters, others wife will make him stay boosted until he is in the ground. I look forward to seeing when he gets covid again.
 
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You're right. It's not normal and very rare. It's not happening more tho. It's still rare The falsehood is it's happening more now. The discussions were being had, the questions you said we should be asking were in fact being asked prior to covid. Not because of a vacinne but because we didn't like that it was happening. Even tho it was still categorized as rare.
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Well, forgive me, I don't know you. I'm not just going to take some dude from the internet's word. I saw with my own two eyes Damar Hamlin collapse on the field. Now Bronny collapsed in cardiac arrest on the court. More soccer players have also collapsed on the field. I'm sure there are many others that I don't know about.

The vaccine has many noted side effects of which heart conditions (myo / pero cardits sp?) are documented.

Since you say it's not happening more then you surely know how often it happened previously? Please tell. You also know how often it is happening now? Please tell. We are also in the midst of post vaccine era so events are still currently happening and thus impossible to know the final effects as they could still be occuring.

This all should be researched and debated. And anyone summarily dismissing any correlation is foolish and probably spouting political opinions. The data is still coming out, so hard to draw any conclusions one way or another.
 
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Casa_del_Tigre said:
How many times have you had covid and are you vaccinated?

I’m not vaccinated, I had covid December 21, never been sick since then with any bug.

And cdc doesn’t record vaccination status anymore for people getting covid… which is strange since it would be an easy way to prove the vaccine is prevent covid.
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Once, pre vaccination Nov 2020. Of course it's entirely possible I've had it multiple times since then but was asymptomatic or had extremely mild symptoms. You know, because of the vaccine. Also, have you ever been tested other than Dec 21? I find it hilarious when people say they never got it, but they never actually get tested. You know, the dumbass who says "it's just allergies". Guess what, it's not always just allergies.
 
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Well, forgive me, I don't know you. I'm not just going to take some dude from the internet's word. I saw with my own two eyes Damar Hamlin collapse on the field. Now Bronny collapsed in cardiac arrest on the court. More soccer players have also collapsed on the field. I'm sure there are many others that I don't know about.

The vaccine has many noted side effects of which heart conditions (myo / pero cardits sp?) are documented.

Since you say it's not happening more then you surely know how often it happened previously? Please tell. You also know how often it is happening now? Please tell. We are also in the midst of post vaccine era so events are still currently happening and thus impossible to know the final effects as they could still be occuring.

This all should be researched and debated. And anyone summarily dismissing any correlation is foolish and probably spouting political opinions. The data is still coming out, so hard to draw any conclusions one way or another.
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Correlation doesn't equal Causation.

The problem with discussing with you guys is that you have decided than any source that is Government/Healthcare based is false and you discount the info. You willingly ignore what the purpose of the VAERs site was for and instead use those reports as factual proof.

It's impossible to explain that this is well documented, but you don't care or believe. It's just not worth the discussion.

I had someone tell me last week ," You can't logic with someone who didn't come into the debate with logic."
 
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yoshi121374 said:
Correlation doesn't equal Causation.

The problem with discussing with you guys is that you have decided than any source that is Government/Healthcare based is false and you discount the info. You willingly ignore what the purpose of the VAERs site was for and instead use those reports as factual proof.

It's impossible to explain that this is well documented, but you don't care or believe. It's just not worth the discussion.

I had someone tell me last week ," You can't logic with someone who didn't come into the debate with logic."
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If its not worth the discussion then why did you post? Just stfu then

And if you trust what the government tells you after they have continually, purposefully, lied to you, that is your prerogative. But I don't trust people who continually lie to me. You do you.
 
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Well, forgive me, I don't know you. I'm not just going to take some dude from the internet's word. I saw with my own two eyes Damar Hamlin collapse on the field. Now Bronny collapsed in cardiac arrest on the court. More soccer players have also collapsed on the field. I'm sure there are many others that I don't know about.

The vaccine has many noted side effects of which heart conditions (myo / pero cardits sp?) are documented.

Since you say it's not happening more then you surely know how often it happened previously? Please tell. You also know how often it is happening now? Please tell. We are also in the midst of post vaccine era so events are still currently happening and thus impossible to know the final effects as they could still be occuring.

This all should be researched and debated. And anyone summarily dismissing any correlation is foolish and probably spouting political opinions. The data is still coming out, so hard to draw any conclusions one way or another.
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You just described confirmation bias pretty well. There is no evidence as of yet that it is more prevalent. You are just paying attention now and it's being reported on far more often because it gets clicks, ratings, and social media impressions from both sides of the argument. Also, to bring up Damar Hamlin is dumb. We know what happened to him and it was the blow to his chest that stopped his heart. Commotio Cordis, and that came straight from Damar Hamlin himself.
 
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Casa_del_Tigre said:
That makes the first person I’ve heard of. I only have 2 employees that are vaccinated, they are also my only 2 employees to get covid twice. One is done with boosters, others wife will make him stay boosted until he is in the ground. I look forward to seeing when he gets covid again.
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Wait, you want him to get Covid over and over again until he's in the ground? What an absolutely horrible thing to say. Wtf is wrong with you?
 
OleFastball said:
If its not worth the discussion then why did you post? Just stfu then

And if you trust what the government tells you after they have continually, purposefully, lied to you, that is your prerogative. But I don't trust people who continually lie to me. You do you.
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I trust the doctors I work with every single day. I know what they tell me, I know how much they care about their patients. What you guys don't seem to understand is that these "government people" that you love to demonize are just Americans just like us. They go to work,try to do a good job, and then have to deal with jackasses denigrating then every single day. Remind me what you do professionally that gives you such an insight into Medical care.

You literally tried to use Hamlin as an example of the vaccine causing heart problems. That killed any tiny bit of credibility you might have had.
 
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I trust the doctors I work with every single day. I know what they tell me, I know how much they care about their patients. What you guys don't seem to understand is that these "government people" that you love to demonize are just Americans just like us. They go to work,try to do a good job, and then have to deal with jackasses denigrating then every single day. Remind me what you do professionally that gives you such an insight into Medical care.

You used literally tried to use Hamlin and an example of the vaccine causing heart problems. That killed any tiny bit of credibility you might have had.
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SO it is worth the discussion now? You just cant stfu can you. It's not worth the discussion yet you spout off post after post.

If the "government people" don't want to be denigrated then they shouldn't lie. They should do a better job. If it makes one a jackass to call out liars, misinformation disseminators, and shitty job performers then I'll gladly be in that camp.

You will notice i have not said there is a correlation. I have said it should be researched and debated. Of course you are a communist so you don't like debate. Now sit down, because this "isn't worth the discussion to you".

(Now is when you make a multi paragraph post in a discussion that isn't worth it to you. go ahead)
 
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